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It just so happens that I know why. I know all about your delusional dreams and fantasies of a revolutionary war between Europe and America. We'd have to launch a nuke for that to happen. Guess what, you don't have any launch codes do you? Aw, so sorry.
News flash Svarog, it isn't going to happen. So take your communistic-Fidel Castro-loving-socialist-revolutionary-war-conspiracies and sit in your cozy Macedonian house while trying to start a war that will never happen. It isn't going to happen. Get that through your head.
Hahaa hahaaaa ahahhahahaha my sides are spliting...
`Bout time somebody told him that lol.
Anyway I don`t think that he wants a "revolutionary war between Europe and America".Not a real war.He probably wants
another superpower to make a balance and wage a second cold
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You think we're really advanced with missiles and stealth and all this military crap? We aren't. Our military is spread throughout the world.
Exactly.A USA military base in every corner of the world
.That`s one of the means of achieving a full control.It`s certainly better sitting at home and saying : Yeah we have two billion nuclar warheads and if you don`t behave we`ll turn your pathetic country into a cloud of subatomic particles.
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Svarog
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This reminds me of when Doomnezeu was saying that he had no reason to be proud of his country. I went and looked the names of several different kinds of heros that were from his country to show him that he had much to be proud of.
Exactly. And what a heroeic feat you did. I'm not surprised why you still don't see why both he and I laughed about it.
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You think we are strong because of our economy? So what. Our economy is run by it's people who don't seek world domination. They seek civil liberties and better lives for their children. You think we're really advanced with missiles and stealth and all this military crap?
The problem these nationalists that create this myth have is that they equate power with worth. Just if you're the most powerful, doesn't mean that you are better than others. And I think you fail to make the difference also, and that's why you're trying to prove that you're not the most powerful (which you're clearly wrong). You're waging your war on the wrong front, my friend (and with the wrong enemies)
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It just so happens that I know why. I know all about your delusional dreams and fantasies of a revolutionary war between Europe and America.
Oh my God! You uncovered my secret plans! You blew my cover! What will I do now?! 
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News flash Svarog, it isn't going to happen. So take your communistic-Fidel Castro-loving-socialist-revolutionary-war-conspiracies and sit in your cozy Macedonian house while trying to start a war that will never happen. It isn't going to happen. Get that through your head.
ROTFLMAO  Oh, that almost brought tears from laughing.
I'm sorry you don't see what I'm trying to say. I'm sorry you've got that hilarious impression. In fact why should I be sorry? It's not my fault you're having astral projectiuons. Talking about coziness and starting wars, look at the geographical location that's coming from. No wonder the blindness.
Ok, enough talking. Off to another forum to try start another war (this time with China). 
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hamsi128
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posted May 24, 2004 07:29 PM |
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News flash Svarog, it isn't going to happen. So take your communistic-Fidel Castro-loving-socialist-revolutionary-war-conspiracies and sit in your cozy Macedonian house while trying to start a war that will never happen. It isn't going to happen. Get that through your head.
LOL... consis as always ...
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Consis
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posted May 24, 2004 07:52 PM |
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Here's A Stunning Revelation(sic)
This will mostly be directed to Svarog but other anti-american people and united states-haters will enjoy this I'm sure of it.
The thread created by Wolfman and carried through to a very logical extent by Privatehudson has left much to be said. "The American-Roman Connection" is a good lesson to be learned. Svarog, you don't have to worry about a war with some global superpower from some European nation. Nobody has to worry about war with us. I live here and I can tell you bold-faced, with much blatent honesty, that this country is splitting itself in a pseudo-civil-war fashion. As we know, the great historic Romans never truly fell to another country or civilization. They fell to their own greed and the common barbarian uprisings. They also fell to a lack of communication technology, disease, and beaurocratic corruption. In today's world our technological problems are computer viruses. I'm not sure but I don't think a computer virus(War Games or not) can collapse an entire civilization.
We are left with the way of human nature. It is the darker side of human nature that will ultimately lead to a downfall of its own civilizations. The most powerful ultimately follow the philosophy of corrupting power. People donot like being made to feel less than others, be it sociologically, economically, or otherwise.
The events taking place in the Iraq war are not and will not be the downfall of the american "empire" as you and others call it. In order to bring down any "empire" there must either be the fictional meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, or a realistic combination of damning factors that in connection with one another would bring about a slow collapse. Empires do not simply vanish(except for Atlantis;P). They fade out while experiencing periods in Twilight years. If it is true that we americans are some sort of empire as so many believe, then we are no exception. We would be no different than any other empire nor would we be exempt from the sorts of reasons that caused them to fall. The only difference is that now we have a world of Men with a more destructive capability.
Empires and the men who rule them cannot escape their natures. Only a set of sound ideals rooted in sound logic with an extensive education of history can bring about a sound future. A future without war and empirical civilizations is the kind of future I look forward to. I believe we must stop thinking like countries and start thinking like "Natives of Terra Firma". We're all on the same planet. We must find a way to peacefully coexist.
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hamsi128
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posted May 24, 2004 08:07 PM |
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I believe we must stop thinking like countries and start thinking like "Natives of Terra Firma". We're all on the same planet. We must find a way to peacefully coexist.
Yes , you must find a way to peacefully coexist... you can start by stopping abusal power versus innocents in iraq 
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Celfious
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posted May 24, 2004 11:23 PM |
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you mean the tourtures hamsi? Your right. that should have not occoured, nor anything similar (including throwing a spit ball and pointing to adjacent iraqi prisioners)
Those people who ran the prision are bad, and i dont know if a God forgives them and what not.
Dont say USA did this though, please dont think we would do something like that. There are so many people here who are upset with what those people did! We wouldnt have done it because we have morals unlike the ONEcorrupt chain of command.
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posted May 24, 2004 11:49 PM |
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Agreed... anyone who thinks America as a whole did this is mistaken. It is all over our news and everyone I know is disgusted by it. We're just like every country, you know, with a few people who got problems.
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angelito
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posted May 24, 2004 11:56 PM |
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But isnīt exactly THAT the mistake which is allways done in history? To blame a whole country for bad mistakes made by several persons?
If you ask someone what comes first in his mind when hearing the word "germany", most answer is "Nazi"....
So why do you think itīs not like that when talking about america?
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Asmodean
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posted May 25, 2004 12:32 AM |
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Actually, no. I wouldn't think 'Nazis'.
I hope no Germans see that. Might be a bit insulting.
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angelito
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posted May 25, 2004 12:38 AM |
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I am german....and this is one of my most made experiences on the internet.
1 hour ago in the zone, a person entered and wrote something in german. FIRST answer (from a canadian) was : "Mein Fuehrer" !!
...anything more to say?
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Consis
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posted May 25, 2004 12:47 AM |
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I Have Something To 'Say'...
When I hear the word German I think about the beautiful Rhine river, fine pastries like german tortes, worldwide brewing companies, and some of the best made automobiles in the world. I also think about some of the most accomplished poets, scientists, and artists in the world's history like Bach, Beethoven, Einstein, Friedrich Nietzche(did I spell it right?), the play/opera known as "Ride of the Valkyrie"(Wagner), Boverian wine, austrian christmas music(Arnold loves it too), and many many other things.
I don't associate Nazism with Germany. I associate Nazis with Hitler and Himmler. Germany is one of the most beautiful places on earth to me. It's culture is rich with established icons and much much more.
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angelito
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posted May 25, 2004 12:57 AM |
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Thanks for these kind words consis
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posted May 25, 2004 01:02 AM |
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yea we're all different. If you say what you said there angelio, then your looking at everyhuman as compared to what a few internet people might say. (inet people is an example)
I've seen alot more hatred on the internet then I've seen around RL life. (Theres a place, the AOL forums I only saw once- most hatred I've ever seen from blabber mouth know it alls)
for the record I dont think your a hateful person angelito. I see hints of biast belife in a biast belife though i could be wrong.
When I think of the middle east, I think of alot of people who are in their own political world. I belive they want better than what they have but they dont want the US so present as they are. (i think we could be there nder obvious certain cercumstances but theres a need for revamping our entity. We are there to stop terrorists, and a few other misc reasons.
When I think of germany, I am reminded of my first kiss gf gretchen, greta. (not bad looking  ) And also the language and interesting culture.
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Asmodean
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posted May 25, 2004 01:16 AM |
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...anything more to say?
Yep - that guy was obviously an a**hole.
But I've been to Germany and know what the people are like, so I know your not all Nazis
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Sir_Stiven
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posted May 25, 2004 02:09 AM |
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lol some of the stupid posts in this thread keeps amazing me.
But what angelito says has much truth into it, dunno if its the fist thing people think but its sure one of them.
From the zone history i have two germans in particualar had a tendency to get on peoples nerves. And each time i saw a fight in zone about it the word "nazi" was at some level used.
I remember a post here in HC which dongio commented by making several disgusting nazi remarks in out of the blue.
While studying a few years ago we had a german exchange student with us. His name was Jens or something and he was ok, then one party at our student corridor the word gets out that we have a german there and one person immediately starts screaming a nazi greeting. And off course Jens stood behind him when he said it, if he had messed the guy up i would have understood him. Im really not pro fighting but there are some things you just dont say or do.
Its sad really.
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Wolfman
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posted May 25, 2004 02:14 AM |
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...there are some things you just dont say or do.
Wait a second, didn't I say something just like that in Attack Iraq a year ago maybe and I was yelled at about freedom of speech? Could have sworn that's what happened, is there a double standard?
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posted May 25, 2004 02:24 AM |
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wolfietosser, i havent read that thread. It doesnt appeal to me.
And if you wanna attend to a funeral dressed up like a hawaian hula hula dancer and scream "dipperdy doooooo" every other minute and claim freedom of speach then do so.
there are things as unwritten laws in this world.
Dont take the context out of my post just because you got some year old personal vendetta with someone, you take the thread off topic.
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Svarog
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posted May 25, 2004 02:36 AM |
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Consis, I see that we've dragged this too far off topic. I just have to say that I think the only thing Rome and USA have in common is that they were both powerful empires. Nothing more. So, I think that comparisson is ilogical and unfounded.
As things started going I'm glad someone there (celf, i think), mentioned the torturing and reminded us all what this thread is about (for American empire, you can read my post in Euro-US thread and reply so we can start a meaningful conversation there).
Angelito, mensch! Hoer auf zu diesen Leute uber Deutschland anzusprechen. Wir haben andre wichtige Themen fur Sprechen. Was meinst du uber dem Kreig in Iraq? Ich habe kein Wort von dir gehoert.
Aber English bitte! Ich spreche Deutch, nur damit ich den dummen Amerikanen zeige, dass wir in Europa mehr als eine Muttersprache sprechen koennen. (Ich muss nicht wiedrholen, dass du diesen Text nicht ubersetzen darfst, und besonders den "Amerikanen" Teil.)
You mentioned torturing, and said that we shouldn't assosate it with USA. And you made that silly analogy with Germany. Bah, shouldn't we have assosaited Germany with Nazism in the 40's? At least their government at the time?
Exactly. And that is why we may assosiate today the American government with torturing, unless some preventive measures are taken immediately that would put all the men responsible for the atrocity behind bars. (and I'm not talking only about ordinary soldiers here, but officers and generals as well.)
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Wolfman
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posted May 25, 2004 02:38 AM |
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No, it's completly on topic.
I know what you are saying, racial slurs shouldn't be used either, but they are. But with some things there is a double standard.
Even with racial slurs there is a double standard. Saying "nazi" in my opinion, is not that bad compared to other things.
There is a double standard with the prisoner abuses too. In most of the arab countries that are so angry, their governments do the same things to their prisoners, sometimes worse. I don't agree with the abuses, it's digusting, but in perspective it's almost blown out of proportion in some respects.
It's not everyone in the U.S. doing these things, it's very few. Of course there is no one in the U.S. doing these things, it's in Iraq. But seriously, it's like saying everyone in Germany was for the Nazis, and that's incorrect. I can't help it if there is a double standard, I try not to have a double standard, or act hypocriticaly, but I don't have such power over others. There is a double standard that is very obvious.
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posted May 25, 2004 03:36 AM |
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Bah, shouldn't we have assosaited Germany with Nazism in the 40's? At least their government at the time?
Not even the slightest bit associated. I personally hold all men accountable for their own actions. This country, the german people, they had just been ravaged by war the same as France, Spain, and Brittain. Their economy was in a shambles, a great portion of their army was killed as was on all sides of the first world war. Never tell me to associate Hitler with the people of Germany. It was the people who struggled through poverty and the deaths of millions! It was the german people whose spirit and strong work ethic gave them hope during one of the most trying times in their country's history! Life was hard, they were badly wounded from the first war, and their economy was failing. Hitler could have been one of many courageous men to rally their confidence and bring the entire country together to fight the poverty and hardships of this time but no! He was selfish! He was a racist, a fascist, and a madman. Never tell me that Nazis were ever germans! No, they weren't to me. They were the men and women who willingly chose to follow a madman. Those criminals were defeated and the true germans were left alive to rebuild their great country from the rubble of Hitler's madness. These were the people we airlifted food to during the cold war when the wall was erected. These were the people who continued to amaze the world with their enginuity years after the fall of the Nazis. These were the true germans and the world at large knows this. I don't even have to say it but I do because I am proud of those people. They have a great spirit and much strength as a country.
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And that is why we may assosiate today the American government with torturing, unless some preventive measures are taken immediately that would put all the men responsible for the atrocity behind bars.
But, this is happening. Why would you not think so? We are prosecuting each soldier and officer responsible. They will pay a heavy price for their lack of discipline. Surely you know this to be true?
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