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Sir_Stiven
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posted October 27, 2004 10:12 PM |
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foobum, its good in each tough fight using the same strategy in beginning where you can tease an opponent stack to your slow units first round. If you face fast creatures, do this and if you got a good enough powerstack you kill of one stack right ahead.
Except that it makes you reach shooters earlier which is really important to save units. Especially if you got a fast unit which can block the shooters first battleround.
Thing is, when we play this game we usually take as many fights as possible as long as they are reasonable in the starting days.
Meaning, we try to expand and level up fast.
Something tells me you dont share this view of the game, but when you lose your n00bish habits and might play a game or ten online you will realise that speed is basically everything in this game.
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Jebus
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted October 27, 2004 11:11 PM |
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Something tells me you dont share this view of the game, but when you lose your n00bish habits and might play a game or ten online you will realise that speed is basically everything in this game.
And here comes the "noobie" jokes!!!
I've been playing for years (so has Conan) and I'd never seen the utility of Tactics until chatting on HC. The races I tend to play are you usually pretty quick and if not there are artifacts for that! I'd prefer to just use exp haste and use the skill slot for something more usefull!!!
(but that's a whole different issue)
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Conan
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posted October 28, 2004 02:01 AM |
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Edited By: Conan on 27 Oct 2004
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foobum, something tells me you dont share this view of the game, but when you lose your n00bish habits and might play a game or ten online you will realise that speed is basically everything in this game.
1) I already realize speed is everything in the game
2) I do share this view of the game, just asking question in a humble way, not like "all-knowing" you.
3) I only post here to discuss things with people that I know are better than me (angelito)
4) Calling someone a n00b makes you feel just great, doesn't it? I mean, you must be sooooooo much better, Mr. I eat canadians for breakfast! LOL
5) foobum.... right. How old are you again!?
LMAO @ you!
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sirzapdos
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posted October 28, 2004 06:39 AM |
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I'd wager Stiven is one of the better H3 players on this website.
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angelito
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posted October 28, 2004 03:10 PM |
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I'd wager Stiven is one of the better H3 players on this website.
For sure....but he loses his patience a bit too early when he meets someone who doesnīt play at the same (high) level as he plays..
But the reason for this could be, that he answers the nOOb questions or has to read the nOOb tactics (capitol before dwellings, exp. points out of chests, Solmyr is da bomb, i take all 4 magic skills on my main, 2 heroes are enough........and so on....) pretty much longer than i do, coz he is member on this site for 3 years i think.......so, forgive him his rudeness...in real life he is a nice guy (what i have read in swedish newspapers.. )
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Conan
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posted October 28, 2004 06:54 PM |
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I'd wager Stiven is one of the better H3 players on this website.
I'm sure he is, and that was never part of my comments. In fact, I'm sure he's even better than me. But his attitude is far less than desirable.
After I posted my message, I reasearched his threads and his comments. It seems he's always trash talking n00bs and has even ben called a n00b hunter. What is the point for this kind of behavior? I thought this was a site for n00bs to ask questions for other more skilled player, witch is exactly what I am trying to do with angelito. What good is this forum if it is only for the "elite" of online HoMM?
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kwahraps
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posted October 28, 2004 07:36 PM |
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>>>I've been playing for years (so has Conan) and I'd never seen the utility of Tactics until chatting on HC. The races I tend to play are you usually pretty quick and if not there are artifacts for that! I'd prefer to just use exp haste and use the skill slot for something more usefull!!!
Conversely, if you have tactics, you can have a positional advantage, and instead of having to waste a spell on haste to get such an advantage, you can cast something else. What happens if your opponent goes before you with dragons and casts mass slow? Sure, your mass haste will counter that, but how many moves do they get before you can go? How much damage is done before you even get to go? Tactics allows you to minimize damage taken to valuable units and also allows you more maneuvering on the battlefield.
If you have flyers, tactics gets you that much closer to blocking shooters or getting across castle walls. Tactics lets you protect precious shooters.
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csarmi
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posted October 29, 2004 09:03 AM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 29 Oct 2004
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Conan, reading your replies makes me feel I wanna run far far away and tun and cry amd run and shout and run... I would run into the door actually.
After some of your questions (not just the questions, the way you are asking them, the way you use quoting) it's not so easy to stay calm and respond politely. Don't be surprised if a Vet gets fed up once and calls you noob, which is a pointless and bad thing, but maybe allows him not to blow up.
These are my feelings only and I did not call you names, so please do not take it as a flame or an insult - think about it instead.
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Defreni
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posted October 29, 2004 10:03 AM |
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Hehee Stiven, I remember when you where a noob, ya drunk swede
Regarding chaining, I think I remember some threads on the TOH board about said subject. Just remember that HoMM3 tactics in multiplayer is alot different than campaign and singlescenario tactics against the comp.
Only thing is, that if you utilize multiplayer strategies against comp, it pretty quick becomes extremely boring. I did that with my fiancee which I met after I quit TOH. She had been playing against the comp for years, and wanted me to show her some tactics
Regards
Defreni
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Conan
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posted October 29, 2004 03:27 PM |
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After some of your questions (not just the questions, the way you are asking them, the way you use quoting) it's not so easy to stay calm and respond politely. Don't be surprised if a Vet gets fed up once and calls you noob, which is a pointless and bad thing, but maybe allows him not to blow up.
Simply put, you, or any other vet, don't have to respond. Heck, they don't even have to read it if it makes them act this way.
But thanks for the input, if I was trying to be clear with those quotes and that drove you guys crazy (oddly enough), then I'll stop!
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csarmi
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posted October 29, 2004 04:28 PM |
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Edited By: csarmi on 29 Oct 2004
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I am not even a vet (maybe expert of the game though). I jut thought I could help you to find out why you were called names (though it's not suprising to see Stiven act like this). I did not answer your questions. I did not try to.
But you certainly pose them in a bad way.
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Surely i only place the pikeman on the TOP row to the very right to make the Behemot able to reach it, not the 4 other stacks.
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That is during the free movement from the tactics phase?
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If u place the other 4 stacks out of range, but near to the bottom of the field, the other Behemots will go in that direction.
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This is during the first round?"
This is the post driving me crazy. Simply put, it sounds like you do not even try for yourself.
I give you an advice. Use the map editor, put up scenarios you would like to test for yourself (because it's not clear for you; OR because someone has given you an advice and you are not sure how it does work) - for example place a red dragon dwelling on the map, place a red hero with advanced tactics, 113 troglodytes, 5 evil eyes, 7 harpies and a ballista, another hero (so that you can remove your ballista and some creatures on need) and try to win the fight in different ways.
You can enrich the map with new features when you want to test new things or have several maps with well-chosen names.
Test it for yourself and if something is still not clear, come back and ask.
What about it?
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Conan
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posted October 29, 2004 04:36 PM |
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Edited By: Conan on 29 Oct 2004
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Thanks. What I meant in my comments about replying to my questions was not directed at you; you never did loose your temper over a way a question was asked.
In any case, csarmi, every time I see a post form you I read it carefully.
BTW, we don't live in the same time zone because I can't find the post to witch you are referring to. But no matter. I ain't gonna post much after I see the way the people interact on this board. There's plenty of other forum to go dig up info.
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Your life as it has been is over. From this time forward, you will service.... us. - Star Trek TNG
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angelito
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posted October 29, 2004 05:01 PM |
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Conan....stay cool...donīt feel offended by some posts.
If u ask a question, then wait until u get an answer which helps ya....donīt give a dime on the tosser answers....on other forums u will find other tossers...so nothing would change finally.
Give it a try...normaly it is a nice place here...
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Shiva
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posted October 29, 2004 10:29 PM |
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So let me see, this thread is about chaining your ego to about how much you can brag who is better? Really, who cares guys. If you have experience and someone asks a question, answer if you are so kind. However, lording it over people comes across quite sort of smelly.
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csarmi
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posted October 29, 2004 10:31 PM |
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Jebus
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posted October 29, 2004 11:06 PM |
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Edited By: Jebus on 29 Oct 2004
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As the author of this thread, it's nice to see that an innocent question could inspire such an all out attack on members... I was actually trying to get some info from those who enjoy sharing their experiences and I do apologize to those who have dealt with these topics over and over again.... I had in my thread "noobies questions VS vets patience" suggested some ideas on how to deal with the ongoing saga of repetitious questions.
I had also in a previous posting mentioned how it becomes difficult to interpret some people's posts due to the fact that we come from all over the world and sentence structure and idea development can differ from one culture to the next. Communication skills can be a handycap when trying verbally to express one's views...
We should always try to take the ideas expressed in a positive light and ignore anything that we may perceive as negative. I have learnt quickly that some are short tempered (Conan, a good friend of mine, is one of them) and others have language barriers to deal with... We should learn to accept this to benefit from the ideas of those who, new or old, wish to share their ideas...
I continue to appreciate the advise and comments for members like Rat and Angelito and look forward to one day learning from them first hand online. I would also ask that if you feel a need to blast members in my thread, that you resist the temptation and instead start your own discussion instead of poisoning mine.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted October 30, 2004 12:12 AM |
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as stated soon to be 10 times now, if you got a question that hasnt been asked before or you need advice on a particular thing feel free to ask and ill and many others will answer.
It is when you dont listen to the advice given and start arguing n00bish matters that you will get called a..n00b.
So advice: if you dont want to be called a n00b - stop making n00bish statements.
example:
Which is best to take from chests - gold or exp? *good question*
I take exp from chests and im the greatest! *n00bish statement*
What is the best extra building and why? *good question*
wall of knowledge is the best building because it gives solmyr extra knowledge!!! *n00bish statement*
What is the best 2ndary skills? *good question*
The best hero got wisdom, mystiscm, intelligence, all 4 magic schools and eagle eye!!! *n00bish statement*
See the difference? the good questions gets answers unless having been discussed 10 times over already, because its your responsibility to learn if the topic has been discussed earlier first instead of making threads every time you think of something new.
Making n00bish comments only gives you a n00b label..logical?
And i dont have no boss csarmi, im a student... the reason i call people n00bs is (which you as everyone else could have learned through a good question) that they try to learn us vets about a game 99% of em only have played on singleplayer instead of listen to the actual given advice.
As explained above.. n00bish behaviour - n00bish label... is as simple as that
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Jebus
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted October 30, 2004 12:59 AM |
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Sir_Stiven,
I'm not sure if you were typing your reply instead of reading mine but I feel that you've missed my intent.
I appreciate hearing people's opinions but the fact is my thread was not intended to argue over noobies and vets. For that feel free in joining my thread entitled "noobies questions VS vets patience".
My last posting was clearly to end the argument that has overtaken my thread in regards to tactics and chaining. If you would like to coment on those issues, please feel free to, otherwise I would appreciate it if the argument ceased. One way to differentiate a noob and a vet is most vets know when to quit and a noob would not. Maybe in this case it's because you don't have the maturity to let it go. I hope for your sake that this is not the case. I was once adament about arguing my point too but my piece of advise to you would be to pick your battles and make sure that your arguments are well placed.
If you wish to discuss certain issues, you can make a thread to address your concerns.
I hope to hear more of your strategies and experiences in the future.
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Gunnar
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posted October 30, 2004 04:00 AM |
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Excelent reply!!
Well, well. It seems that these arguments simply cannot be avoied. You see, everibody is trying to show how great he/she is that the main point of this quote is forgotten. Jebus, thereīs nothing you can do to prevent this (most unfortunately), so the best thing to do is to try to take out the good things about posts, nomatter if they sound agressive, or perhaps offensive. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I liked the way you answered the quotes(so...respectful).
but going back to the origin of this quote, iīll give you my answer:
Tatics is a great skill that comes handy on any part of the game, as youīll gain considerable strategical ventage. Specially effective when playing "versatile" alignments, (such as Dungeon) you will be able to choose the way to face a battle, and use your strenghs more efficiently, as well as take advantage of your opponentīs weaknesses.
sorry for bad english, as my first language is spanish(Iīm from argentina. Know were that is?)
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Shiva
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posted October 30, 2004 04:19 AM |
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well said Jebus
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