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posted July 12, 2005 05:07 AM |
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yea im still doing the dungeon, just thinking of ideas about the creatures and how they came and left
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Why did the Undead drop the mummies in favor of the Wraiths
i think i might do this one also but lots of ppl like the undead town. so if u want to do it IM so i dont do it
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posted July 12, 2005 11:29 AM |
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Why did the Undead drop the mummies in favor of the Wraiths
because traveling to egypt all the time just to get mummies and then resurrect them was alot harder than just bringing back dead souls in there own graveyards, DUH
Btw i was just joking, but it would be easier, i try to base my answer on as much historical real mythology and logic as possible.
(i am the bestest thread reviver i have ever personally met )
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a_rebirthing...
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posted July 12, 2005 02:19 PM |
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Why did the Undead drop the mummies in favor of the Wraiths?
well u see the Great Necromancers felt that mummies had a greater purpose than serving in thier undead armies so the great liches held council. they decided that mummies would serve in pyramids all over Erathia instead of in the in the towns of the dead. this was ofcourse because these pyramids held ancient secrets of long forgotten spells which necromancers didnt want to be exposed. some armies conquered the pyramids and learned ancient secrets.
but the pyramids still swarm with the undead mummies guarding the secrets that have already been unleashed upon the world not ready to recieve them.
wraiths were found after they were discovered. this occured when mummies were being escorted to pyramids and on the way wraiths attack the adventuring party. Sandro, who was on the trip, cast control undead and the wraiths have been serving the undead army ever since
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posted July 12, 2005 02:41 PM |
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Sandro, who was on the trip, cast control undead and the wraiths have been serving the undead army ever since
I thought that was kinda funny. I imagined Sandro reaching into his cloak and pulling out a remote control with a "Control Undead" label on it. He switches the device on and all the ghosts are drawn to him. I need some sleep. 
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Possible Fate of Peasants:
The life of a peasant is often far from pleasant. The Succession Wars brought much misfortune to the common folk of Enroth. The need for troops was so great among the various lords that a large percentage of the local peasantry was conscripted into their armies. Because of limited resources, most peasant conscripts were forced to salvage the area for whatever weapons they could find. Often weilding crude farm tools in battle, innumerable armor-less commoners marched off to their deaths. The vast majority of them were inexperienced at combat, and their reluctance to reach the front lines made that fact more evident. Several thousand peasants died by the week, yet the desperate need for more troops made urgent the drafting of thousands more.
While these things went on in Enroth, the populace of the kingdom of Erathia thrived. Under no threat of war, the commoners were free to pursue their daily jobs and live with their families. Peasants who entered military service received training funded by the crown itself. With time and resources going toward producing well-trained soldiers, the military grew very strong. Sturdy pikemen and crossbowmen formed the backbone of the standard troops. Erathia's cavalry was said to be the finest in all the lands, even surpassing Enroth's best knights. The peasants were safe for the time being, at least.
The Restoration Wars dealt Erathia a heavy blow, much like what had happened to the feudal lords of Enroth years earlier. Even though Queen Catherine was successful in driving off her enemies, a significant portion of her country lay in ruins. During the long months of fighting, peasants were forced to abandon their homes and go into hiding. When the war was over, many of the homeless citizens took on renegade lifestyles in order to survive. Bitter from the misfortune they've suffered, the peasants refused to return to serve Erathia unless they were diplomatically swayed to do so.
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posted July 12, 2005 11:21 PM |
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maybe the crystals for the cyclops are used to fuel their fiery eye beams, maybe they eat them to fuel it and some how the crystals multiply themselves. lol, its just a thought.
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mr_niceguy
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posted July 13, 2005 10:53 AM |
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cyclops shoot lasers? i thought they threw rocks, but i havent played in a while, i could be wrong
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guitarguy
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posted July 13, 2005 11:24 AM |
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cyclops shoot lasers? i thought they threw rocks, but i havent played in a while, i could be wrong
In Heroes 1 and 2, the Cyclops had a laser eye attack. That was way back when it was the Barbarians' top creature, couldn't be upgraded, and lived in Pyramids. They also growled a lot and made scratchy footsteps back then.
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posted July 13, 2005 11:38 AM |
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i see, so generally the 3do has(had) a HORRIBLE sense of historical accuracy
so you know what, rather than writing stories, i'll make scenarios based on 3do's somewhat bad research into mythology, so you people can write your crazy stories
1. Why does a cyclops shoot lasers?
2. How can you hire a pegasus, in greek (or was it roman) mythology there is only ONE pegaus, how can you hire more than one pegasus if there is only ONE?
3. Monks are either peaceful people who live in poverty and devote thier life to god (christian/western style) or people with incredible skills in martial arts (asian/eastern style) so my question is HOW THE HELL DOES A MONK DO A HADOKEN/KAMEHAMEHA!!?
4. There is only one ceberi as well, how can you make more than one?
5. if they can hire genies, why dont they just wish that they win the battle, THEY HAVE GENIES JUST WISH FOR VICTORY, why wouldnt they just do that?
6. beholders are meant to fly, why dont they fly?
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guitarguy
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posted July 13, 2005 12:32 PM |
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Those are some pretty not-too-slack questions you got there. The easiest way to clear up the inconsistency of Cyclops attacks is probably to say that Enrothian breeds are a whole seperate brand from the Erathian ones.
In Enroth, the Cyclops are terrible at throwing boulders but are very good at performing "eye-laser surgery" on enemies' bodies.  In Erathia, the Cyclops have good arms for hurling things but are too near-sighted to effectively zap anything.
Ugh, outta ideas for now. 
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posted July 13, 2005 01:01 PM |
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HAHA eye laser surgery, i'll have to use that the next time i use my eye lasers
"dont worry this eye laser surgery is on me MWHAHAHAHA"
well any who i also realised cerberus is the gaurdian of the underworld, how can they make more than one cerberus and how did they get a cerberus away from the underworld. CERBERUS HAS A JOB AND DOESNT HAVE TIME TO BE WORRYING ABOUT THE QUARRELS OF MERE MORTALS, so how did they get the legendary 3 headed dog to fight for them?
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posted July 13, 2005 01:21 PM |
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yea cyclops shoot a laser from thier eyes. its very strong. i think its a breath attack
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There is only one ceberi as well, how can you make more than one?
lol, too much 'arry potter for u
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The dungeon
*the old man stands and all listen with concentration*
i have told u the secrets that man and beast alike have not and need not know about the Tower and Fortress and their rise, but like any wise man i enjoy telling a good story. here is how the "Dungeon" came about from their warlock masters
it all came about when warlocks became overlords and their armies turned, in their eyes, into underlings. many overlords appeared in Nighon claiming to be the best and offering their services to Great Warlocks and Overlords.
One such person was the young female Mutare. Mutare was a particularly eye catching young female. she had the ability, which no other posses, to get along and increase the performance of dragons under her command. this unique talent. she was soon leading the army of the underground into battle to capture adversaries lands.
however, Mutare decided that before she undertook this task and mobilized forces she should and would change what she had.
centaurs had already left for a more peaceful life in the forest. they were unable to access the main armory which held their bows before they left so they made do with spears they found in a smaller armory. they left and were heard of next by spies reporting them in enemy ranks but thats another story.
next to depart were gargoyles. they entered the underground only to turn solid and unable to act. they were dismissed by Mutare and they left for the snowy lands. we already know what happened with them.
then the gryphons left and were tamed by Royal Knights of Queen Catherine. They soon were fighting for good and were most royal beasts.
hydras then left deciding against staying with thier evil masters as many had done already. they went to thier original lands of the swamp and became strong enough to kill dragons. some evolved into chaos hydras that are uncontrolable by just any general but are extremely strong. some even say that they are stronger than dragons but thats just the views of that guy and that girl.
the last and most powerful creature to turn against thier warlock masters were the green dragons. they heard about the centaur friends finding a happier place among other creatures and decided to follow. they then joined the so called "Rampart" and found a new habitation among the cliffs.
Mutare was put in a tough situation at this time and was forced to make decisions that would change the Dungeon forever.
first to come were troglodytes. they were found wandering around Nighon led by Shakti. Shakti was seized and was brought before Mutare. Mutare made a proposition. Mutare asked Shakti to join her forces and she would allow Shakti to become an overlord. both sides accepted. Mutare needed the forces and Shakti needed a home. that home turned out to be mushroom rings all over, or shall i say under, Erathia. the troglodytes ofcourse were happy in the dark underground since they had no need for light
harpies was another addition to the ever growing Dungeon. the harpies learned from thier genie neighbours and started to make thier services available. harpies were discovered by spies. the spies reported harpies led by several harpy queens trying to join a town. the harpies were followed and were seen in the territory of the fortress and volcanic lands trying to offer fealty to the first leader willing to accept it. a messenger was sent out after word was recieve that the harpies had left the lava covered lands offering Mutare as the harpies new leader. a few days later the harpies contructed themselves a loft in the main dungeon town and were content.
Mutare then sent out scouts from her newly contructed palace at nighon with instuctions to find and bring any monsters without a leader. a messeneger buy the name of Ajit came back before the moon awoke with news of a homeless creature in the tunnels of nighon. the creatures were beholders. they were inspected and found to be ranged creatures aswell as melee if need be. they were considerably good in both respects and were given thier own little spot in the dungeon. ajit was promoted to overlord and from then on specalized in beholders.
another scout of harpy origin, lorelei, was sent out to find creatures aswell. she came back with some medusae. the medusae were much like the harpies and were concerned that if they didnt sign up with a faction, they would be attacked. they had the ability to stone which Mutare learned after the ability was shown to him by the head medusa at a soldier. but Mutare thought that the speed at which they moved combined with thier imprssive gift worked well together. Mutare then got the best sharpshooters from Erathia to teach the medusau how to fire a bow. the bows that the centaurs left behind were perfect and the medusae quickly adapted to thier new projectile weapon.
and then we come to the powerful Minataurs of the never ending labyrinth. these were already apart of the towns and decided not to leave but to stay an conquer with thier overlords. they wield large axes, with the minataur kings having double edged axes at thier hands. the kings wear a lustrous piece of armour that adds protection to match thier already great attack.
the origin is unknown even to me but i do know how they inducted into the Dungeon. it was a normal day and Mutare was out personally exploring the land around nighon when she came to a lair. the bones outside and in the cavern gave no clue to its occupants. Mutare sent in a soldier who came back out screaming and was paralyzed before he could speak. the medusae accompanying Mutare went out and hunted a few wild boar n the area and layed them outside of the cave. the monsters inside quickly came to the fresh meat an snacked away. they were orange coloured lions with mutated features wings and a tail. soon after another creature similar to the first made its exit from the darkness. this one was red and looked more vicious then the original creature. Mutare had seen nothing like it and called out anyone who knows how to control a beast that was a mutated lion, as she put it, to come to nighon. some came but they were fakers. then a female scholar called Synca came forth. she claimed to know how to control the beast and put her words into action. she communicated with the orange beasts she called manticores. she called the red ones scorpicores. she told the beasts something and the manticores were soon fighting for Mutare. Synca was then made an overlord and is now in control of the section of land south of Nighon where manticores are very common.
and that brings us to the dragons. ofcourse i already explained the green dragon leaving but what about the dragons still there. well Mutare realized that there was still numerous red dragons, enough for thier numbers to be effective. so Mutare was able to convince the dragons that she was the most powerful leader in all of Erathia. the dragons didnt care for this so mutare, like and smart dragonologist would, gave the dragons thier very own cave full of things that glittered. the dragons stayed and Mutare was happy. she even taught the black dragons that titans are evil and so black dragons do more damage to those they think are evil.
well thats all for today, come back later and i will reveal whatever u ask
*the old man leaves the room and heads towards the beds*
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angelito
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posted July 13, 2005 01:33 PM |
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I think we should be carefull not to go too deep into logical explanations. This is a fantasy game, creatures are leaned on more than one authority.
If u start asking questions like that, u will never find an end..
Where does the cyclop get his new rock from when he has thrown the one he had? (for example on a boat-fight)
How can a fireelemental travel on a boat without burning the planks?
Why did the cyclop in Homm2 live in a pyramid, while he lives in a cave in Homm3?
There are only several Archangels known in the bible...how can u get throng of them?
There is only ONE angel known who has fallen....and he became the devil (Lucifer)...how can u have throngs of Archdevils?
So u could go on and on.....but thatīs not the sense of a fantasy game....the gamplay should be logical...the history doesnīt have to be....
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mr_niceguy
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posted July 13, 2005 01:33 PM |
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nice story A_R_F, long just like i like it
I also want to point out it shouldnt even be NAMED cerberi, Cerberus is the dogs name not its speicied, and if theres only one there shouldnt be another name for cerberus. it would be like calling one Einstien an Einsti it doesnt make sense
and im just asking history questions that people might like to answer, its not like im FORCING them to answer
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a_rebirthing...
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posted July 13, 2005 01:44 PM |
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i see, so generally the 3do has(had) a HORRIBLE sense of historical accuracy
so you know what, rather than writing stories, i'll make scenarios based on 3do's somewhat bad research into mythology, so you people can write your crazy stories
1. Why does a cyclops shoot lasers?
2. How can you hire a pegasus, in greek (or was it roman) mythology there is only ONE pegaus, how can you hire more than one pegasus if there is only ONE?
3. Monks are either peaceful people who live in poverty and devote thier life to god (christian/western style) or people with incredible skills in martial arts (asian/eastern style) so my question is HOW THE HELL DOES A MONK DO A HADOKEN/KAMEHAMEHA!!?
4. There is only one ceberi as well, how can you make more than one?
5. if they can hire genies, why dont they just wish that they win the battle, THEY HAVE GENIES JUST WISH FOR VICTORY, why wouldnt they just do that?
6. beholders are meant to fly, why dont they fly?
1. see GG's explanation
2. this is erathian mythology, not greek
3. ahh the mysteries of life. its because they have been bestowed these powers by God
4. too much 'arry potter
5. these are spellcasting genies, not wish making genies
6. beholders dont actually fly but kinda hover. they are off the ground but cant fly
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posted July 13, 2005 01:52 PM |
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Why did the cyclop in Homm2 live in a pyramid, while he lives in a cave in Homm3
cyclops live in pyramids?! That doesnt make ANY SENSE!!
Pyramids are tombs for dead egyption pharohs, why would a cyclops live in one, cyclops' dont even exist in egyption mythology!! doesnt 3do do any research before making their games?!
and why is a raven like a writing desk?
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mr_niceguy
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posted July 13, 2005 02:41 PM |
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did you make up all those people(shakti, mutare)or were they actually in the game?
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a_rebirthing...
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posted July 13, 2005 02:48 PM |
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they are in the game. Mutare is the main hero in the campaigns and the other guys are just heroes
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guitarguy
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posted July 13, 2005 03:21 PM |
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Overall, a nice Dungeon story. Mutare lacks the aggressive vileness that she has in the campaign, but I'll forgive that because this is just fanfic. As with all stories we make, I'd have added my own little touches, though.
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and i just read the first post of this thread again and im wondering, Why/how does a pegasi come from a spring in the first place?!
I tried answering this in a story on Page 1. Perhaps that'll help.
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a_rebirthing...
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posted July 13, 2005 03:33 PM |
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erathian mythology
i think i might work on Rampart since i play them alot on the net
so what are u gonna do next GG?
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guitarguy
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posted July 13, 2005 03:41 PM |
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ahhh i see, but that still doesnt explain how there's more than one
Well, it's exactly what Angelito said. This could be another no-solution topic where the why's are endless. We could settle this by saying that these Pegasi are of the Erathian variety, sharing virtually no history to those of the Greek mythology version. To press the question any further would be fruitless, I believe.
Our world's fictional/non-fictional aspects conflict too much with the Heroes universe. We'd be going around in circles saying that the Barbarians and Stronghold couldn't have existed because Attila and Genghis were there instead. Or perhaps vice versa: Greece couldn't have been on the map because the Pegasi-owning Ramparts existed! It makes my head spin, in a way.
I think pure fantasy is the key here.
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I've done:
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-Dendroids
-Tatalia/Fortress
-Peasants
I might do something about Barbarians/Stronghold, maybe.
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