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Thread: United States President: 2008 [ This thread is 90 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 (35) 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 ]
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posted February 29, 2008 09:14 PM

 My mother is not into politics and says she won't vote for her because she has fat ankels...LOL.

 She changes everyday, her voice, attitude, and her coffee shop days of crying makes me want to take my shoe off and stick her in the eye with my heel...

 She is hitting it hard but she has super delicates that are going to Obamas side, friends of hers even...


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posted February 29, 2008 09:16 PM

 My mother is not into politics and says she won't vote for her because she has fat ankels...LOL.

 She changes everyday, her voice, attitude, and her coffee shop days of crying makes me want to take my shoe off and stick her in the eye with my heel...

 She is hitting it hard but she has super delicates that are going to Obamas side, friends of hers even...


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posted February 29, 2008 09:26 PM

Quote:
My mother is not into politics and says she won't vote for her because she has fat ankels...LOL.


LOL. I was at the polls once and these two young girls came in next to me. It was obvious it was the one girl's first time voting and I guess the other was there for moral support.

It went something like this:

Which one is he, I forgot? *giggle*
Oh! He's the cute one! *giggle giggle*
No, it was the other one who was the cute one! *giggle*
Are you sure? *giggle*
Of course I'm sure! *giggle giggle*
OK, I'll vote for him. *giggle*
*giggle giggle giggle*

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posted February 29, 2008 10:19 PM
Edited by Peacemaker at 22:42, 29 Feb 2008.

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what I find really funny is that Barack Obama is also named Hussein

That is a real kick in the nads


Yeah yeah... and Wolf Blitzer is secretly a Nazi plant who is slowly brainwashing the country via subliminal messages secretly telegraphed via CNN and soon we'll all be doing the goose-step and speaking German!

No wait -- THE REAL KICK IN THE NADS is that Obama is actually a Muslim Manchurian Candidate who will spring forth from a well as the twelfth Imam the minute he is inaugurated, single-handedly overthrow the government and the military, and turn us all into a bunch of frothing terrorists!!! -- OH MY GOD!!!

Actually, the REAL kick in the nads is the mere fact you give a **** about his middle name because the whisper-campaign dupes like yourself draw any sort of significance whatsoever from the sort of swift-boat fearmongering some folks are lowering themselves to.

Give me a break...

[SIGH]

Don't go away mad, Booboo, just go away...

VF -- hey there girl.  Long time.  Missed you!

Binabik -- Obama has closed the gap in the Ohio polls, which was twenty-some points in the beginning, to between 4 and 8 points this week.  The numbers change daily but the trend of his momentum is both clear and powerful. Both races (Ohio and Texas) remain likely to be very close.
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posted February 29, 2008 10:56 PM

Good I thought that she had a slight lead, good to know he is closing her gap, I mean the gap!!!
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posted March 01, 2008 04:36 AM

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Yeah yeah... and Wolf Blitzer is secretly a Nazi plant who is slowly brainwashing the country via subliminal messages secretly telegraphed via CNN and soon we'll all be doing the goose-step and speaking German!

No wait -- THE REAL KICK IN THE NADS is that Obama is actually a Muslim Manchurian Candidate who will spring forth from a well as the twelfth Imam the minute he is inaugurated, single-handedly overthrow the government and the military, and turn us all into a bunch of frothing terrorists!!! -- OH MY GOD!!!



I KNEW IT!  Oh man, it's already starting...I speak some German...oh no.
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posted March 01, 2008 01:35 PM

Since we're spreading false rumors.

If there's anyone who would most closely follow the plot of the Manchurian candidate -- you know, where a soldier is captured by chinese communists, tortured and brainswashed, it seems most similar to one particular candidates life story...

See how silly these kinds of rumors are?
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posted March 04, 2008 09:46 PM

Hey missy!!! Nice to hear from you Peacemaker!!!Our boy is going for it!!!Really excited!!
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posted March 04, 2008 09:49 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 21:51, 04 Mar 2008.

I think the polls have it wrong.  I think Obama will lose Texas by the slimmest of margins and beat Hillary in Ohio by at least 5.  If he takes Texas I expect an even wider margin of victory in Ohio.


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posted March 04, 2008 10:13 PM

If this happens it is becasue there are so many illegals that would vote for him but can't. Texas wants the dems back bad...
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posted March 04, 2008 10:21 PM

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If this happens it is becasue there are so many illegals that would vote for him but can't. Texas wants the dems back bad...


Are you saying illegal aliens should be able to vote?
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posted March 04, 2008 10:23 PM

Good Lord, NO! Just saying that is the only reason he will loose Texas...People smokin crack in here!!!
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posted March 04, 2008 10:27 PM

Ah, misinterpreted what you were saying then. I apologize
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posted March 04, 2008 10:42 PM

It isn't because of illegals he might lose Texas.  It has more to do with positive history with Texans.  There seems to be a generational divide among the Latino voters there.  The old guard prefers Hillary and the young'uns don't seem to have that allegiance.

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posted March 05, 2008 11:49 AM

Clinton has takem 3 out of 4 of todays contests, with the big prices of  Texas and Ohio among them. Obamas lead is still subtantial, with over 80 more delegates, but it came down from the 110 delegate lead. What can be said is that the race did not end here.




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posted March 05, 2008 12:47 PM

Even i'm not american i want Obama for president.I don't know very good all the candidates programs but i do know that Obama wants to take the US troopers from middle east and also the most important for my country is his position to name issue of F.Y.R.O.M.Obama with Menendez and Snowe take to U.S. senate effort to end FYROM hostile and irredentist propaganda against Greece.
Hilary on the other side called recently F.Y.R.O.M as Macedonia(after this statement she changed it a bit) and McCain is a republican and of course he will continue the same policy.
So go Obama go!Greek lobby is on your side!( i don't know about the powerful jewish lobby )

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posted March 05, 2008 01:54 PM

Nobody is going to withdraw the troops.  Anyone who says they are is just telling the masses what they want to hear.  

I must say I'm disappointed with the results of Ohio and Texas.  Man, if Bill cheats on her again, she'll be a shoe-in for the nomination.
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posted March 05, 2008 06:55 PM

Damn, she took Texas and Ohio... Pray to your God this pans out the way it needs to for change.
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posted March 05, 2008 07:01 PM
Edited by Peacemaker at 19:40, 05 Mar 2008.

Don't panic...

.... AAAAARRRGHGHGHGH!

(Just kidding)

For a clearer picture of what last night really represents, consider the following:

Popular vote:  Obama 12,947,755   Clinton 12,368,113


State         Delegates Obama Clinton
                 Total -      1542   1447

Super Delegates
-                    795      202      241

Pledged Delegates
-                   2642     1340     1206

Texas
03/04             193      70         78

Ohio
03/04            141       60         72

Rhode Island
03/04             21        8          12

Vermont
03/04             15        9          6

IOW, about the only real gain last night was in momentum, which nonetheless can be significant...

Two things to keep in mind:

1) FIREWALLS:  There are three main delegate-rich states remaining, not just one:  Pennsylvania (158 delegates on April 22), North Carolina (115 delegates on May 6), and Indiana (72 delegates on May 6).

April 22:

Penn (158) = Obama 37 Clinton 46, with 17% undecided.  

May 6 (two weeks later):

North Carolina (115) = currently Obama 47 Clinton 38, with 15% undecided.  I'm thinking this state may not be terribly influenced by last night, but we'll see.

Indiana = (72) Obama 45 Clinton 20 as of 2/28/08, but with a third undecided.  While no doubt this might tip in the next few days esp. given the undecided's, there's still plenty of time to work the state.

NC (115) + IA (72) = 187, a convenient LAST firewall in response to Hillary's Penn firewall of 158.

2)WILDCARDS:  The Party and locals in FL and MI are discussing re-running their primaries/caucuses, not just seating delegates based on the existing number, which would be extremely unfair.  If re-run, and depending on when or what state in the process, those numbers would clearly reflect a different outcome than they did the first time, since a) Obama's name will actually BE ON THE BALLOT this time, and b) John Edwards' name will NOT.  If anything re-running the states, the fairest thing to do, might even a greater count for Obama than for Clinton.  Then again maybe not, but still the numbers will very likely be better than the first time.

All the above, of course, is pending how much momentum was actually gained/stemmed last night, which in turn depends on how badly it gets spun.  Which remains to be seen.  The main point is that the thing could go in any direction from here, and probably will be swinging all over the place until we're done.

[EDIT]

one more thing...

I'm pretty sure the Texas caucus results won't be final for at least a few more hours if not a couple of days... So there remains a chance that the Texas numbers might once again cross in the calculations.











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posted March 05, 2008 07:20 PM

I know the swinging is making me dizzy.. It was not what I expected and I would like to see her knocked dout...
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