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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 23, 2010 10:07 PM

Underrated does not mean underpowered And back when the thread was made it wasn't quite as good as it is now.
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zaio-baio
zaio-baio


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posted June 24, 2010 02:03 PM

Elvin, im just reading your academy guide in celestial heavens - its great, can you write something about heaven ?

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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2010 08:05 PM

I spent a lot of time on that one, something that I am unfortunately not going to repeat anytime soon. Transition from text to article format was a pain. But there were some haven guides around here I think?
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zaio-baio
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posted June 25, 2010 06:45 PM
Edited by zaio-baio at 18:46, 25 Jun 2010.

could you share some links ? cant find anything

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Elvin
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posted June 25, 2010 07:05 PM

When in doubt search the table of contents Try this one or this. There's also this but it was started in early days of the game so part of it is not up to date with tote.

If I may offer some hints a build that always works against all factions is empathy, retribution and light. Rest are up to personal preference with logistics normally being a must and likewise for enlightenment if you can get it. Decent choices are defense and luck. Machines can be nice if you want to advance fast but not much of a later game use.
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zaio-baio
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posted June 25, 2010 11:39 PM
Edited by zaio-baio at 23:44, 25 Jun 2010.

ive already read 2 ot them, the third wasnt bad, but still nothing new

i wonder about getting both defence and enlightenment (if offered) vs charging factions(sylvan, inferno etc), imo the dmg reduction at lvls 20-25 will be insane, however maxing att + leadership fast is essential, and light is a must, so chances are - 2 of  def/luck/logistics will be the last picked skills.Im curious when do u get the latter - max attack + leadership require lvl 14-16 ( with retri, tactics, empathy) and at that point light is more important than logistics - it's final battle time, and mass light + storm wind > familiar ground.

which is the best training option ? if im rich enough( + expert counter ,expert trainer) i tend to train 10 footmans to 10 cavaliers - its expensive but i find it as highly effective

P.S it will be great if you share some of your academy/sylvan/heaven battle replays

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einomida
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posted June 27, 2010 01:45 AM

You can find many duels from threads like
THIS

Also a good place to look are tournament threads like THIS.

There are more, just that Temple Official was the last one I believe.

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zaio-baio
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posted June 27, 2010 09:10 PM

how to watch a replay ;( damn it this is my most lame post :@

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adriancat
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posted June 29, 2010 11:20 AM

i don't say that academy is overpowered but i played hundreds of times with this faction and i tried everything with it...and only4dungeon thinks he can beat my academy with stronghold....put him to tell you all what hot-seat game we had i with sylvan and him with stronghold....i lose 1/4 of my army with him....and remember that i losed 62 arcane archers and 16 pristine unicorns with a computer player...and i won with him after that.....i have 14-13 score with him....

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Elvin
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posted June 29, 2010 12:06 PM

Playing it hundreds of times still does not mean you know how to use them well
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posted July 01, 2010 01:54 AM

it's pretty clear that if academy get engaged in melee by a tough stronghold army, they are dead. executionners and untamed cyclops seem near unstoppable if they can get enough rage without suffering major losses.

I remember once, playing as stronghold, most of my army got killed before I couldn't do much things, and my stack of executionners who hadn't been attacked, destroyed almost all the enemy army by itself.

it seems to me that executionners are the biggest damage dealer in the game (if you consider damage dealt on the targetted stack only)
well, most of the time at least.

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Elvin
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posted July 01, 2010 01:56 AM

I've seen melee academy outmight orcs with some buffing aid and defense.. But that's nothing to try at home
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OnLy4DuNgEoN
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posted July 05, 2010 12:00 PM

Quote:
it's pretty clear that if academy get engaged in melee by a tough stronghold army, they are dead. executionners and untamed cyclops seem near unstoppable if they can get enough rage without suffering major losses.

I remember once, playing as stronghold, most of my army got killed before I couldn't do much things, and my stack of executionners who hadn't been attacked, destroyed almost all the enemy army by itself.

it seems to me that executionners are the biggest damage dealer in the game (if you consider damage dealt on the targetted stack only)
well, most of the time at least.


ye orcs are unstoppable if they attack first or survive at least half of stack at first attack...it's very important to have as much defense as you can have..with factions like necropolis you have no chance against them..with academy against orcs dark magic is a must for spells like puppet muster or frenzy..
@Elvin: Academy with buffs and better artifacts CAN'T beat a Stronghold only with creatures..Like he said, it's necesary just executioners ,for example, to finish of you army

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posted July 05, 2010 02:56 PM

Umm yes they can. It's just very unlikely to happen.
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posted July 05, 2010 06:21 PM

Quote:
Umm yes they can. It's just very unlikely to happen.


1/10 of times maybe

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adriancat
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posted July 09, 2010 09:14 PM

in my opinion with a wizard of 10 attack and expert luck you can defeat a stronghold.....they will attack first and will finish the orcs before they can react.....at least in siege battles wizards win 100%.....they are a good faction but it's the most difficult to play with them....but,never get up with a wizard

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Elvin
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posted July 10, 2010 08:34 PM

I had in mind attack/defense/luck/light academy Easy to play first, now if you can get some good lucky attacks while rage is still down you can mess up stronghold's hard hitters badly. Kill enough executioners/centaurs in first wave and with mass haste/RM you can weaken the rest at an impressive pace. Thing is that if you fall on a tactics/enlightenment barbarian with maxed luck/morale you'll more than likely be overwhelmed.
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adriancat
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posted July 16, 2010 07:53 PM

i have a dilemma about how to resist enemy early attacks....i do not know i tried everything possible and i've seen that is not possible to beat a necro or a haven hero in the early game....

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Elvin
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posted July 16, 2010 09:31 PM

That's kinda easy, both fall to motw + destructive if it's early. Or if you have fire warriors, firetrap, maybe a phoenix in case you want to rush the guild.. Haven is pretty weak earlygame, either dark or destructive can send them back crying to mommy. They have not much army to depend on(much less upgraded), weak magic and no training till week 4, only thing they could try is flaming ballista. And even that is useless against saboteurs.

Your lineup till week 3 will likely be saboteurs, obsidians, mages(split archmages rule if you can upgrade) and djinns/colossi. You are not likely to have minies but you don't really need them that early. Btw I left golems/rakshasas out on purpose, their resources are better spent on guilds. They both consume much needed ore.
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adriancat
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posted July 17, 2010 10:13 AM

thank you.....i have a thing to ask you: what upgrade is better Rakshasa Raja or Rakshasa Kshatra??i cannot decide of them

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