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posted December 08, 2006 06:56 PM |
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I'm not convinced about the similarity between the Conflux (H3 Style) graphics and what we see at Karthal - but apart from that, again, many good and interesting points.
I'm very curious about this world map you linked to - what is the origin of this? As you say, we see lost of lands on this new map in the eastern part of the "continent" that are not on the standard H5 map:
Kreegar - the Demon Lands.
Thyssus - comeplete with Capital Lagesh - where the Dessert Orcs should live!?
Khotan - with capital Chaga-Dai on the eastern "Golden Steppe" - is this the steppe Orcs, or is it an Nomadic people?
Hashima - with capital Nariya - by some interpreted as a swamp home of the Nagas.
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posted December 08, 2006 07:35 PM |
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Hey VokialBG You've done a great job ... I find your teories pretty reasonable ... And i must say that you can Figure out a new race by looking at those flag colours: Gold is a academy colour which may point us in the direction of a magicle town + the black colours from the Dungeon ... Red is Demon and Fortress colours and that is maybe something about fire power and strengt ... So maybe that town at the coast will be a very magic specced town... based on the colours.. So i might be wrong..
The thing with those orcs seems weird in some way? 2 types of orcs? well, i would say: Desert orcs = rare type of orcs, because the wizards is killing them, so they might pay a very little part in the further story. The other orcs seems like a orc type that traveled away from the deserts to find a more peaceful place, where they could live alone.
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posted December 08, 2006 07:38 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 19:50, 08 Dec 2006.
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I dont know anything about the lands, this map was Picture of the day in CelestialHeavens, some of the members, say that the map is from Ubi FTP, but I'm not sure about that, but i think this map can give us many answers, and many names of new lands.
About the nomadic people, in HoF campaign is a dialogue, the Kha Beleth, tell to Isabell, that his son live (well, I think this is the Dark Messiah from DM but in H5), and after 20 years, his son will go to Ashan (I think we will see this after some addons  ) and nothing will stop him, and Kha Beleth start to enumerate some races:
Humans, elves, undeads, dwarfs, even the nomads, maybe the nomads will be race in HoMM5?
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Hey VokialBG You've done a great job ... I find your teories pretty reasonable ... And i must say that you can Figure out a new race by looking at those flag colours: Gold is a academy colour which may point us in the direction of a magicle town + the black colours from the Dungeon ... Red is Demon and Fortress colours and that is maybe something about fire power and strengt ... So maybe that town at the coast will be a very magic specced town... based on the colours.. So i might be wrong..
Hmmm interesting, if we see again the colours:
- orange and gold for Academy
- black and purple for Dungeon
- red and steel gray for Fotress
- black and red for Inferno
- black and green for Necropolis
- green and brown for Sylvan
- gold and blue for Haven
Gold
Haven - humans
Academy - the heroes are humans, the wizards are humans
Red
Fotress - dwarfs
Inferno - deamons
Ok, maybe the new town is magical and the heroes are humans, something like new Academy, but the creatures are demonic, but Sylvan and Necropolis have green???
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posted December 08, 2006 09:25 PM |
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perhaps green means life
Syvlan warriors embrace life and nature
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Necros embrace the after life
although i could be completely wrong here
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alcibiades
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posted December 08, 2006 10:01 PM |
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Another INTERESTING quote Vokial. I will bet you anything that if there ever is a Nomad race, they will be living on The Golden Steppe country of Khotan.
I don't think you should put too much into the colours. Sure, each faction has a set of colours that goes with them, but I think associating the colour with the type of town would be severely overinterpreting their value. I simply think they chose those colours because they look good with the overall graphical layout of the respective towns (Red for Inferno and Fortress because they dwell in a furnace, Golden for Academy because they dwell in Desert, Green for Sylvan because the dwell in forest, Olive for Necropolis because that signifies disease, etc.).
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posted December 08, 2006 10:06 PM |
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http://www.celestialheavens.com/images/potd/big/map_heroes_wip.jpg
There will definitely be orcs cuz at the end of HoF Raelag says that he goes looking for the orcs as they are surely uncorrupted by the orcs. The naga temple puts to rest the whether there will be nagas or not. Yes, is the answer for those slow on the uptake. But lets take a look at the map above. Lagesh in Thyssus looks like a likely dwelling for orcs and the swamps of hashima for nagas. chaga dai could be the second choice for orcs.
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posted December 09, 2006 12:56 AM |
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Another INTERESTING quote Vokial. I will bet you anything that if there ever is a Nomad race, they will be living on The Golden Steppe country of Khotan.
I don't think you should put too much into the colours. Sure, each faction has a set of colours that goes with them, but I think associating the colour with the type of town would be severely overinterpreting their value. I simply think they chose those colours because they look good with the overall graphical layout of the respective towns (Red for Inferno and Fortress because they dwell in a furnace, Golden for Academy because they dwell in Desert, Green for Sylvan because the dwell in forest, Olive for Necropolis because that signifies disease, etc.).
I know that i shouldn't put that much in to the colors ... Its was just a funny teory ... IT could also be german  They have those colors
Well worked out a new teory ... You see i just noticed today that: there is a artifact called: Pendant of the conflux... Then i started thinking. conflux? Again? It could just be a necklace that looks at the neutrals ... But What if it was for a town... They made dwarfen artifacts? and there came a dwarf town.. I just dont think they will make a town where they make the neutrals "unneutrals" but maybe make new energy creatures? a town filled with magic? Then they could great summoning magic? and high magic attacks and such? Just a little idea ... nothing more
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posted December 09, 2006 01:40 AM |
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About the new map, why is there a big ocean int he middle of the HGE?
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posted December 09, 2006 04:08 AM |
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The sea in the centre of the HGE is called the Doom Sea, and it looks like a giant impact crator of a meteorite. Do we know anything of a cataclysmic event sometimes during the history of these campaigns - or could it be upcomming? In other words - could this be a future map of Ashan - for times following those in H5 and HoF? I know it's a far stretch, but somebody might have heard something (hint: DM storyline!?).
I think the theory about the Germans is a good one.
And about the Conflux thing - it *might* refer to an upcoming town, but also, the Elemental dwelling that we see in the game currently is called an Elemental Conflux, so that might prove nothing.
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posted December 09, 2006 11:21 AM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 11:23, 09 Dec 2006.
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1 Ashan isn't the continent, ashan is everithing in the HoMM Earth , so:
Ashan=Earth, the continent is called Palaedra:
and there are more continents in Ashan.
Now look the doom sea, after that look Stonehelm (the old map), what you think?
1. Stnehelm in not on the new map!
2. On the plase where is Stonehelm(the old map) is new sea, called Doom Sea(new map)
3. You can see star(maybe meteorite) called "Doom Star"
4. The Dark Messiah will be in Stonehelm after 20 years.
I think this map is future map after the end of the story in HoMM5, before HoMM6, when the Dark Messiah is dead, or not dead...
Do you know what happen in dark messiah, when you kill everybody, and keep the Skull of Schadows?
Apocalypse! Gigantic ray strike ashan and destroy the world!
About the nomads, see the nomads in the previous series:
Heroes 1
Heroes 2
Heroes 3
Heroes 4
OK I think the nomads will be arabic town!
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posted December 09, 2006 02:03 PM |
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Now look the doom sea, after that look Stonehelm (the old map), what you think?
1. Stnehelm in not on the new map!
2. On the plase where is Stonehelm(the old map) is new sea, called Doom Sea(new map)
3. You can see star(maybe meteorite) called "Doom Star"
4. The Dark Messiah will be in Stonehelm after 20 years.
I think this map is future map after the end of the story in HoMM5, before HoMM6, when the Dark Messiah is dead, or not dead...
Do you know what happen in dark messiah, when you kill everybody, and keep the Skull of Schadows?
Apocalypse! Gigantic ray strike ashan and destroy the world!
Yes! That was exactly what I was fishing for! This would make excellent sense if this is a map with relevance for Heroes 6. It makes perfectly sense with the info we have from Nival - remember these "11 factions, of which not all will be in Heroes 5". What we see here are countries for Orc, Nomad (Centaur!?) and some sort of swamp-creature that are *not* on the H5 map. Which again makes me wonder: Will we see a proper orcen faction in H5? Or will we only have one more faction - the one with the city of Karthal - before they launch H6?
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posted December 09, 2006 03:04 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 15:05, 09 Dec 2006.
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Yes! That was exactly what I was fishing for! This would make excellent sense if this is a map with relevance for Heroes 6. It makes perfectly sense with the info we have from Nival - remember these "11 factions, of which not all will be in Heroes 5". What we see here are countries for Orc, Nomad (Centaur!?) and some sort of swamp-creature that are *not* on the H5 map. Which again makes me wonder: Will we see a proper orcen faction in H5? Or will we only have one more faction - the one with the city of Karthal - before they launch H6?
Interesting, "11 factions, of which not all will be in Heroes 5" OK, one is the sity of Karthal, I think that orgs are in H5, but look here:
This is "Heroes of Might and Magic 5: Silver Edition", in the box are H5 Standart+HoF, and it is called "Silver Edition", maybe there will be only one more addon, and than we will see the "Gold Edition", if not what between the Silver end Gold Edition? Wood Edition
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posted December 09, 2006 03:16 PM |
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Premium Edition?
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there are a few that could make sense, but still, i was only now getting used to H5, its still a bit soon to think about H6,
besides H5 and Dark Messiah are garanted to ge on the same planet, it could be a completely different world (well maybe a bit similair)
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posted December 09, 2006 03:25 PM |
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I hope for the Orcs in next addon, but I'm not putting my hopes too high. All we have to base this on is dodgy information, but do remember that the Myth of creation states that the Barbarian tribes are currently "not united enough to form a faction". Question is when that's gonna change - during H5 or in H6 ... We know from the storyline that Orcs would be likely to occur somehow, but whether it'll be as a faction or something else I'm not sure ...
And yes, two addons seems like a very reasonable guess - that's what they did with H3 and H4 (I know that was 3D0, but still), and also, they would probably have called the HoF combo the Bronze edition, if they aimed for 3 addons. And on the map, we see only one more new city (besides Stonehelm): Karthal. It all does seem to add up, doesn't it?
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posted December 09, 2006 03:54 PM |
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Actually, if they have a platinum edition, there could be three add ons. They are saying their total creatures will "Easily Match the 130 of Heroes III."
14 units in 7 factions = 98 units + 9 neutruals = 107 + 7 Renegades = 114 units.
114 units + 14 from another faction = 128 units. This is pretty close to Heroes III. They might throw in a few neutrals, or they might be really nice and go for a total of 142 units with expansion 3.
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posted December 09, 2006 05:41 PM |
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in the second add-on it would be good if it included the campaigns of the previous games already inlocked
So like this
Main Screen---->Campaign--->HoF--->Mission 5(Mission 5 already unlocked)
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posted December 09, 2006 06:08 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 18:08, 09 Dec 2006.
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Hey, look what i find! In one dialog in H5, for the Dark Elves:
"Again they spurn your words to laud Urgash!"
Urgash is Necromanser in DM
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posted December 09, 2006 06:50 PM |
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Instead of pure speculation, does anyone actually KNOW of someone that works for Ubi who can tell us there will be another expansion? Or, are there any articles or interviews out there that say there will be?
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posted December 09, 2006 07:01 PM |
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Oooo, it is sure that there will be second addon, the question is:
Will be there third addon?
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posted December 09, 2006 07:24 PM |
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Hey, look what i find! In one dialog in H5, for the Dark Elves:
"Again they spurn your words to laud Urgash!"
Urgash is Necromanser in DM
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Well Urgash is the demon God in HoMM5... so i don't how it works? .. hmm weird actully?
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