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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: 86wyp and his MMR
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 14, 2007 07:22 PM

Only cold death is really an issue, otherwise there are ways of getting around these abilities as summoning the phoenix later and playing smart.
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TheDeath
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posted January 15, 2007 04:37 PM

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Pit lords? No problem.
I think that means bye-bye to Devils.

ZombieLord: I tried it too, but didn't get Phoenix.. man, I wish I saw how you used the strategy

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Doomforge
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posted January 15, 2007 07:15 PM

why? with such powerful creeping I can afford whatever I want. ;p

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TheDeath
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posted January 15, 2007 07:18 PM

Powerful creeping?? There is at most 1 Alchemist Lab in most maps (at your side), creeps don't give you mercury, unless you're lucky with piles, but you shouldn't rely solely on it.

Pit Lords cost 20 Mercury. Devils cost another 10. Assuming mage guilds and Succubi, you know what I mean. Plus Infernal Loom, and other stuff that costs mercury

If you happen to have the Alchemist Lab from day 1 week 1, it would produce in 3 weeks only 21 mercury.. not enough in my opinion for all these things, and at week 3.

My strategy is to build dwellings as fast as possible (not upgrading them if they cost "precious" resources) to have growth.. Later upgrade them. But MMR disrupts it!

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Doomforge
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posted January 15, 2007 07:24 PM

Inferno pummels the ground with MMR freaks.

Seriously.

Inferno fears not some funny magical rushers, but... One tip, it's an Academy strategy. I wonder if you can guess.

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TheDeath
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posted January 15, 2007 07:26 PM

What? Academy underpowered?

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Doomforge
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posted January 15, 2007 08:40 PM

no way! Academy is actually good.

And, there is one particular strategy, that makes it possible for an Academy player to mop the floor with Inferno.

I wonder if you can guess what strategy I'm thinking about ;p

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theluCas
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thiNk
posted January 15, 2007 09:10 PM

MMMRush?

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Doomforge
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posted January 15, 2007 09:11 PM

-_-

No, Inferno totally owns MMR freaks, as I said ;p

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theluCas
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posted January 15, 2007 09:12 PM
Edited by theluCas at 21:13, 15 Jan 2007.

Why?
Because of Deleb?

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Doomforge
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posted January 15, 2007 09:20 PM

because of many factors. Yes, deleb is one of them. But not all of them.

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theluCas
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posted January 15, 2007 09:25 PM

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because of many factors. Yes, deleb is one of them. But not all of them.

So your answer is just because

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Elvin
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posted January 15, 2007 09:30 PM

Hey, Doomforge got a lvl-up! Yay!
Anyway I'd like to see him play inferno without Deleb no matter how much he sais inferno needs her. I'd like to see him tackle MMR then.
And yes I'm aware of familiars, motd+excruciating strike plus TA with pitlords. If you manage to get them all in time it's still not easy to come on top of academy!
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theluCas
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posted January 15, 2007 09:36 PM
Edited by theluCas at 21:38, 15 Jan 2007.

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Hey, Doomforge got a lvl-up! Yay!
Anyway I'd like to see him play inferno without Deleb no matter how much he sais inferno needs her. I'd like to see him tackle MMR then.
And yes I'm aware of familiars, motd+excruciating strike plus TA with pitlords. If you manage to get them all in time it's still not easy to come on top of academy!


I dont want to count lvl, he need's for all this skills to have. Vs familiars is good nur.
But i did not played this match up, is there on internet some vod, like for starcraft,warcraft,conter strike, quake 3 and so on?

Inferno is much about deleb.

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Elvin
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posted January 15, 2007 09:52 PM

No I meant he got the last yellow star and is now a supreme hero!
And I don't know anything like that, I just mentioned some handy combos vs phoenixes.
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sq79
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posted January 16, 2007 06:51 AM
Edited by sq79 at 06:58, 16 Jan 2007.

Hehe Doomforge,I just played a peninsula game lately with deleb and sadly,I noticed inferno is nothing without deleb .
With deleb, level 10 in week 1, 15 in day10,11... Don't recall any heroes capable of that
And final battle, inferno troops basic does zero damage except withstanding the attack from enemy troops while ballista does the job
She can clear everything on top with her ballista in week 1 even the shadow matriches.. no way any other inferno hero can achieve that in such a short time
Inferno is all about deleb

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Sanyu
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posted January 16, 2007 09:40 AM

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And final battle, inferno troops basic does zero damage except withstanding the attack from enemy troops while ballista does the job
She can clear everything on top with her ballista in week 1 even the shadow matriches.. no way any other inferno hero can achieve that in such a short time
Inferno is all about deleb



Er, are you sure inferno units do little damage. Coz I can achieve 10000+ damage very easily without luck...

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sq79
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posted January 16, 2007 09:52 AM

Quote:
Quote:
And final battle, inferno troops basic does zero damage except withstanding the attack from enemy troops while ballista does the job
She can clear everything on top with her ballista in week 1 even the shadow matriches.. no way any other inferno hero can achieve that in such a short time
Inferno is all about deleb



Er, are you sure inferno units do little damage. Coz I can achieve 10000+ damage very easily without luck...


In that map heroic mode.. its fight in week 2 with only horn demons and imps dun even need to use them for fight or wait for gated creatues, fight is already over

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Doomforge
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posted January 16, 2007 10:39 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 10:41, 16 Jan 2007.

huh? lucky hellfired triple attack of cerberi is a killer. Nightmares can do a lot, considering they do triple damage of furies with the same initiative. Pit Lords are powerhouses. Archdevils - woooah. Succubi ain't wonderful, but with hellfire they can do wonders! And there is also gating for free +50% army or so. Inferno takes time to develop, but ultimately is one of the strongest armies possible. Deleb nullifies their weakness at early stage, making the faction a killer in the earlygame aswell, that's why you probably need her. Without Deleb, you will get rushed and lose, cmon what can you do with apes, a bit of weak imps and few dogs? Nothing, damnit.

Of course you can do well without Deleb on bigger maps.. yes, you actually can. Say, nebiros with fast tactics so dogs can own the shooters.. but the question is, what for. Deleb is fun and powerful. Grawl would be fun too, but he has destructive instead of attack >_> Alastor could be fun too, had he started with dark. But for now on, he is too much of a lottery -_- Only Deleb is flawless. Unfortunately.

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Elvin
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posted January 16, 2007 10:51 AM

What about Nymus?
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