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Moonlith
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If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted May 23, 2009 11:54 AM |
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I don't like going by assumptions (hence I'd feel equally as jitty as Emilsn in that situation), but in that case I -think- it's safe to assume she said the same thing to you in a non-verbal way.
Although personally I'd still be jumpy, like if the kisses were to the cheek my mind would tend to go "Couldn't that be her way of saying she likes me but -not- in that way? Kind of like soothing kisses?"
Guh... Why can't people just be clear about these things? Saves so much stress...
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What if I'll be alone, now?
I don't want to be alone...
What's wrong with being alone?
One theory I find interesting is that people who feel they need someone to love them don't love themselves. Start loving yourself (literally too)!
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smvuy
Known Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 03:23 PM |
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a song 
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emilsn
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posted May 23, 2009 05:25 PM |
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Okay 
I am just such a doubter
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
I may not follow. Just walk
beside me and be my friend.
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted May 24, 2009 03:56 PM |
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No doubt, love is always risky. Just take it along with the rewards.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 24, 2009 10:06 PM |
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Risky, you say?
I personally don't see any risks... maybe it's just me 
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted May 25, 2009 12:49 AM |
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That's because you haven't loved someone yet or entrusted your heart to someone, yet.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 25, 2009 09:41 AM |
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Well, except my parents and my sister.
But yeah, I was never really that "engaged"... Still, I have a pretty realistic approach of "doesn't work? good riddance.." and I would try to stick to it even in real love 
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted May 25, 2009 09:43 AM |
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@Doom: GL when you do fall in love.
Good riddance is the last thing you'll be able to say if it ever comes to that. 
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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TitaniumAlloy
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Professional
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posted May 25, 2009 02:54 PM |
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Once i had love and it was a blast
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John says to live above hell.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 25, 2009 03:01 PM |
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Good riddance is the last thing you'll be able to say if it ever comes to that.
But it will have to work for me to fall in love in the first place
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mvassilev
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 26, 2009 01:49 AM |
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted May 26, 2009 01:56 AM |
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Didn't cheer me up, mvass.
Not one bit! In fact, I feel like murdering some precious childhood memory or drinking.
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mvassilev
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 26, 2009 01:59 AM |
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It's not meant to cheer you up. It's meant to change your outlook on things so you would be more successful in the future.
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Eccentric Opinion
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winterfate
Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
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posted May 26, 2009 02:00 AM |
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@Mvass: So true. Doesn't make it any less precious though.
@Dagoth: Why so serious?
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted May 26, 2009 02:23 AM |
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Man, it's probably sleep deprivation and the fact I feel pretty much unsatisfied with a great many things, which is either normal at my age, pathetic or both, but...
I think...
I know it is wrong to demand love from someone for no adequate reason, but that still is not helping my current predicament. Knowledge is power, but sometimes I prefer not knowing. Not knowing is not desiring or missing.
And I'm still here, weak as I am. I am not a vestige of talents or willpower, I am not a fortress nor an island, but there is no other means of existence, only that possibility and I fear I will never have a break from it. I am becoming a weak irrational being and I have nowhere to go and nowhere to lean on to, no place of recovery, apart from the shadows. Everyone else pretty much agrees, what with DF saying that love is impossible, except after x amount of exp, everyone with experience also says your friends won't last and I'm already growing away from them or distancing myself and then off course, the understanding (insert quotes where needed) people seem to have for me.
To top it all off, love is something you earn and not receive. And I have no idea how to accomplish that, except for some vague phrases like: it's not your time for this or that I first must gain succes, but the chances of that... And then what? Being an ivory tower?
Bah, I'm so serious because I'm reminded of things and I'd rather sleep than remember, rather nestle myself in self-pity and warmth than face any demons of the outside world.
I'll leave everyone with these very cryptic, sinister and moody, emo-ish words and bid thee a good night. I have walked amongst unknown men and I still do, resentful.
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winterfate
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Water-marked Champion!
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posted May 26, 2009 02:29 AM |
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And I'm still here, weak as I am. I am not a vestige of talents or willpower...
Well neither am I, but that's what friends are for. No one said you had to bear the burden alone.
I am not exaggerating when I say that I'd be DEAD if it weren't for my friends. Sometimes you just have to accept that you will be weak at times and just let others help you.
This coming from a stubborn Dragon.
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rather nestle myself in self-pity
NO! 
Never!
That is a perilous path that, once taken, could become addicting.
Negative feelings are just as addictive as their positive counterparts. (You get used to being happy; but you can also get used to being sad is one example of what I mean).
It's much easier to break free of the depression when it hasn't already taken hold.
Never give up, never surrender!
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If you supposedly care about someone, then don't push them out of your life. Acting like you're not doing it doesn't exempt you from what I just said. - Winterfate
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mvassilev
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posted May 26, 2009 02:42 AM |
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Dagoth:
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Knowledge is power, but sometimes I prefer not knowing.
That's a very bad attitude. If you were walking on train tracks, and were blind and deaf, would you want to be informed that there's a train coming? If you had cancer, would you want to be informed so you could get it treated? If you could get an awesome job that's really fun and pays a lot, wouldn't you want someone to know about it?
Your kind of attitude has never made sense to me.
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Everyone else pretty much agrees, what with DF saying that love is impossible, except after x amount of exp, everyone with experience also says your friends won't last and I'm already growing away from them or distancing myself and then off course, the understanding (insert quotes where needed) people seem to have for me.
Love is not impossible. DF is just cynical because he's been going about it the wrong way. As for friends - don't distance yourself from them. They're the best thing you have in addition to your family. You may drift apart from them, but if you do, it won't be very disappointing - it'll be preferable to staying with them despite your differences.
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To top it all off, love is something you earn and not receive. And I have no idea how to accomplish that, except for some vague phrases like: it's not your time for this or that I first must gain succes, but the chances of that...
You're a smart person, so all you need is self-confidence. Once you get that, everything will be fine.
How do you go about getting self-confidence? It's not too hard. Don't distance yourself from your friends. Go hang out with them. See how you enjoy their company and how they enjoy yours. Go do something you're good at. Take pride in yourself. Say, "Despite whatever flaws I may have, I am a paragon of everything that is right in the world." And, before you know it, you will have all the self-confidence you need.
Don't be depressed. There is food on the table and water in the reservoir. There is a computer, with all the fun that you can obtain with it. There are books, full of immersive worlds and intriguing ideas. And, above all, there are good, pleasant, intelligent people who walk the Earth.
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veco
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who am I?
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posted May 26, 2009 08:59 AM |
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Knowledge is power, but sometimes I prefer not knowing.
Your kind of attitude has never made sense to me.
If you want to push extreme exmaples then - would you like to know about an incurable cancer? a mobsters secret and make you and your family be threatened by him?
"What the eye can't see the heart can't grieve for" didn't came out of nowhere.
Your kind one-way-of-thinking has never made sense to me.
@Dagoth
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You're a smart person, so all you need is self-confidence.
Every morning step to a mirror and lauch a genuine smile towards yourself or/and say something like "Today! The world will be mine!". Feels strange at first
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rather nestle myself in self-pity and warmth than face any demons of the outside world.
You will have to do it eventually and the longer you wait the harder it will be. Make haste in rallying yourself. As winterfate said negatives can and will get very addicting.
Slowride!
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mvassilev
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 26, 2009 02:24 PM |
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Yes. Then I could get treatment to make things less painful, plus plan my life accordingly.
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a mobsters secret and make you and your family be threatened by him?
This is different because knowledge usually doesn't change your situation unless you act on it. In this case, it does.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 27, 2009 09:56 AM |
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Hey, I never said love is impossible. It's a very real feeling and can be found in many places. I just think it needs time, or, as Dagoth stated, x amount of exp
And I agree with Mvass: You need self-confidence. It's what so many people lack nowadays. Everyone is so scared not to become a narcissist or an arrogant person, but that pushes people to the edge of being weak and submissive, and it's even worse than arrogance.
What I promote though is self-assertion, though, not arrogance. Also in relationships, unless you like being dominated or something, of course. The things I really hate in relationships are:
- when a girl tries to "raise me" to her liking. I am VERY likely to compromise, but I'm not some stupid child, all she needs is to ask, all she doesn't need to do is to try to try to influence me.
- when she tries a stupid system of punishments and rewards lol. ESPECIALLY sex-based. I wouldn't stand it, seriously, like "uh, you're late, no sex today" or "you bought me such a nice present, we can do it from behind today" , or whatever like that. I'm not some dog to get stroked after sitting on command.
- All kinds of sulks. I hate them.
If I meet a person who tries such things, I WILL dump her. Many people though would succumb, though.. and let their partners get more and more dominance over them. So sad.
As for the death of relationships, like I said earlier, in young age, it's always boredom. She gets more fun with the other person so she dumps you... natural for teens. And definitely not something to blame yourself for.
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