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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 06:32 PM |
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No time limit
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 20, 2008 06:34 PM |
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azagal just think about a veeery simple situation were you dont get in the mentor the soldier's luck. and your vempire princes don't blind the last stack of the opponent and next move he kills you. is that or not an unfair thing? and it is one of dozens of cases. even 100 gold more toi one of the players is unfair . end of discussion. this map will never become 100% fair unfortunately!
If you don't have soldier's luck - which is rare anyway - then you act accordingly and try minimizing the risks. Attacking a large stack is a bad move with little chance of success, if you fail that's because you took a bad gamble in which case it's your own fault. The 100 gold argument is golden. And no there can never be true balance with random spells, luck, morale and random triggering chances.
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 06:37 PM |
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15 seconds in what turns? duels? in any case no time limit at all
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted September 20, 2008 07:04 PM |
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and it is one of dozens of cases. even 100 gold more toi one of the players is unfair . end of discussion. this map will never become 100% fair unfortunately!
Would you perhaps stop forming your sentences as facts? See there are those people who read that and ignore it (I admire them) and there a other people who can't stand your constant nagging (that'd be me... perhaps I'm the only one). I believe a conversation is much more civilised if neither side of a party goes into a conversation thinking "I am right in whatever I say". So for the sake healthy conversationing would you do me the favour and stop pretending that everything you say is 100% correct and everybody else isn't? That'd be great.
To your soldiers luck case:
a) If it is one of dozens of cases then you chose badly in a dozen of cases or you were simply unlucky. It has nothing to do with being unfair.
And about the money... if you choose your skills right you won't need to mentor, even if you do have to mentor worst case scenario is you have 12000+ressources left. That are 6 mentor visits + the next day (if you don't think it's dishonourable to use the mentor the second day). You really have enough money if you plan well. Atleast in my experience and if you're unlucky you're unlucky (28 levels without empathy diplomacy getting offered lol). I mean what's your point? Every body should get 999999999999 so that they are assured their perfect build? No way that's not how this game works.
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 07:43 PM |
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perhaps you will teach me how this game works? hahahaha the duel map is unfair and imbalanced. my sentences are facts as i have more experience than some (not elvin of course). if you can't stand someone being right and you wrong then dont read my replies. other than that learning to play heroes may help you
also dont bother answering to what i said because i will not spend 1 more minute answering back to you
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted September 20, 2008 07:51 PM |
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What a pain...
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 08:03 PM |
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I just had a nasty bug in a duel with Radar: I unlearned some skills using the Mentor and didn't level up 
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 08:05 PM |
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really? which exactly skills??
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 08:07 PM |
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I unlearned Expert Necromancy, Expert Attack, Advanced Luck and then Basic Luck, but didn't level up again. I was left with only 17 skill points, without counting the racial that we start with.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted September 20, 2008 08:07 PM |
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15 seconds in what turns? duels? in any case no time limit at all
Well, I guess it must be tempting to use, if playing against Elit
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 08:10 PM |
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wait, you said you had 17 skill points. what about levels? maybe you had some artifacts that take out stats? it seems very weird. i am just trying to think other weird things! also someone knows for sure if after you forget a skill you forget also the stat you took with it or not? if not probably you dont take you stats when you use mentor.
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 08:11 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 20:14, 20 Sep 2008.
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btw, Necro vs Stronghold is pretty much hopeless, those Orcs die so hard because of Blood Rage (I even Frenzied the Cyclopes)
Also no Torpor in the whole battle
EDIT: I had level 21, but only a Naadir that looked like this:
Advanced Necromancy -> Banshee Howl, MotN
Expert Enlightenment -> Intelligence, Graduate, Wizard's Reward
Expert Dark Magic -> Master of Mind and Curses
Basic Defense -> Vitality
Advanced Attack -> Tactics, Battle Frenzy
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 08:12 PM |
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sorry asheera but necro is preeeety strong against orcs!
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 08:16 PM |
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But I'm still amazed that 12 Wraiths killed only 7 Executioners
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 08:16 PM |
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i can count 21 skills asheera. remember that expert something is 3 skills. i dont know what else you could mean...
as for the wraiths and executioners is normal, high rage. thats why you cant expect attack to beat them! be nasty and use magic!
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 08:17 PM |
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Yes it is 21 but we start with the racial (advanced + 2 perks)
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted September 20, 2008 08:17 PM |
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Asheera: Banshee howl, Freny, blind, Confuse, Summon Phoenix and Traps, CotN and Crystal. it is VERY difficult to win this battle Without Frenzy/Blind, Curse and Phoenix. Also, get rid of that Ballista quickly!!!
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted September 20, 2008 08:19 PM |
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Edited by radar at 20:21, 20 Sep 2008.
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When you unlearn things levels always come back. That's not a difficult thing to spot (or not to)
Lex: I had no ballista, and my frenzied untamed killed all my centaurs and 80% goblins after her first spell, they also got blind later (so I "woke them up" them with word of the chief after 2 turns)
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted September 20, 2008 08:19 PM |
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hmmm i think all the heros start with 0 perks in duel map..... Elvin help here!
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Asheera
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted September 20, 2008 08:21 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 20:22, 20 Sep 2008.
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When you unlearn things levels always come back. That's not a difficult thing to spot (or not to)
Exactly. I unlearned 3 things first, no level up. I thought: ok, this is strange, and I tried again, unlearning another one. The same result.
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