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Cepheus
Cepheus


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posted April 16, 2009 09:44 PM

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Nevermind - i will create map versions and icons.


I have no problem with creating the icons, it would only take an hour at most, but if you have the time then go ahead

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 16, 2009 11:44 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 02:03, 17 Apr 2009.

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2Salamandre: are this pictures from Oblivion?


Not hard to guess

I was thinking to give to queen Gorgo a hot appearance but finally I thought some users can think the length of her...heu...bikinis is somehow shocking...




Gary, I tested your creatures and sent you the ones requested



Do you think that some improvements can be done?

Like the power lich stooping its animation on profile, and not standing toward the south?
Would be possible to have the devil creature stop his turn animation with those hands open for much better effect (he is stooping turn turned to south also, can do profile)?
@Darkloke: the cyclop is awesome, thanks. Now we have to find why the peltast is crashing on shoot.

@Cepheus, I did as you suggested, replaced creatures one by one and adding the def name in H3 sprite txt. If I want to replace 16 creatures at once, I guess I have to add in H3 sprite txt. 16 def names, and thats all, right? And add 16 def into the rar. What I need to backup? H3sprite lod and H3bitmap lod only?


The hardest part when replacing creatures is to find the one with the appropriate sound effects. If the abomination replaces an angel, you will hear weird sounds. Behemot is the best.
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Alustor
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posted April 17, 2009 01:34 AM
Edited by Alustor at 01:34, 17 Apr 2009.

hehe i see that now u also have toys
edit:lots

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Darkloke
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posted April 17, 2009 07:03 AM

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2Salamandre: are this pictures from Oblivion?
Not hard to guess


I can make an artifacts for u from there.

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I was thinking to give to queen Gorgo a hot appearance but finally I thought some users can think the length of her...heu...bikinis is somehow shocking...

Hot? Not, this isnt hot... If u are looking for real 'hot', check this mod:
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13437

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Do you think that some improvements can be done?

Death knight has very stange look... Probably palette problem? Here is how he looks in real:


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Now we have to find why the peltast is crashing on shoot.

I know - will try to look into when i would have time.

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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 08:23 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 08:24, 17 Apr 2009.

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I can make an artifacts for u from there.



I need only a nice looking sword and bow

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Hot? Not, this isnt hot... If u are looking for real 'hot', check this mod:



Yes, we all have different opinions of what "hot looking" is. Fortunately it seems always related to the length of the bikinis and other optional clothes.
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Darkloke
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posted April 17, 2009 08:44 AM

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I need only a nice looking sword and bow

Just name them. My oblivion knowledge is poor so far, so i would prefer an exact names (better from editor).

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Yes, we all have different opinions of what "hot looking" is. Fortunately it seems always related to the length of the bikinis and other optional clothes.


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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 09:19 AM

I don't have Oblivion game.

But there are two swords from it. Any daedric bow will be fine.

Goldbrand



Rugdumph





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Darkloke
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posted April 17, 2009 09:42 AM

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Goldbrand
Rugdumph

Ok. I will look for them.

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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 10:40 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 11:12, 17 Apr 2009.

Problems so far.

Peltast: crash when haflings, works with orc cheftains, and I can keep them as orcs.
Longbowman: crash when any x3 of the sharpshooters/grand elves/Marksmans, but works with orcs cheftain and can't keep them as orcs.
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Darkloke
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posted April 17, 2009 11:32 AM

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Peltast: crash when haflings, works with orc cheftains, and I can keep them as orcs.
Longbowman: crash when any x3 of the sharpshooters/grand elves/Marksmans, but works with orcs cheftain and can't keep them as orcs.

I found a source of this crashes.

In the cranim.txt there is a parameter - attack climax frame (ACF), which used to determine after which actual frame the creature is actually shoot (launches a missile and so on). So if ACF is greater than overall number of frames for shooting animation, the game will crash.

For example - the number of shooting frames for Longbowman_Middle_East is 6, so if u will replace them instead wood elves which have ACF value of 11, the game definitely will crash.

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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 11:42 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 11:56, 17 Apr 2009.

I changed in Cranim the ACF of arctics to 6 but still crash.

OK, problem solved. Longbowman will replace war zealots (ACF=6), Peltasts will replace orc cheftains (ACF=4)

Thanks
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Darkloke
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posted April 17, 2009 11:53 AM

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I changed in Cranim the ACF of arctics to 6 but still crash.

And u replaced arctics with ... ?

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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 11:57 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 12:23, 17 Apr 2009.

Edited the previous post: solved. I had the option between sorceresses and war zealots but I need original sorceress sprite for a bunch of custom quests, so it had to be war zealots.

Edit: replaced zealots (castle) with longbowman because the war zealot had magic mirror hardcoded and it screws all the already scripted battles.


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gk1981
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posted April 17, 2009 01:21 PM

Salamandr and Darkloke,

I'll make some editions of the devil and death knight this weekend and mail them to you guys.

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kesnar
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posted April 17, 2009 02:48 PM

Ermmm....Katanas are Japanese...all others are greek-persians....
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Alustor
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posted April 17, 2009 05:31 PM

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Ermmm....Katanas are Japanese...all others are greek-persians....


agree i don t think the katana would fit the scebario...

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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 05:36 PM

What's wrong with you, people? Should I also write the story in ancient Greek to please you?
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Cepheus
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posted April 17, 2009 06:45 PM

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@Cepheus, I did as you suggested, replaced creatures one by one and adding the def name in H3 sprite txt. If I want to replace 16 creatures at once, I guess I have to add in H3 sprite txt. 16 def names, and thats all, right? And add 16 def into the rar. What I need to backup? H3sprite lod and H3bitmap lod only?


Yep, that should do it.  As for backups, I would recommend we make a second .wog file with the original .defs inside, so when (if? ) people are done with your map, they can use it to restore the default Heroes III creatures.

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Salamandre
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posted April 17, 2009 06:55 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:08, 17 Apr 2009.

Very good idea. I already have it, as  I had to play around with messed sprites.

Thanks

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so when (if? ) people are done with your map


I think it will be accessible to anyone. There are 4 difficulty levels (which will generate a different score), and even a guy from the Tavern could win the first one, while I expect only one guy to win the last.


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Alustor
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posted April 17, 2009 09:29 PM

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What's wrong with you, people? Should I also write the story in ancient Greek to please you?


actually i know greek

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