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Warmonger
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posted February 11, 2009 07:38 PM |
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These lizards look absolutely, Uni's Tear is also outstanding.
Wish you luck with this mod, just a week ago I thought it's not gonna run at all.
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kainc
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posted February 11, 2009 08:18 PM |
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These lizards look absolutely, Uni's Tear is also outstanding.
Wish you luck with this mod, just a week ago I thought it's not gonna run at all.
I thank you. This mode is running more or less, depends how much studies (University of Applied Sciences) and work (warehouseman @ travel agency) I have.
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted February 11, 2009 08:36 PM |
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Wow awesome, the Steelskin Sprinter looks splendid IMO 
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SimonaK
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posted February 11, 2009 10:37 PM |
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Desert Runner & Steelskin Sprinter
go go go NCF NCF go go go
haha 
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Fauch
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posted February 12, 2009 12:05 AM |
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there isn't a big difference between the beast tamer and the animal trainer.
also, the faction seems a bit too slow overall. even necropolis and fortress have faster creatures.
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 08:53 AM |
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there isn't a big difference between the beast tamer and the animal trainer.
also, the faction seems a bit too slow overall. even necropolis and fortress have faster creatures.
Do you think I could add one more ability for both of them (different of course) to make 'em differ more or should I change stats (also)?
Hmm.. by saying slow you mean initiative? since in speed Oblivion owns at least Necros (haven't calc. fortress yet). In init. Oblivion is way behind and I indeed have to do something to fix it.
Thanks for pointing out these things. I do some more calculations to balance the facation.
@SimonaK
 is there still room in NCF?
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Warmonger
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posted February 12, 2009 09:09 AM |
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As you may learn here, we have over 500 free slots thanks to Simon
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 09:19 AM |
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As you may learn here, we have over 500 free slots thanks to Simon
It is like 1,5 years since I've checked that topic  (I remeber my username was Cougar back then, so sorry for making new one but I honestly didn't remember I was signed here until couple of weeks ago).
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Ok, I've made some calculations with 3 factions + Oblivion, and here are the results. Total Init.Spd. (total value, all creatures summed). Flyers value is pointing out which tier creatures are flyers.
Academy 204 116 2, 5
Necropolis 208 111 3, 4, 7 (Vampire upgrades are counted as flyers)
Sylvan 236 133 1, 7
Oblivion 192 154 3, 7 (assuming Tier 7 has 10 9 X)
so we see here that in initiative Oblivion is way behind while it owns in speed. And what comes to flyers, I've calculated the average of tiers. Academy has 3,5, Necros 3,5, Sylvans 4 and Oblivion 5. So what does this mean? Oblivion has more "flying power" (according to tier levels) than other 3 factions.
Conclusion
- I will give some creatures more initiative (not just randomly but actually with some logic),
- I'll reduce speed a bit from some units,
- They can have the crown in flyers' strenght 
But since there are only 3 factions I'm comparing it to, I WILL make more and more calcs. to see the whole picture.
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Now I'm planning to make a diagram like this from every tier. Inferno is left out since it will be replaced. Here we can see how Oblivion can match up other creatures in stats.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted February 12, 2009 11:57 AM |
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They can have the crown in flyers' strenght
You might want to remember though that the Perk "Storm Winds" will then reduce the initiative of 5 out of 7 units by 20% and their speed by 2.
I think the perk (which is fairly easy to acquire for any light magic faction) will therefore be a bit too powerful against your faction.
What do you think?
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 12:08 PM |
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They can have the crown in flyers' strenght
You might want to remember though that the Perk "Storm Winds" will then reduce the initiative of 5 out of 7 units by 20% and their speed by 2.
I think the perk (which is fairly easy to acquire for any light magic faction) will therefore be a bit too powerful against your faction.
What do you think?
Thanks for the info, only problem is I can't find that perk anywhere. Do you know a specific page in for example www.heroesofmightandmagic.com where that skills can be seen 'cause I'd like to know more.
Ah, found it 
Since Oblivion is falling behind in initiative even without any hexes, I'm planning to raise initiative of Gryphies by 2 and Lizards (tier 6) by 2.
New plan then. What do you think of it now:
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 03:10 PM |
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Let me introduce the 0.0001 version of Tier 7 base: Scion
It's not phoenix based as I first had in mind...
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted February 12, 2009 03:16 PM |
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Kha-Beleth - great idea, although he lacks some animations (such as death)
I hope you can get around that problem somehow.
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Darkwulf
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posted February 12, 2009 03:52 PM |
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Aww,I liked the phonix idea more, But it still looks good
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DarkCrystal
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Supreme Hero
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posted February 12, 2009 04:06 PM |
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I have found some veeery strange bugs in your lizard and still haven't found the problem. Only one question: what version of the game do you use?
EDIT: Woopse! It's all right, I've found a problem.
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 05:44 PM |
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I have found some veeery strange bugs in your lizard and still haven't found the problem. Only one question: what version of the game do you use?
EDIT: Woopse! It's all right, I've found a problem.
Heh, good anyways it's 3.1 if you need it later.
Phoenix was great idea and I'm not 100% sure if this colossus-Sovereign actually fits the game since it's like 2x size of a giant And he doesn't have moving animations, no attack, no death I could make him teleporter and use casting animation in attacking (but it's kinda stupid since he has that cool sword and wouldn't be using it).
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DarkCrystal
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Staright out of line
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posted February 12, 2009 06:26 PM |
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Your lizard is almost finished, but when I looked closer on the phoenix death animation, I saw that lizard's legs became weird. So I'll make some experiments, and if I fail we'll have to make this weird anim. But I think my idea should work.
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Sometimes I'm about to yell: "It is flat you idiots!" But I don't wanna die in fire.
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 06:47 PM |
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Your lizard is almost finished, but when I looked closer on the phoenix death animation, I saw that lizard's legs became weird. So I'll make some experiments, and if I fail we'll have to make this weird anim. But I think my idea should work.
Yeah, looks like textures (or skeleton) get messed up well, do your best it's not that big glitch.
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 12, 2009 06:55 PM |
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I made an excel sheet to compare all the creatures and factions
here
(it's in french)
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kainc
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posted February 12, 2009 07:22 PM |
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I made an excel sheet to compare all the creatures and factions
here
(it's in french)
Merci! I don't know much french unfortunately, but there are lots of online dictionaries to help me out
BTW DarkCrystal can we have more than one <effect> value in arena-*someaction*.xdb?
Please comment this one, mates: how about if I cut flyers to 1 and have 3 shooters? will it completely ruin the balance?
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Darkwulf
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posted February 12, 2009 09:32 PM |
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It may make it slightly overbalanced, depending on the creature, but probably not by much.
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