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artu
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posted April 23, 2019 08:54 PM
Edited by artu at 06:37, 24 Apr 2019.

If it’s a fantasy world and the fiction is built well, I don’t mind. The black Spider-Man in the Spider-man multi-verse was fun for instance, so were the Spider-Woman, Spider-Man Noir, cartoon Spider-Man, anime Spider-Man, Blondie Spider-Man...

Besides, I really dont understand how the gender or ethnicity of comic book heroes turned into something “grown up” people debate as some sort of serious political issue. I mean, to actually care about if Thor is male or female to the point of preparing videos about it seems like hitting rock bottom to me if you’re older than 16 or if you are not actually working on it with a professional manner as in some sociological research about popular culture etc.

When it comes to more realistic stuff though, I think it should have its limits. For instance, I just found out that BBC now has a Les Miserables with a black inspector Javert and a black police inspector in 1830’s France is almost impossible, but let’s say, against all odds, it did happen; it would have changed the whole story, people’s reactions, to what extent they’d respect him as a figure of authority, etc. So that’s just harmful to the believability of the core story, hence it should not be done. Other than cases like this, I simply dont care about the gender or ethnicity of the characters, unless there is a specific reason to care storywise. If you write quailty characters that are alive and not stereotypes, the rest will follow. I can even watch a movie  where five housewives sit in a room and discuss about their kids if it’s written well.
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posted April 23, 2019 11:31 PM
Edited by Elvin at 23:34, 23 Apr 2019.

artu said:
If it’s a fantasy world and the fiction is built well, I don’t mind. The black Spider-Man in the Spider-man multi-verse was fun for instance, so were the Spider-Woman, Spider-Man Noir, cartoon Spider-Man, anime Spider-Man, Blondie Spider-Man...

Pretty sure those are established characters. They do not swap with the 'default' because why the hell not.

[Hulk was rebooted as a sentient, chinese, supergenious.]

Lol what. Does hulk smash sound cool in Chinese at least?
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posted April 24, 2019 05:46 AM
Edited by artu at 06:05, 24 Apr 2019.

Well, I remember as a kid, they introduced the Grey Hulk and “this time” he was smart, but it didnt stick, just like “Venom” was originally introduced as the new Spider-Man costume, that didnt stick either, so they transformed “the alien costume” into a villain. Such reboots or revisions will usually backfire because people dont like their traditional heroes to change.
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posted April 24, 2019 06:07 AM

The black suit didn't make Parker a different character and was likely not intended to last. Suits come and go. I don't know about the hulk, I believe he's had more than a few alternative personalities over time. Exploring new territory like this is fine. It adds, it doesn't take away.
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posted April 24, 2019 06:27 AM

Well, I have some issues back from when it was a new thing and from what I can tell, they didnt think of the suit as something that takes over your personality in the beginning anyway, It was meant as a new look more in sync with the day’s taste and it was more practical since he didnt have to lose time wearing/hiding  it and he didnt need cartridges to shoot web anymore. Was it meant to last? Nothing’s set in stone in comics, they wait for the fan base reaction and then make something up accordingly, the stories are fillers for what catches on, so had it stuck, it was meant to last. But it didnt and some issues later Parker slowly  “discovered” the suit had a persona and was trying to take over. Rest is the Venom story.
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posted April 24, 2019 06:35 AM

Yep, just as I guessed:

The black costume first debuted in ASM #252 with the tagline "The rumors are true", affirming suspicions that Spider-Man would be getting a new costume. Before its revelation, fans rejected the idea and wrote to Marvel asking them not to change the suit. However, Marvel could not remove the black suit since Secret Wars #8-- which revealed the suit's origin-- had yet to be released.

The writers then needed to come up with a reasonable excuse for why Peter would want the symbiote removed, in order to please fans. The idea was then to have Peter to want to remove the symbiote because it was an alien lifeform that wanted to permanently bond with Peter. Upon realizing that Peter knew this, the symbiote got tighter on Peter, not wanting to remove itself from Peter's body until it was blasted off, via a sonic wave blasting gun that Mr. Fantastic had.

The problem then was, that fans actually started to like the black costume, before it was removed. So, the idea was then that Black Cat made him a non-alien cloth version that Peter could wear.

Finally, new artist Todd McFarlane made it clear to Marvel that he didn't like drawing the black suit. So, the cloth was gotten rid of by Peter as a request from Mary Jane who was terrified after being kidnapped by Venom and Peter went back to his classic red and blue costume.

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posted April 24, 2019 07:52 AM

Haha this is too good! Thanks for looking it up.
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posted April 24, 2019 09:23 AM

artu said:

Besides, I really dont understand how the gender or ethnicity of comic book heroes turned into something “grown up” people debate as some sort of serious political issue.


Welcome to the 1st world. Please have a seat.
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posted April 24, 2019 10:10 AM

Sorry, can’t stay. I have an appointment with a military coup and a cult infiltrating into judiciary and law enforcement.
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posted April 24, 2019 10:31 AM

@FriendofGunnar

I'm perfectly supportive of an Asian Hulk.
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posted April 24, 2019 10:39 AM

The Japanese for one do have a thing for green-skinned forces of nature.
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posted April 24, 2019 10:39 AM

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I can even watch a movie  where five housewives sit in a room and discuss about their kids if it’s written well.


As about other 120 millions viewers worldwide. Desperate Housewives made it to the top ten most watched series and it was exactly about that. Exceptionally well written show, top fun.

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posted April 25, 2019 08:23 AM

I'm watching Avengers: Battle of Endor on Friday. Somebody come in here and spoil it in advance please.
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posted April 25, 2019 09:33 AM

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I'm watching Avengers: Battle of Endor on Friday. Somebody come in here and spoil it in advance please.


Everyone dies, and the Night King rules supreme! Oh wait...

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posted April 25, 2019 04:26 PM

I'm watching Avengers on Tuesday. Spoilers will be met with tickling and lethal force.
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posted April 27, 2019 01:57 AM

It was an epic yarn.

don't think too hard about parts of it

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posted April 27, 2019 02:00 AM

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@FriendofGunnar

I'm perfectly supportive of an Asian Hulk.


Why can't he have his own identity instead of being just being Incredible Hulk 2.0?

For example he could call himself the Ching Chong Bopper.  And he only gets angry when he gets on social media, so his teammates bring a cellie with them so that he can check facebook whenever they need him to start smashing things.  Also he could be yellow instead of green.

See that, in just one minute I came up with a better character than a hulk carbon copy.

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posted April 27, 2019 12:20 PM

Ching Chong Bopper sounds like a male prostitute with an opioid addiction, that's why.
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posted April 30, 2019 06:14 PM

Sonic trailer

Rated as, wtf is this snow.
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posted April 30, 2019 06:22 PM

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Sonic trailer

Rated as, wtf is this snow.


That's gotta be one of the worst things I've seen so far in this year...

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