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posted April 16, 2019 09:08 PM |
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Kipshasz said: I wonder if Shia Le Bouf will be in the new indie movie, or is he locked up in an insane asylum because of /pol/?
I read up on it today just because it came up - due to (very) negative public reception, neither the actor, nor the character, will be part of the next movie .
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posted April 17, 2019 08:23 AM |
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Once you pass a few million there's not a whole lot to do with money. He can cash a check and buy some random house he'll never sleep in or some extra boat he'll never ride in. He's not interested.
Celebrity worship is usually a burden to celebrities, for good reason. It's unhealthy behavior.
Harrison Ford has specifically said he's not big on Star Wars. Indiana Jones is a completely different character and doesn't attract creepy worshipers the way Star Wars does. He wanted Han Solo to be killed off.
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posted April 17, 2019 12:21 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 12:23, 17 Apr 2019.
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Yeah I can actually understand that (not being a millionaire myself, it's just not surprising fame has its downfalls). What I meant is that sometimes and actor doesn't want to be linked with a single role all his life, but then again if another occasion to play the said role arises and the actor is currently in a financial slump, he might very well "generously" accept it. I don't know what is the case with Ford though, I heard he lives quite a level-headed celebrity life.
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posted April 18, 2019 08:26 AM |
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I watched Hellboy (2019). Mediocre.
It did make me want to rewatch Del Toro's duology though.
Also watched Mortal Engines. It's sad because I loved the steampunk setting and there is so much potential here, but unfortunately it had many problems and I don't think a lot of people were ever interested in seeing it. It's hard for sci fi to break out of niche markets unless it's already super well established, like Larry Potter or Duke of the Rings.
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posted April 18, 2019 09:50 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:52, 18 Apr 2019.
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Blizzardboy said: Also watched Mortal Engines. It's sad because I loved the steampunk setting and there is so much potential here, but unfortunately it had many problems and I don't think a lot of people were ever interested in seeing it. It's hard for sci fi to break out of niche markets unless it's already super well established, like Larry Potter or Duke of the Rings.
Yeah it's sad because I still think Jackson is a great director, but it seems he can't get out of the shadow of LotR trilogy. Lovely Bones was ok, I very much liked Hobbit trilogy (although the general public gave it a hard time) and didn't watch Mortal Engines, but the reactions are grim.
I really hope he picks up on that Temeraire deal. It would be sweet if it was coupled with Netflix or HBO budget for instance, optimal as a TV series...
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posted April 18, 2019 09:58 AM |
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Blob: I think if you watched Mortal Engines you would have a good time. I did. It's sad that we won't be seeing more of them.
But I'm also not surprised that it bombed. It tried to swallow too much at once. I think it would have been way more successful if it worked on a smaller budget and spent more time with the characters.
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posted April 18, 2019 11:17 AM |
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Blizzardboy said: Blob: I think if you watched Mortal Engines you would have a good time. I did. It's sad that we won't be seeing more of them.
Yeah, whenever an action/fantasy movie is bombed, it turns out I for one like it very much. Against all those middle-aged white male critics hate For example I still think Van Helsing (2004) is one of the best monster action movies despite its mediocre reception (it didn't bomb per se, but Universal didn't continue their "classic monster revival" scheme).
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Elvin
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posted April 18, 2019 02:00 PM |
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Van Helsing was awesome, what's not to like
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posted April 19, 2019 02:17 AM |
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I watched Waterloo from 1970, it was a very good movie, once again, it made me realize that today, most movies’ problem is not taking their time when they should. The battle scenes were naturally the most outdated aspect, sometimes they even felt like a school play when people kept dropping to the ground with no blood at all etc, but you adjust to such details quite quickly if the story has a well-built arc, and this one did.
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posted April 19, 2019 08:22 AM |
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Van Helsing. Ugh. That movie was bad Dracula/Over Actor turned into a big CGI bat and Hugh Jackman turned into a giant CGI werepuppy and they fought each other in a super lame battle. It would have been way cooler if The Predator showed up at the end in a space ship.
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posted April 19, 2019 09:02 AM |
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Yes well they went a bit too overboard by the end
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posted April 19, 2019 09:29 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:30, 19 Apr 2019.
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Blizzardboy said: Van Helsing. Ugh. That movie was bad
For me personally both Dracula bat-form and Werewolves were the best depictions of said creatures I've ever seen in a movie (well if I would be picky I would only like a tail for the werewolf). This movie was like a full-blown game and that is what's best about it. Bad CGI? And how do you create such monsters? From rubber?
I will never accept any trashing of this movie. It was super cool, case closed. The only movie that rivals it with "how I would make a monster movie" is Sleepy Hollow. And maybe Solomon Kane. And Bram Stokers Dracula ofc.
Go watch Twilight or sth...
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posted April 19, 2019 09:58 AM |
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How do you have a battle?
By having Dracula and Van Helsing fight each with swords / weapons. They don't need to go into Power Rangers mode and turn into giant CGI spirit animals. Dracula is already awesome by simply being Dracula. He doesn't need to turn into a stupid bat monster.
As for the werewolf, this is Jack Nicholson from a 1994 movie "Wolf" as a werewolf and he looks awesome:
Hugh Jackman is a good actor. He doesn't need to turn into a CGI monster.
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posted April 19, 2019 10:13 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:17, 19 Apr 2019.
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Blizzardboy said: They don't need to go into Power Rangers mode and turn into giant CGI spirit animals. Dracula is already awesome by simply being Dracula. He doesn't need to turn into a stupid bat monster.
I agree that Dracula is cool as a character. But the whole point of what made Van Helsing so cool in my eyes is that it went overboard and depicted them as full-blown monsters. Not BORING humans with rubber masks, like this:
or oversized wolves like this:
But this is purely a matter of personal preferences. Nothing more. I like animal-like (spirit animals as you called them) full-blown monsters way better then humans with teeth and overgrown hair in horror/action movies. And there's this whole aesthetic: creepy east European villages, atmospheric castles and forests. Putting monsters in modern settings is less attractive for me. What I like is gothic horror. Van Helsing movie is like Innistrad, my favourite MtG setting. And if you look closely, there aren't actually that many high budget movies in such settings (18-19th century). The only one I can remember atm is "Brotherhood of the Wolf". There just isn't anything like Van Helsing currently and for that fact I can turn a blind eye for some of its cliches.
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posted April 19, 2019 11:36 AM |
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Van Helsing was just a popcorn movie, not the worst popcorn movie ever but nothing worth remembering either. Oh, wait, I loved how Mr. Hyde said “we all have our problems” and chewed his cigar afterwards. That scene was funny.
If you want to see a good werewolf fight, check out the Netflix show Love, Death & Robots, the episode called Shape-shifters.
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posted April 19, 2019 11:53 AM |
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Solomon Kane? I know I have seen it but I don't remember anything about it. No, I remember that it looked good but that it did not deliver.
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posted April 19, 2019 12:14 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 12:17, 19 Apr 2019.
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artu said: Van Helsing was just a popcorn movie, not the worst popcorn movie ever but nothing worth remembering either. Oh, wait, I loved how Mr. Hyde said “we all have our problems” and chewed his cigar afterwards. That scene was funny.
Well daa. But why can't a popcorn movie be judged for what it is, and it's good in what it is doing. And it can be remembered also, you don't need a smart or deep movie for it to be worth remembering.
artu said: If you want to see a good werewolf fight, check out the Netflix show Love, Death & Robots, the episode called Shape-shifters.
Seen it. Very good indeed as a "werewolf" animation, but unfortunately the whole Afghanistan setting is quite dull.
@Elvin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR0Uo6YNb4E
The movie had some serious distribution issues (its release dates between various countries were incredibly stretched), I think it wasn't even played in cinema. I know because I was quite interested in it back in the day when I first heard about it (it is based on Robert E. Howards work) and there were huge delays in its release. But it's a solid movie imo nevertheless, quite atmospheric. It is set in "Puritan" America, but was filmed in Czechia
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posted April 19, 2019 12:34 PM |
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@blob
I’m not suggesting the movie isnt Citizen Kane, I’m suggesting it isnt even memorable within its own genre.
I think the Afghanistan setting and the whole “werewolf soldiers” concept was handled pretty well.
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posted April 19, 2019 01:41 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 13:50, 19 Apr 2019.
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artu said: @blob
I’m not suggesting the movie isnt Citizen Kane, I’m suggesting it isnt even memorable within its own genre.
Well, for me it is, and that's that. Memorable that is ;P And what genre are we actually talking about? Action? Horror? Or gothic horror which doesn't exactly have that many examples to benchmark it with... But guess for each his own, you don't need to explain to me why you don't like the movie
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posted April 20, 2019 10:30 PM |
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Watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and it was great. I loved the conflict of ideals and Nicholson is simply magnetic in his role. His energy and enthusiasm is infectious.
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