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Elvin
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posted September 25, 2009 11:16 PM |
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I wish, microeconomics tomorrow at 8 
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 25, 2009 11:27 PM |
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Ouch  Saturday exams are a (word that I never counted as profanity but the forum's code does). I've had a few. Well, break a leg!
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 26, 2009 06:37 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 21:10, 29 Sep 2009.
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MATCHUPS!!
Vlaad vs eldERaNe
Bliz vs Elvin
StormGiant vs Azagal
Tann vs Shardik
rottenvenetic vs Godulio
Zamfir vs corcoran
Larry - veco
Good luck guys, you start whenever you feel ready  Bliz since I can't see you gimme a nudge when you have the time.
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veco
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who am I?
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posted September 26, 2009 07:48 PM |
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I bet Bliz will love you for this
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tann_141
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posted September 26, 2009 08:07 PM |
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i hope i can get the fights done today.. because today is the only day i can do it XD
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
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On the Other Side!
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posted September 26, 2009 11:36 PM |
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Azagal, I added you on my msn list, I hope I can see tomorrow conected in the afternoon. Since I'll be busy some days during the week(uni), I need to know when we can play the duels
PD: Elvin, my nick is Storm-Giant, no StormGiant
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 26, 2009 11:39 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 23:43, 26 Sep 2009.
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Azagal has a few problems himself lately so I doubt he'll be free immediately.
About the games don't start just yet, I want to try something on the map balance.
Give me one or two days, sorry for the inconvenience
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Storm-Giant
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On the Other Side!
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posted September 26, 2009 11:51 PM |
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Quote:
Azagal has a few problems himself lately so I doubt he'll be free immediately.
Will wait then.
Quote:
About the games don't start just yet, I want to try something on the map balance.
Give me one or two days, sorry for the inconvenience
No problems, as long as the game is more fair
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2009 01:11 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 01:13, 29 Sep 2009.
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Some of you already knew but I was testing a new version the past few days. Not much is new, however the sphinx now gives lvl 18 and less resources are available for arcane library. That changes the whole balance, hopefully for the best
My intent was to slow down the action, make the map more tactical. And indeed now you cannot have everything, if for instance sylvan goes retribution and light they will be forced to leave something behind, be it offensive or defensive. Likewise the spellpower of magic factions decreases which makes things a little more balanced for factions like orcs or inferno against necro. I cannot guarantee perfect balance but I hope this is a step in the right direction.
Now..
INTO THE FRAY!!
TOH Duel@18
Azagal should be able to play the other day or so.
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tann_141
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posted September 29, 2009 07:30 AM |
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personally i thought the map was pretty balanced already, with this change - while definitely interesting- it changes the dynamic to favor might factions.
i guess there is no way to be sure than by just playing it out and see what happens  if anything, unit amounts may have to be tweaked a little bit
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 29, 2009 02:25 PM |
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Well, if it's all for the greater good...
(NWA members chant: "The greater good!")
But might factions still get to take out 1-2 stacks, or render them inconsequential, before the enemy can respond in this setup 
There's a risk that Academy will get shafted badly and Dungeon will be forced to go might all the way, which isn't natural to them.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2009 02:28 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 21:12, 29 Sep 2009.
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To avoid misunderstandings the version we play was posted in this page, forgot to update the masterpost. Remember to all join the same hamachi network:
Hamachi Network: Temple Duels
Pass: 123
Anyone having issues let me know but be sure to both have the same map in the folder, no other custom maps in and no mods. Only skin mods seem to work online and the xazardous ones.
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SKPRIMUS
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posted September 30, 2009 12:06 AM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 02:02, 30 Sep 2009.
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Indeed, changing to lvl 18 is controversial but ofc it's easier for the non-elite (like me) to express opinion thru actual battle replay than just thoughts...
- what are the changes to number of creatures compared to last version?
- why particular race now favoured - show by replays/builds?
light/dark mass spells are not affected as much as summoning/dest magic/might skills(especially if one doesn't choose exp luck anymore) --> that could possibly favour light academy or when one gets RM/haste/cleansing/endurance???
btw, it cannot be completely balanced unless Elvin makes custom army sizes for each INDIVIDUAL hero vs hero matchup because each hero is different, if assuming 8 heroes for 8 factions, that's like 282016 different combination of army numbers...[this doesn't mean I support or not support the change]
no official replays yet, maybe everyone just rpactising?
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Elvin
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posted September 30, 2009 12:13 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 00:27, 30 Sep 2009.
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I have some interesting replays, will post tomorrow. But army is the same and it seems to be fine this way. There has been some issue with the merchant system so the next version will feature a different one.. Can't share many details right now since I'm hard-pressed, so many things to do.
On that note please wait until I fix the issue on the map, I should have it tomorrow afternoon. Since Vlaad and Elderane already played one game they should play their second match with Vlaad playing red.
This time the issue is Nival related
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blizzardboy
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posted September 30, 2009 01:02 AM |
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Fun map. I'm surprised you kept some of the campaign heroes in it though, especially Agrael for Inferno: +18% creature initiative from first to last round is brutal, especially when you stack it with Power of Speed. But I guess time will tell.
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Elvin
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posted September 30, 2009 01:19 AM |
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Nah I nerfed him quite a bit His total bonus at lvl 18 is around 5% so it only gives +1 init to units with 13+ initiative. About the issue I mentioned earlier player 1 almost always seems to get relics while player blue almost never, beats me why that even happens. That is why I'll have to redesign the system and remove merchants  But the alternative is more balanced as you will see.
Three areas with 1 relic, 2 major and 3 minor arties and you can only choose one. Cases where you get overabundance of spellpower or attack arties will not be getting in the way of gameplay but on the other hand since you can pick the area you won't have bad luck with arties. Well unless all 3 suck
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SKPRIMUS
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posted September 30, 2009 02:14 AM |
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...This time the issue is Nival related
Wouldn't surprise me if there are MORE non-confirmed issues related to game engine/software like when morale/luck/ethereal misses happen, who hosts game, 2% skills popping up etc [as well as one that I've already mentioned privately, I highly doubt the game's random number generator]...this is crazy for all of us [but luckily temple forumers don't really care who wins & play for fun]
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"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 30, 2009 06:08 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 22:16, 30 Sep 2009.
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Since Towerlord found the solution I went with the existing merchant system except this time you have to teleport to a separate area. Now both merchants will give a relic, should be interesting Keep in mind that the only way to return from artifact area is that town portal scroll.
Temple Duel!
Orcs can't use town portal, please use the link in the next post.
Bliz where are you?
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 30, 2009 09:10 PM |
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Hey, there's 5 people in the network atm including myself, unfortunately no Godulio but we'll find each other sooner or later. Anyone else interested in a few bloody battles where hundreds of fantasy creatures that we don't even have any of in the real world will get murdered for no reason? 
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 30, 2009 10:15 PM |
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I messed up badly, forgot that orcs cannot town portal back Vlaad my sincerest apologies, please don't quit because of that.
Fixed version
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