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Berny-Mac
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posted October 14, 2009 11:56 PM

well, we can start off with the main story, we really dont have anything outside of Axeoth yet.
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posted October 15, 2009 12:43 PM

ok...erm... maybe sandro goes to...erm...a city and...gets some coffee?

god, it's too early and i've got too much work to do.
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posted October 15, 2009 08:54 PM

How about this:

While Sandro and his undead forces roam the lands seeking for a place to call home, High Inquisitor Molland of the Deinan Church notices the undead and sends out an army led by the knight, Sir Gavino, to vanquish the undead. However, the the peacekeeping nagas of the land seek to stop the army, wishing to accept the undead's way of life and welcome them to the world.

It sucks, but its something, what'chu got?
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posted October 16, 2009 10:52 AM

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How about this:

While Sandro and his undead forces roam the lands seeking for a place to call home, High Inquisitor Molland of the Deinan Church notices the undead and sends out an army led by the knight, Sir Gavino, to vanquish the undead. However, the the peacekeeping nagas of the land seek to stop the army, wishing to accept the undead's way of life and welcome them to the world.

It sucks, but its something, what'chu got?


it could be interesting... but how about we make Sandro a right evil nut. you know, the kind who would betray everyone and is following his own plan. basically, in the campaign, you'll be playing as a guy who is completely mercenary and knows it, willing to step over everyone in order to get what he wants.
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posted October 16, 2009 09:12 PM

Like a mercenary who leads undead armies? Interesting...
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posted October 16, 2009 10:06 PM

more like the absolute worst politician, a lying theiving scoundrel who has zero empathy.
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posted October 16, 2009 10:17 PM

sounds like my kinda guy...I was also thinking that Varus is more honorable and discipline based, but very loyal to Sandro.
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posted October 19, 2009 09:50 AM
Edited by bixie at 13:11, 19 Oct 2009.

yeah... we could do a running gag that he always refers to Sandro as "Honourable master" even when his master is going really despicable things.

Per Example

Sandro: Very well then, we will attack the orcs through that feild of baby seals. they will never expect that!

Varus: yes of course, honourable master!

alternatively

Sandro: Right, I need money, you!

random woman: yes?

Sandro: Give me your money!

Random woman: ok, here

Sandro: Oh and I want your babies sweets! Varus, take them.

Varus: yes, honourable master!

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posted October 19, 2009 10:05 PM

Totally ridiculous examples, but I like it!

Anyways, should we incorporate the other factions into the story as well or not? I don't think we should include all of them or else it would look like a Homm5 mash-up storyline. Maybe have some factions be from different mercenary groups or something, but not a campaign storyline for every single faction.
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posted October 20, 2009 11:14 AM
Edited by bixie at 18:28, 22 Oct 2009.

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Totally ridiculous examples, but I like it!


and what's wrong with that?

one of the thinks that has annoyed me about the Homm series is the TOTAL LACK OF HUMOUR!!!!! there's so much to mock, I mean, the generic fantasy world, the generic fantasy stories, it would be so much more interesting, I feel, if the entire action was played either tongue in cheek or self-piss-taking.

Quote:

Anyways, should we incorporate the other factions into the story as well or not? I don't think we should include all of them or else it would look like a Homm5 mash-up storyline. Maybe have some factions be from different mercenary groups or something, but not a campaign storyline for every single faction.


ok, fair enough.

edit: Also, all elves must speak in scouser accents
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posted October 22, 2009 06:35 PM

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one of the thinks that has annoyed me about the Homm series is the TOTAL LACK OF HUMOUR!!!!! there's so much to mock, I mean, the generic fantasy world, the generic fantasy stories, it would be so much more interesting, I feel, if the entire action was played either tongue in cheek or self-piss-taking.


Heroes V with Zehir and his insufferable wisecracks acts as the archetypical case-in-point for proving that self-piss-taking can utterly degrade a storyline. Anyway I'd point you to Might and Magic 1-5 and order you to "TAKE THAT BACK", but it's your thread, isn't it.
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posted October 22, 2009 06:38 PM

yeah, I agree with Cephy on this one, though there may be room for some humor, please don't incorporate it into the storyline. That'd just make it ridiculous.
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posted October 22, 2009 06:56 PM

no... why not make it ridiculous!

are you suggesting that good stories can't have humour? have you read anything by terry pratchet? Have you watched red dwarf? quite frankly, some of the best fantasy universes, to my mind, are ones with humour in it! and not just having a single wizard who looks like a cheap justin timberlake making wisecracks like his bob f***ing hope!

seriously! the storyline would probably be so much better if we try and take the piss out of the fantasy world we create, where we take the mick out of every cliche there is (and the Heroes series is nothing if not short of cliches!). have a dwarf who doesn't like going underground, a few vampire rebels who insist on getting suntans, have a dashing hero who always needs to run off early as he's got magically activated hives, have an empire with maddening beauracy and have dark elves whose soul motivation for turn was... well, they used the wrong stuff to wash their hair and now it's black.

I mean, Come on! if we play it for laughs, we might have the best H6 ever!
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posted October 22, 2009 07:02 PM

Well, if use more intellectual humor, I think it may work. The examples you gave are...well...ridiculous. Too ridiculous. Say Voronir (Sandro's apprentice) is trying to convince the people of the new world that they (Necropolis faction) are merely trying to find their place in the world and blah blah blah, but he's doing it wrong. But Sandro does a facepalm and says "I don't have time for this, kill them!" and they kill them. That's more like it.
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posted October 22, 2009 07:13 PM

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Well, if use more intellectual humor, I think it may work. The examples you gave are...well...ridiculous. Too ridiculous. Say Voronir (Sandro's apprentice) is trying to convince the people of the new world that they (Necropolis faction) are merely trying to find their place in the world and blah blah blah, but he's doing it wrong. But Sandro does a facepalm and says "I don't have time for this, kill them!" and they kill them. That's more like it.


well, that would work, but.... at the same time, I think having...

have you ever played any game by a guy called Tim Schafer? that's the sort of humour we could aim for. not nessecary slapstick (though if used correctly, it can be absolutely hilarious), but quick lines, sarcasm, varying degrees of references...

I think we are approaching this from two different angles. your trying to write a serious story for a fantasy work, whilst I'm thinking "another fantasy world... why not take the piss out of conventions?" some people revel in conventional fantasy elements, but, quiet frankly, it doesn't move the genre forward, nor does it make the game stand out. adding alot of humour, on the other hand, will probably make it not only stand out, but liven the story up, and make the characters relatable rather than the traditional fantasy stereotypes.

All I'm saying is that maybe we shouldn't approach this with serious helmets on... maybe approach it with clown noses...or fruit hats.
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posted October 22, 2009 07:16 PM

hmmm...interesting, perhaps it will work, but we're not having a faction based off of food and laziness!
Sarcasm? Good.
Irony? Great.
Comical reference? Excellent.
Slapstick? Good if used properly.

Alright, fine, but you orchestrate it. I'll get to work on the units and stats (sigh...).

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posted October 22, 2009 08:40 PM

Hey, I'm gonna send you my spreadsheet of the Keep lineup. Can you give me your email address so that I can give the attachment to you? Thanks.
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posted October 22, 2009 09:48 PM
Edited by bixie at 12:28, 27 Oct 2009.

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hmmm...interesting, perhaps it will work, but we're not having a faction based off of food and laziness!
Sarcasm? Good.
Irony? Great.
Comical reference? Excellent.
Slapstick? Good if used properly.

Alright, fine, but you orchestrate it. I'll get to work on the units and stats (sigh...).



alright....

ok, so

"you have found a fairy grove, the fairy offers you a pot of gold in order to shut up about her marujauna patch. do you accept the gold, or get toked up in order to learm more magic?"

"you are suprised by a leprechaun.
"oh, bless me boots, lad, you caught me, i'm going have have to give you me crock o' gold!"
you beat the nasty little irish stereotype into the ground and nick his gold"

"honestly, i don't know what to say at this point... I mean, you've found an obelisk, whoop-de-doo, what are you expecting, the secret of the grail? now get lost before I call security."

or, to shatter the fourth wall completely

Dungeon warlock: fear the wrath of the cavern kingdoms, lowly mortal! for we are unstoppable, powerful, and get stronger in adversity.
sandro: so basically your saying that your into bondage.
warlock: what?
sandro: well look around you! troglodytes in gimp masks, minotaurs with ball gags, enough leather to confuse cows, and the whole "Getting stronger in adversity." more importantly, what are you wearing!
Warlock: this is the robe of high office, marking me out as a warlock of the highest...
Sandro: no, you look like a goth kid who decided to have some fun with fashion design... this totally screws the whole situation up. I mean, We, the undead, we're the goth lot! all about death, and pain, and plagues, most of the units are depressing and down. Even our music sounds like its out of phantom of the f****** opera. we don't need a bunch of hoity-toity dark elves muscling in on our show!
Warlock: Oh shut up you old skeleton, we've had this stuff for years, and now you come in, claiming that you have a history behind it. Get lost before I set the minotaurs on you!
Sandro: alright, fine, next time we see you, you lot are going down.


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posted November 14, 2009 03:09 PM
Edited by Berny-Mac at 15:14, 14 Nov 2009.

Faction Unit Attack Defense Damage Range Initiative Speed Health Mana Shots Special Abilities Cost
Keep Peasant 1 1 1 – 2 8 3 4 0 0 Taxpayer 10 gold
Keep Serf 1 1 1 – 2 10 4 4 0 0 Taxpayer, and Repair 15 gold
Keep Conscript 2 1 2 – 3 8 4 4 0 0 Taxpayer 15 gold
Keep Militia 1 2 1 – 3 10 3 5 0 0 Taxpayer 15 gold
Keep Archer 3 2 2 – 5 9 3 8 0 10 Shooter, and Volley 35 Gold
Keep Marksman 5 2 5 – 6 8 5 10 0 10 Shooter, Precise Shot, and No Ranged Penalty 48 gold
Keep Longbowman 5 3 2 – 10 9 4 10 0 12 Shooter, No Ranged Penalty, and Volley 48 gold
Keep Battle Archer 4 5 3 – 7 11 4 12 0 10 Shooter, No Melee Penalty, and Volley 48 gold
Keep Spearman 6 8 8 – 12 8 3 18 0 0 Pikes 80 gold
Keep Pilumer 8 8 8 – 16 10 4 20 0 5 Pikes, Shooter, and No Retaliation 120 gold
Keep Halberdier 10 8 10 – 15 9 4 20 0 0 Pikes, Cleave, and No Retaliation 120 gold
Keep Pikeman 7 10 8 – 13 8 4 23 0 0 Pikes, and Unlimited Retaliation 120 gold
Keep Squire 12 14 12 – 18 9 5 32 0 0 Large Shield, and Bash 200 gold
Keep Swordsman 15 14 8 – 20 11 6 38 0 0 Cleave, Bash, and Double Attack 280 gold
Keep Vindicator 17 14 12 – 20 10 5 43 0 0 Large Shield, Bash, and Cleave 280 gold
Keep Crusader 12 16 12 – 16 10 5 48 0 0 Large Shield, Shield Allies, and Bash 280 gold
Keep Cleric 18 15 18 – 20 11 4 55 12 8 Shooter, Bless, and Cleanse 400 gold
Keep Inquisitor 20 16 20 – 22 11 5 65 15 10 Shooter, No Melee Penalty, Bless, Righteous Might, and Haste 650 gold
Keep Zealot 23 16 20 – 25 11 5 65 12 8 Shooter, Bless, Cleanse, and Divine Strength 650 gold
Keep High Priest 20 18 18 – 25 10 5 70 12 12 Shooter, Ranged Retaliation, Bless, Cleanse, and Haste 650 gold
Keep Cavalier 25 20 26 – 30 13 8 100 0 0 Mounted, Joust, and Large 800 gold
Keep Paladin 26 26 30 – 32 12 8 130 5 0 Mounted, Joust, Large, and Lay Hands 900 gold
Keep Champion 30 23 35 – 42 13 9 130 0 0 Mounted, Joust, Large, and Champion Charge 900 gold
Keep Knight 28 28 28 – 40 12 8 135 0 0 Mounted, Joust, Large, and Aura of Bravery 900
gold


this would be totally easier if you could give me your email address so that could just give you the attachment instead of this transgulated mess.
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