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posted March 11, 2010 11:03 PM |
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Oh, please. Smuggle cigarettes and moonshined Vodka like every decent person in Poland does. Then lift the odd car and you got yourself a career.
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posted March 11, 2010 11:50 PM |
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Doomforge, if you don't want to work, don't expect to succeed.
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posted March 12, 2010 02:19 AM |
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I don't want to work (well, not the way most people would understand) but I hope I can succeed, at least a little bit (again, not the way most people would understand, I wouldn't do it for money or fame for example, but it's something which would help)
and I may move too. but not for work, for people.
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posted March 12, 2010 08:03 AM |
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easy to get 40 bucks an hour? I dont think so, the majority I know would drop their jaws in awe if someone told them they make 40 an hour.
Roofing if anyone was unaware is not an easy job by far. I am sure anyone making 40 bucks an hour is very proficient in all related tasks on the roof or ground. I worked a few roofs at around 10 bucks an hour and it is generally kind of basic stuff to learn. However even though basic it takes a true workhorse to be dependable enough to for instance be left there with a couple of grunts alone, or evenetually become a participating contractor. The type to make 40 an hour would have a lot of qualities and be dependable as well. When the basic grunts get tired and cry about its 6:30 PM and their ***** hurts to much to wrap up the remaining parts of the job even though it would take 2 hours and its gonna rain tomorrow, I would imagine the expert would get the job done on his/her own.
okay i never met a female roofer but I had to throw that in to be fair lol.
but not to mention have you ever done intensive physical work in any situation where you had to use both hands often while on a ladder type of terrain holding yourself up with the strength of your legs pushing your lower back against some of the wood that can from time to time be rotting and give out? Gotta have two hands on some of the tasks up there. Bottom line here is it is not an easy job to master + it can be very dangerous as well.
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posted March 12, 2010 11:25 AM |
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Oh, please. Smuggle cigarettes and moonshined Vodka like every decent person in Poland does. Then lift the odd car and you got yourself a career.
 hey I'm not saying everybody did it, or that anybody still gets rich by doing so. yet there was time when smuggling was absolutely awesome because of the lack of ANYTHING on the post-socialism market. My friend's uncle was selling jeans for example, buying them across the border and selling them on local marketplace, the profit was so high he was able to build a nice house 2 years later. Try to do it now - no chance  )
Mvass, let's skip the capitalistic talk, not really necessary here  Work has nothing to do with success, assuming you think of materialistic success, and that's not what I'm talking about.
Thanks for the info Celf.
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posted March 12, 2010 01:12 PM |
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Work has nothing to do with success
Maybe this attitude is the reason why so many people in poland have "nothing"?
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posted March 12, 2010 02:17 PM |
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This isn't a common attitude here. On the contrary, actually...
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posted March 12, 2010 03:02 PM |
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mvass, by "work" I assume going 8 hours to an office, 4 of which you browse facebook, and you get a $3000-$4000 per month salary?
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posted March 12, 2010 03:14 PM |
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That would be so-not-mvass  I rather think he means a solid 10-12h of hard working. Procrastinating and browsing facebook + mvass = doesn't work. Workaholic + mvass = hell yeah )
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posted March 12, 2010 03:18 PM |
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Not my point was rather that I usually find the people who work at aforementioned offices, getting a fat income (for the work), who try to give "lessons" to the rest on working 
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posted March 12, 2010 03:31 PM |
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@Doomforge
Work has everything to do with success. Do you expect to become successful by sitting on your arse all day doing bugger all? lol
If I've misinterpreted your post then I do apologise.
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posted March 12, 2010 03:42 PM |
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Work has everything to do with success. Do you expect to become successful by sitting on your arse all day doing bugger all? lol
Unless you start your own business, that's half of what successful means. You will NOT get successful with hard work. Most people who are successful only work 4 hour per day or less at an aforementioned "office", the rest they browse the internet.
What is "heavy work" for you that "is successful"? Seeing as the salary here, for most hard-working people who actually WORK eight or more hours per day, is less than $1000, what is it that they don't do to deserve $3000-$4000?
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posted March 12, 2010 04:21 PM |
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Work has everything to do with success. Do you expect to become successful by sitting on your arse all day doing bugger all? lol
If I've misinterpreted your post then I do apologise.
Perhaps I wrote it in a confusing matter...
I don't exactly mean doing nothing and waiting for social cash.
I only mean that everybody is working. It's not something magical, it's just what every person does (well I wouldn't call doing stuff I love work even if I earned money for it, but that's another matter...). And is everyone successful? nope. Success imho is more about the idea, luck, connections, brilliant mind perhaps. Those are the things you _need_. Do you need work? I may be wrong, but I don't really think so. Some people got successful simply by getting the right idea, then selling the rights, or something similar. Not exactly your every day from-nine-to-five guy.
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posted March 12, 2010 05:45 PM |
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Work has everything to do with success. Do you expect to become successful by sitting on your arse all day doing bugger all? lol
Unless you start your own business, that's half of what successful means. You will NOT get successful with hard work. Most people who are successful only work 4 hour per day or less at an aforementioned "office", the rest they browse the internet.
Lol....how many successfull people do you know? You really think every manager just works 4 hours a day?
Come on...
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posted March 12, 2010 06:05 PM |
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Lol....how many successfull people do you know?
Not many, obviously. But that wasn't my point. My point was that I know plenty of hard-working people who are NOT successful AND that I know few who are successful only doing 4 hours per day of work (of course they have to stay 8 hours officially).
Well of course, seeing as the average salary is less than $1000, I think it says for itself, that hard work has nothing to do with salary.
Unless you're a judge, where you get a fat income  (at least here)
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posted March 12, 2010 06:14 PM |
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Manager is hardly a successful person imho, yes he earns a fair pay (in western countries ), but he works a lot and there is a lot of stress in his work. Idk if the money is worth the stress and constant lack of time.
but each of us has a different vision of success.
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posted March 12, 2010 06:27 PM |
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yeah, what do you call success?
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posted March 12, 2010 06:51 PM |
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but each of us has a different vision of success.
Claiming a goal....reaching that goal --> success.
I think this formula is quite easy
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posted March 12, 2010 08:03 PM |
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I love how you people think I'm hardworking.
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Not my point was rather that I usually find the people who work at aforementioned offices, getting a fat income (for the work), who try to give "lessons" to the rest on working
They had to work to get there, though.
And I'm more referring to other people I know - ones that came to America, worked (and still work) 10+ hours a day, and now make quite a decent amount of money.
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You should do something you like and makes money. If the two do not coincide, you will either be poor or waste at least 8 hours a day.
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posted March 12, 2010 08:23 PM |
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And I'm more referring to other people I know - ones that came to America, worked (and still work) 10+ hours a day, and now make quite a decent amount of money.
And the question remains, is that income (which is still a JOKE compared to what REALLY rich people get) worth sacrificing ALL your time (10+ hours is a lot)? What's the use for money if you don't even have time to spend it?
I think it's so not worth it.
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If the two do not coincide, you will either be poor or waste at least 8 hours a day.
or both
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