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SkrentyzMienty
SkrentyzMienty


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posted April 25, 2011 03:58 PM

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2)Ghost - BEAUTIFUL Concept Art! But the in-game model's hair lost all of it's charm, it looks greasy and too short, besides it should be flowing upwards. Also, they should graphically enhance the robe so it actually looks ghostly and transparent, not like stretched chewing gum.


It's not all that bad.

Oh, this looks pretty good I was looking at the model on Ubisoft's official website, maybe it was just an early one.

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Willis
Willis


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posted April 25, 2011 04:43 PM

I do find the design of the Sister a bit confusing considering that it seems like she will be quite active in melee combat. She can only cast healing twice, last I heard. I guess I should be grateful they didn't put her in a chain mail bikini.

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Avirosb
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posted April 25, 2011 04:56 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 16:56, 25 Apr 2011.

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Oh, this looks pretty good I was looking at the model on Ubisoft's official website, maybe it was just an early one.

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's the real deal, only without the fancy graphic effects.

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The_Polyglot
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posted April 25, 2011 06:36 PM

@Willis:

Keep in mind that the company who greenlighted the Sister's design, is the same one which thought fat peasants in a medieval setting would be a great idea.

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razor5
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posted April 25, 2011 08:46 PM

I saw that lot of people complain about the Coral Priestess instead of Medusa. Here is my 'theory', and that's why I said the Coral Priestess is better.

First of all, the Sanctuary are a water-based faction. In the Greek mythology, the Medusa isn't a water creature, you can verify that here. It doesn't look like a water creature, and nowhere says that she is water related. Maybe she is a little, but not too much to make her an Elite creature in the Sanctuary.

If you check any Medusa from previous HoMM games, you'll see that she is a neutral creature (H2) , Dungeon/Asylum (H3/H4) . Now tell me, do you think this towns are related to water like the Sanctuary from H6 is ?

The Priestess is better, it looks like a water creature , and by its prefixes 'Coral' and 'Pearl' make her more water-based.

Now about the Sister. I think it's better than the priest because ... she is a woman I mean, what's the problem if she's a woman ? Is she inferior or what ? Or some of you like the guys better ? Just kidding, but I really don't know why some of you hate her. Maybe she's not such a great improvement, but it's welcome As far as I know, the Priests from HoMM hadn't got so many fans so, as I said above, the Sister is welcome to be the new support creature for Haven.

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Avirosb
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posted April 25, 2011 08:57 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 21:00, 25 Apr 2011.

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I mean, what's the problem if she's a woman ? Is she inferior or what?
No, my problem is that the 3D model deviates too much from the concept art. I don't like the H5 priest in design either, for the record.

But yeah, there are bigger offenders out there.
Such as the hellshrimp.

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Willis
Willis


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posted April 25, 2011 09:53 PM

I didn't really have a problem with the look of the Sister until I found out she is a melee unit and can only cast heal a couple times. I assumed she would be ranged and/or be able to cast a lot more. She doesn't really look like a unit that should cross the field for melee combat. It's not really a big deal, but there's not that much else to talk about.

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MrDragon
MrDragon


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posted April 25, 2011 10:06 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 22:12, 25 Apr 2011.

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I saw that lot of people complain about the Coral Priestess instead of Medusa. Here is my 'theory', and that's why I said the Coral Priestess is better.

First of all, the Sanctuary are a water-based faction. In the Greek mythology, the Medusa isn't a water creature, you can verify that here. It doesn't look like a water creature, and nowhere says that she is water related. Maybe she is a little, but not too much to make her an Elite creature in the Sanctuary.

If you check any Medusa from previous HoMM games, you'll see that she is a neutral creature (H2) , Dungeon/Asylum (H3/H4) . Now tell me, do you think this towns are related to water like the Sanctuary from H6 is ?

The Priestess is better, it looks like a water creature , and by its prefixes 'Coral' and 'Pearl' make her more water-based.


I think the beef many (including myself) have with the Coral Maiden is not about how well one or the other fits in the faction.
The Medusa could easily be styled to fit into the faction, just like how the Coral maiden under a different name could easily NOT be part of the faction. (and she's not even an existing mythological creature anyway, she was invented for the faction, on a similar note, many HoMM creatures were re-styled to fit a faction, like... I dunno.. the Hydra, which was re-styled with each incarnation of HoMM during its swaps from Warlock to Fortress to Warlock(Dungeon) again.)
It's that the Coral Maiden, just isn't "as cool" to put say it blunty, yet at the same time bears resemblance too and thus diminishes the pressence of the Medusa, or even her chances of appearing in the latest instalment.

Heck the coral maiden IS a medusa, but then a weak one without the stone gaze and a low-tier, weak unit, it's like the diet-coke Medusa, the Margerine Medusa, the "I can't believe it's not Medusa" Medusa (despite it being obvious).

It's like seeing the Titan being replaced by the "Guardian Construct"
A really big golem as academy elite unit with a lightning bolt ability that looks like a giant garden gnome.

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razor5
razor5


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posted April 25, 2011 10:17 PM
Edited by razor5 at 22:18, 25 Apr 2011.

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No, my problem is that the 3D model deviates too much from the concept art. I don't like the H5 priest in design either, for the record.
You're right here ! I like the 3d model in-game, but it would be much better if they tried to make it the same with the artwork. It would look amazing

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I didn't really have a problem with the look of the Sister until I found out she is a melee unit and can only cast heal a couple times. I assumed she would be ranged and/or be able to cast a lot more. She doesn't really look like a unit that should cross the field for melee combat. It's not really a big deal, but there's not that much else to talk about.
Yes, when I heard that she's a melee unit a was a bit dissapointed. But it was clear for me that she wouldn't be a powerful caster since she was only a Core creature.

Don't be so sure that she doesnt look like a fighting unit. Maybe they'll give her a helmet like they did with the H5 beta Cleric


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Avirosb
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posted April 25, 2011 10:34 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 22:34, 25 Apr 2011.

Yeah, why did they do that?
Was it because certain units were too similar in appearance to units from other franchises (the priest upgrade, the ent/treant/dendroid, etc.)?

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Vlaad
Vlaad


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posted April 25, 2011 10:44 PM
Edited by Vlaad at 22:46, 25 Apr 2011.

Left: Warhammer's Warrior Priest

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Avirosb
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posted April 25, 2011 11:05 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 23:08, 25 Apr 2011.

Hmm... Looks like they forgot a few.

Maybe that's the real reason why there is no Dungeon faction in H6.

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Elvin
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posted April 25, 2011 11:14 PM

Nah that would assume it would not appear in the future either
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MrDragon
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posted April 25, 2011 11:49 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 23:52, 25 Apr 2011.

To be fair, that concept pre-dates Warhammer.
DnD's Dark Elves have been riding lizards(or dinosaurs, lets be politically correct here) since the late 70s/early 80s.
The idea of a warrior Cleric even predates DnD, particulairly the idea that holy men in battle would use blunt weapons over bladed ones.

Not saying this makes it more original, but all mainstream fantasy settings are constantly working with the same source material and nicking each other's ideas.

Ubihole's HoMMVI so far seem to be taking less cues from their close cousins then it's predecesors. (off the top of my head)

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Cepheus
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posted April 25, 2011 11:51 PM

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Was it because certain units were too similar in appearance to units from other franchises (the priest upgrade, the ent/treant/dendroid, etc.)?


Probably. We were assured there'd be absolutely no more ripping off from Warhammer models, and generally this has been the case.
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Avirosb
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posted April 26, 2011 12:04 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 00:04, 26 Apr 2011.

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DnD's Dark Elves have been riding lizards since the late 70s/early 80s.
Huh. I didn't know that.

So it's essentially a Druchii in a Drow uniform riding a Cold One then
But yeah, it doesn't really matter.
What's done is done, and I guess it's perfectly okay to nick other people's ideas as long as one doesn't try to pass a concept off as one's own, but rather making it one's own.

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tsar-ivor
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posted April 26, 2011 12:38 AM
Edited by tsar-ivor at 00:38, 26 Apr 2011.

I would give a whole fation for some news... any news...even michael....(SW)
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yaeliccc
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posted April 26, 2011 01:41 AM
Edited by yaeliccc at 01:55, 26 Apr 2011.

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I saw that lot of people complain about the Coral Priestess instead of Medusa. Here is my 'theory', and that's why I said the Coral Priestess is better.

First of all, the Sanctuary are a water-based faction. In the Greek mythology, the Medusa isn't a water creature, you can verify that here. It doesn't look like a water creature, and nowhere says that she is water related. Maybe she is a little, but not too much to make her an Elite creature in the Sanctuary.

If you check any Medusa from previous HoMM games, you'll see that she is a neutral creature (H2) , Dungeon/Asylum (H3/H4) . Now tell me, do you think this towns are related to water like the Sanctuary from H6 is ?

The Priestess is better, it looks like a water creature , and by its prefixes 'Coral' and 'Pearl' make her more water-based.


Listen and listen real good you little Medusa basher !!!!!

first of all naga in previous heroes games had nothing to do with water either so who cares, second of all it was never claimed that Medusa aka "the most awesome of all" should be a part of sanctuary but that coral maiden, aka "lame excuse for medusa" aka "I wanna be I wanna be like medusa when i grow up" aka "even that little fish nemo is more scary than me" aka "im the most unoriginal creation ever", shouldnt be a part of the sanctuary !!!!

What is a coral maiden anyways ? the creative team of blacksofty which BTW wouldnt be able to have a creative thought in their tiny little uncreative brains even if their lives depended on it, were sitting together eating something boring, drinking something boring and discussin their boring lives and boring ideas so they came up with a coral maiden... which has ice maiden's name, big naga warriors body, Awesome medusas hair and to make her even more awesome they gave her a stick... a stick !!!! and then they said lets make her a caster, coz we have only 2 casters so far in this faction, both women, she should be a caster as well... as if it werent enough we got a blue "wanna be radioctive glory that is everything but glorious" and called her spring spirit aka elemental number 3463... so boring !!! they make a cool ice maiden that has that geisha innocent but a silent killer kitana look and then they add those two little girls ??

now instead of going into a fight with an awesome new faction, instead of going to a war with ruthless army of killers i will feel like im going shopping with a bunch of pathetic girls who have sticks and glowing genitels... seriously ? water based creature, just use google or smth... coral maiden is lame !!!! dont compare her to homm3 Medusa who looked awesome, behaved awesome, had awesome abilities and simply was the best of the best.

instead of sharing your little silly theories go read the rules of heroes community to which all must obey - The Laws of homm community 93A, 2d Vol. 52, No speaking ill of the dead nor of the glorious Medusa from homm3.. it is crystal clear !!!!!

now that all that has been said, go to sleep, imagine these two guys
listen to their sweet voices calling you chiu chiu chiuuu chiu chiu askin you why did you have to talk about the medusa chiu chiu chiu WHYYYYYY ?
im a one woman army, if i hear you talkin about my medusa again it will be a vicious chick genocide, look at them, look at them, can you live with the thought that you have been responsible for their genocide can you can you ?:.... Can You ??? is your silly theory worth it ? do you have no compassion man ? just listen to them calling chiu chiu..... shame on you bad bad razor...

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tsar-ivor
tsar-ivor


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posted April 26, 2011 02:27 AM
Edited by tsar-ivor at 02:43, 26 Apr 2011.

i share your concerns to a point... this is very inappropriate but my nature compels me to do it. The chick genocide thing if it ever happens, er by accident...your gonna film it and post it on you-tube, right?

Also my question still stands do coral maidens retain the medusas ability to paralyse. {it would be a  passive or should be)?!?!


Last point Nagas according to hindu history (myth to you peeps) long story cut short (real short) nagas are 'people' who had the ability to turn themselves into snakes and since were talking about indian history yes water based snakes. Medusa is not a naga, and they never said it. Even if that is their intent so I don't mind. (their intent as in medusa being a naga).
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Warlord
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posted April 26, 2011 02:35 AM

Can someone show me a picture of a H3 Medusa so I can understand what all the fuss is about?
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