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Omnipotence
Omnipotence


Hired Hero
posted November 25, 2010 12:22 AM
Edited by Omnipotence at 00:23, 25 Nov 2010.

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Maybe the fifth faction will be a nation of amazon troglodytes.

I second this movement!!

But no, seriously, though I prefer to have something as abnormal as the glories than just a regular peasant, I would personally much rather see a more  medieval gladiator-tank guy than them. The glories just dont seem  to fit in at all with the idea of Haven, a bunch of steel-laden knights backed by the angels of Elrath.
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Aosaw
Aosaw


Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
posted November 25, 2010 12:30 AM

She does seem like basically an excuse for the designers to put a naked girl in the game...

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jabanoss
jabanoss


Promising
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posted November 25, 2010 12:38 AM

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Maybe the fifth faction will be a nation of amazon troglodytes.

I second this movement!!

But no, seriously, though I prefer to have something as abnormal as the glories than just a regular peasant, I would personally much rather see a more  medieval gladiator-tank guy than them. The glories just dont seem  to fit in at all with the idea of Haven, a bunch of steel-laden knights backed by the angels of Elrath.

I'm way to divided to decide, I agree so much with what you say, but on the other hand it's so cool that they have added this awesome creature, and the way it might affect the Haven.
Overall I like her, but I hope she will turn out to be more "feature-less" in gameplay, I mean that you won't see the difference between body and light that it is more of a transparent line between the both of them.
I also hope that she has some real endurance for Havens sake, but I doubt it :/
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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted November 25, 2010 01:13 AM

She is definately more Marvel than Heroes looking.

As long as her attack animation isn't her flying with her fist towards the enemy and puch them, I am quite ok with it. I suppose she could be the second shooter for Haven (but who knows)
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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted November 25, 2010 01:23 AM

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I know you guys try to bring the thoughts of the community to the developers, but other than that I assume you don't have that much influence(correct me if I am wrong). So don't see this as a personal assault, but that unit is seriously messed up.


I understand. They know the thoughts of the community, we make sure of that. I can only say here that the more unanimously and constructively a concern is brought up, the higher its priority for change (except the resources issue, I guess ). And I hope you'll agree anyway that the concept art (if not always the concepts themselves) is an enormous improvement over Heroes V.

It was surprising to see an awful lot of controversy over the Breeder, though, a unit I actually love. I thought you guys were generally nostalgics like me
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Aosaw
Aosaw


Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
posted November 25, 2010 01:43 AM

Don't worry, Cepheus; I still like the Breeder, even if it does seem a little bit out of place.

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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 25, 2010 04:22 AM

I like breeder too, especially curious about how it will play in the battlefield.

However, I don't really fond with the sun lady. I mean, is that the best "Light-based" creature they can get? they can have white spiritual Lion with similar function and the upgrade can wear a bit armor or Circlet/Crown headgear and still looks better, and Lion is used in many European Kingdom Symbol in the past. Not to mention that the upgrade is basically only different colored.

I am not a big fans of Haven, so yeah, don't care really much about it and necropolis is my stuff and I am really happy with what I got so far

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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted November 25, 2010 07:03 AM

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I know you guys try to bring the thoughts of the community to the developers, but other than that I assume you don't have that much influence(correct me if I am wrong). So don't see this as a personal assault, but that unit is seriously messed up.


I understand. They know the thoughts of the community, we make sure of that. I can only say here that the more unanimously and constructively a concern is brought up, the higher its priority for change (except the resources issue, I guess ). And I hope you'll agree anyway that the concept art (if not always the concepts themselves) is an enormous improvement over Heroes V.

It was surprising to see an awful lot of controversy over the Breeder, though, a unit I actually love. I thought you guys were generally nostalgics like me


Not to pry, but has anybody ever asked if they have any plans for the HIII Fortress to return ever?

I also agree that the art style in general is markedly better than 5's; HoMM V's art felt downright cartoonish at points, and while that's not necessarily a bad style, it's not HoMM. To me, HoMM has always been about a more "realistic" portrayal of fantasy, as opposed to games like Warcraft, so it's nice to see they are backing off of the Warcraft/anime look a bit.
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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 25, 2010 08:59 AM

It's doubtful IMO, they said there are 10 'factions' in Ashan which are to me, the 8 of H5, plus the Free Cities and Naga.

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deadace
deadace


Adventuring Hero
posted November 25, 2010 10:03 AM

I like the breeder, he's different, and I prefer some fresh units instead of all being retreads!
Can't wait for the next to factions to be revealed, I hope for a fresh one, so it won't just be Heroes 5 all over again!

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Omnipotence
Omnipotence


Hired Hero
posted November 25, 2010 02:23 PM

On that note, the emblematic hero part of the necro and inferno faction (guessing knight is changing or just doesn't require stating?) made me wonder if there was a relative timeframe for when we might find out more about the might and magic classes of each race? Will it be before the other factions are revealed, as a sort of place holder until Dec., or will we have to wait for the other two factions? It does't mean too much to me but I was just wondering...
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted November 25, 2010 02:33 PM

No idea but I believe we will get some news soon. Maybe they will cover the classes.
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hahakocka
hahakocka


Known Hero
posted November 25, 2010 03:40 PM

Big thanks for the faction overview.
Are the creatures in the right order in each of the factions and we can give them an official approval order too??

I said that the Haven creatures and the haven Castle on the adventure map with some similar elf houses, so it seems more Elven styled one. There are elven like creatures like the Light elemental Glory and a a look liked elven armor on the Sun horse riders. This great shining effect on this faction gives a more elven impression to the Haven town now. (You saw the Elfs in the Heros 4-5. game and they favour colours  are yellow green and blue like this Haven town too)

So because of that I think that may be Academy will return. In your Necro town overview there are many things said about similarities between the Necropolis and Academy creatures too.

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mytheroes
mytheroes


Famous Hero
posted November 25, 2010 04:04 PM

Elven armor? They don't even wear armor in H5. Elves/Rampart/Sylvan always strike me as green (even their dragon is green) not blue and yellow and shining. Heck, the Elves will put you at the top of their bounty/avenger list for even comparing them with the humans.

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dalm
dalm

Tavern Dweller
posted November 25, 2010 05:32 PM
Edited by dalm at 10:47, 04 Jan 2011.

There is also a comparison to sabretooth tigers and dire wolves.

[url=http://dragcave.net/view/6I7v][/url] [url=http://dragcave.net/view/3MCe][/url] [url=http://dragcave.net/view/Gs1C][/url]

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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 25, 2010 05:48 PM
Edited by admira at 17:54, 25 Nov 2010.

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There is also a comparison to sabretooth tigers and dire wolves.
would these be neutral creatures?


ahhh sabretooth, A Trigan perhaps? Part of the Beastmen faction? Just hoping though, Trigan, my favorite race in Age of Wonder.

Hey, they can also add Jackal (Anubis) as Beastmen alignment with Egyptic feels on the faction. Besides Lamasu is Beastmen experiment based on the lore.

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Kenishi
Kenishi


Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted November 25, 2010 06:36 PM

       Having read all the opinions regarding the Glory … I think a safer approach would have been a Valkiry like approach, and could be a shooter/ flyer  with the resurrection ability taking of from the Angels, allowing them to have a different ability.
Also instead of giving the flaming horse to knights she could have ridden it.  
        Below some links to the concept witch would work

http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=Valkyrie&order=9&offset=0&offset=48#/dysq1w

http://luciankinox.deviantart.com/art/VALKYRIE-171615533?q=boost%3Apopular+Valkyrie&qo=30

http://vanesse.deviantart.com/art/Valkyrie-Ellis-180685817?q=boost%3Apopular+Valkyrie&qo=21

http://abraaolucas.deviantart.com/art/Valkyrie-116426604?q=boost%3Apopular+Valkyrie&qo=34

http://genzoman.deviantart.com/art/Valkyrie-140588371?q=boost%3Apopular+Valkyrie&qo=0

P.S. Great work on faction thread ...


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El_Chita
El_Chita


Known Hero
Actually, my name is El Chita
posted November 25, 2010 07:05 PM

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As long as her attack animation isn't her flying with her fist towards the enemy and puch them, I am quite ok with it.

Her name is Radiant Glory, so maybe she can cause a nuclear reaction so that a powerful atomic bomb crushes into the battlefield ?

Radioactive Girl

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Seraphim
Seraphim


Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
posted November 25, 2010 10:17 PM
Edited by Seraphim at 22:28, 25 Nov 2010.

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And Haven has three females



I wonder what H6 Dungeon will be.

Cant wait!


and btw,the breeder looks like this


eventhough it might not be very original,it is quite unique in Heroes series.I really like it.
I just hope it does decent damage.


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Frederik360
Frederik360


Adventuring Hero
Looking to the sky
posted November 25, 2010 10:27 PM

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I know you guys try to bring the thoughts of the community to the developers, but other than that I assume you don't have that much influence(correct me if I am wrong). So don't see this as a personal assault, but that unit is seriously messed up.


I understand. They know the thoughts of the community, we make sure of that. I can only say here that the more unanimously and constructively a concern is brought up, the higher its priority for change (except the resources issue, I guess ). And I hope you'll agree anyway that the concept art (if not always the concepts themselves) is an enormous improvement over Heroes V.

It was surprising to see an awful lot of controversy over the Breeder, though, a unit I actually love. I thought you guys were generally nostalgics like me


First of all: "Great to hear." and yes, the concept art is way better than Heroes 5. I am a huge fan of Heroes 5, which so far is the best attempt to put equally focus on the hero and the creatures. And therefore I can only say well done, since Heroes 6 have already bested 5 in one area(concept art). And it is very good to hear, that any constructive feedback will get sent to the dev team. So far so good. Since constructive feedback/critiscism might have a chance to affect the game I think I want to try giving some myself, instead of complaining all the time.

First one goes to the haven faction, which I actually liked for the first time in heroes 5. Have already mentioned, that I think it is going glow overkill. Instead I think they should either make fewer bright lines or/and have symbols instead of just lighting up the whole creature. This would give the possibility to add different holy symbols/tattoos to some of the creatures making for very cool details. So far I think the Praetorian is an excellent example of this and who are gonna disagree, that the detail on it is incredible(yes, I actually like some of the units so far). Since Haven is going for a more spiritual look, why not give them the option of showing off such symbols, which is very important to any religion/spiritual beliefs.

Second one goes to the breeder, which is kind of a hate/love monster IMO. First of all, this could have some cool gameplay mechanics, which I have already mentioned. But I just don't think it looks like it belongs to the inferno faction. It's upgrade is heading more in a right direction, but I still think this creature needs an overhaul. First thing you could do was change the texture of how it looks to a more demon flesh instead of the blob thing it has going on. The addition of a face could also be implemented, but I don't think it fits this exact design. But having a faceless demon in style of resident evil/doom could actually work for the breeder. I think there was a picture in one of the previous posts, which illustrates my point. Would also really like to see some sort of winged swift flyer in the inferno faction almost like red gargoyle, but with a more demonic look. Think i also gave a link to this in one of my previous posts.

Third, and this one goes to Kenishi. I actually think the valkyrie idea could work with some tweaks, only thing keeping me from agreeing completely is, that I actually think you could create a complete norse mythology faction with valkyries, giants and vikings. But the valkyrie would be a welcome addition to the haven faction, which would also show a different portrait of the women in heroes. Don't get why we have female leaders, who participate in battle and lead armies, while the only female creatures seem to be exposed elements, leaf covered sprites or stereotype priestesses. As for the concept arts I think the best one to go with would be the last one since the majority of the others resemble dark elves too much. The first would still need and overhaul and possibly a wing removal operation. Not sure how the societys view on women is at this time, somebody feel like enlightening me?
 

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