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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 (446) 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted July 08, 2011 08:12 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 08:14, 08 Jul 2011.

The Abyssal Worm comes from one of the Inferno city unique building. While you fight in the Control Area of a city with this building, an Abyssal Worm will randomly swallow creatures from the enemy's ranks every turn and weaken them. The enemy can kill the worms to free the swallowed creatures.

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted July 08, 2011 08:15 AM

See, I TOLD you the Pit Lord wasn't the strongest Inferno creature!
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Crayfish
Crayfish


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posted July 08, 2011 11:08 AM
Edited by Crayfish at 11:09, 08 Jul 2011.

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I like the Abyssal Worm screenshot, except it says it swallowed a Fury

What I don't get is why they felt the need to include the "a/an" part.
Couldn't they have used variables to declare whether it's a singular Fury or a whole bunch of them?
It's not consistent either, since it ends with "swallowed creature".
Nitpicky, I know....



Um...

A fury...

An furies...

???


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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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Property of Nightterror™
posted July 08, 2011 05:12 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 17:12, 08 Jul 2011.

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Is it just me or does that Abyssal Worm look extremly ugly ingame? On its art its pretty awesome, but the way it stands on thebattlefield is pretty horrible.

The earth this giant beast comes out off is still unplugged... that looks pretty strange to me...

No, it isn't just you...

And it's animation is completely broken and partly nonexistent. :/
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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted July 08, 2011 05:48 PM

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Um...

A fury...

An furies...

???


Consonants vs Vowels.
(not singular vs plural...)
Fury starts with an F. A Fury.

I don't know what I was drinking thinking when I wrote that

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Jabanoss
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Property of Nightterror™
posted July 10, 2011 07:18 AM

Well in the Beta we only have 3 campaign maps and 1 skirmish map.
So the thing is, in the campaign maps the neutral and all other units can be mixed. For example you can very well face both Air Elementals and Water Elemantals at the same time.

However on the Skirmish map, there are no stacks on the map that is this way.
Though I hope and believe that this will be different when the game comes, or that it's different for different maps...
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Insanity
Insanity


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Brain cells killa
posted July 10, 2011 11:43 AM

anybody else felt like AI is like super ultra extra weak in the beta ? me scared they wont change that that would like kill all the fun of the game, might hit the kindergarden and play with 4 yr olds instead of AI
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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
posted July 11, 2011 06:58 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 06:59, 11 Jul 2011.

Spells food for thought:

Puppet Master (darkness) - Nice that it's like Frenzy from H5 where it works for 2 turns. If the victim takes damage, the spell is dispelled....does this include retaliations from stacks when you use this victim to attack?

Petrifictation (earth) - Lovely! Glad they made a spell like this! Wonder if Guardian Angel is more effective for Haven than this spell?

Terror (darkness) - Cool! Very important to stop turns of enemy stack as we have rounds now....

Time Stasis (prime)- Like Terror above but lasts for more turns! hectic!

Retribution Aura III (light) - WOW! Phew, is this not too overpowered? A friendly stack receiving damage gives a portion back to all enemy stacks (not including the retaliation)



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Dave_Jame Online
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted July 11, 2011 02:10 PM

The puppet master in Heroes V was an interesting form. The heroes IV one was to owerpowerd. No that the heroes V was not, but it was not that much.
So could someone exactly describe its function in Heroes VI
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vitorsly
vitorsly


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Joker!
posted July 11, 2011 02:53 PM

Quote:
There has to be...

In my opinion:
Random Map Generator > Anything else


Without a random map generator I WON'T play this game and everything nice I said about this game changes!
That is the ONLY reason I don't play HoMM 4

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Crayfish
Crayfish


Known Hero
posted July 11, 2011 03:28 PM

Quote:
The puppet master in Heroes V was an interesting form. The heroes IV one was to owerpowerd. No that the heroes V was not, but it was not that much.
So could someone exactly describe its function in Heroes VI


Dunno, pretty hard to level that far and I think the spell is broken at the moment anyway.

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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Kreegan-atheist
posted July 11, 2011 03:52 PM

I started the client a while ago and it looked like it patched itself. Anybody else noticed something?

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Mitzah
Mitzah


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of the Horadrim
posted July 11, 2011 04:18 PM

As far as I can tell, only the launcher has been patched. The game version seems to be the same. It's quite disappointing really, We should've had at least two patches until now.
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odium
odium


Known Hero
posted July 11, 2011 05:07 PM
Edited by odium at 17:08, 11 Jul 2011.

I think their approach for the public beta is not to give them insights into balancing, which I guess that they knew it was pretty screwed in this build, but to have an insight on how the people feel in general about the game. So, I doubt that they will patch it so that we can properly test the balance. To my knowledge, Ubisoft is not the company to invest money in several patches in the public beta phase so that at the time of release the game balance is decent. Probably we will reach a good version of the game with the first, or more likely, the second expansion.

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


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Look into my eyes...
posted July 12, 2011 02:06 AM

@odium: I'm not too sure, Ubisoft would have learned from H5 to create a good game upfront and not only on expansion no.2. but let's wait and see.

Well done to the artwork winners, my favorite is the slain Kirin being taken away....

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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posted July 12, 2011 02:33 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 02:34, 12 Jul 2011.

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@odium: I'm not too sure, Ubisoft would have learned from H5 to create a good game upfront and not only on expansion no.2. but let's wait and see.

Ubisoft learning from the past ? Good joke ! No, really !

It's safe to say that the H6 beta is far worse than the H5 one and that was hard

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DoubleDeck
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posted July 12, 2011 03:05 AM

I'm not talking about the beta, I'm talking about the actual game when it gets released.....nonetheless, to have a worse beta might be a blessing in disguise...sometimes you need to fail badly in order to jump ahead in leaps and bounds

Gating: So, very different from H5 which is cool. You can only gate one creature at a time (ie. creatures don't gate themselves)...just want to ask, the higher the bar, the higher tier creature you can gate? (ie. need a full bar for Champion gating)

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Zenofex
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Kreegan-atheist
posted July 12, 2011 03:12 AM

Quote:
Gating: So, very different from H5 which is cool. You can only gate one creature at a time (ie. creatures don't gate themselves)...just want to ask, the higher the bar, the higher tier creature you can gate? (ie. need a full bar for Champion gating)
No. You get to Gate the Champion when you reach level 3 of the skill, no matter how full the gauge is. The latter seems to be related to the amount of creatures that you can Gate from the tier that is allowed to be Gated at certain level of the hero.

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


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Look into my eyes...
posted July 12, 2011 05:59 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 06:11, 12 Jul 2011.

Well Gating is very cool indeed, now you need to apply a more strategic approach to gating. You have to decide whether to gate a stack early (with low troop count) or be patient and wait a while for the bar to fill up and gate more troops....all depends what you are fighting and other factors....well done Ubihole.

When you gate a stack can you decide where to place it on the battlefield?

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Nelgirith
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posted July 12, 2011 06:54 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 06:54, 12 Jul 2011.

Quote:
When you gate a stack can you decide where to place it on the battlefield?

Yes, you can.
The gate will have the same size than the creature (so a Cerberus gate will be 2x2 squares for example) and it gets destroyed with one single hit. You can't use the gate to block shooters, but you can use it as a cover.

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