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Alaamir
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 12, 2010 09:33 AM |
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Dwarves need to be in there.
Totally agree with the man. Maybe they will be present in some of the expansions. Hope to see them in the future as an individual faction like in H5.
Another creature that is iconic is the Devil for inferno 
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted November 12, 2010 01:19 PM |
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I want The Boar!
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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Bludgeon
Known Hero
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posted November 12, 2010 01:29 PM |
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I want The Boar!
YES!
Or at least goblin boar raider
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SkySlam
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 22, 2010 12:09 AM |
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Obviously, Titans vs Black Dragons and (arch)Angels vs (arch)Devils (or surrogates) are the two clashes I can't do without.
Other creatures that have a special place in my heart:
Champion
Treant
Golem
Genie
Mage
Vampire
Hydra
Behemoth
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lichking012
Known Hero
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posted November 22, 2010 12:48 AM |
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I have relatively few creatures I think are neccessary to the series.
I split it into two catagories really, the ones I think NEED to be there, and the ones I would like to see again since they were soso awesome before. The first list is much shorter
NEED TO BE THERE
Angels
Devils
Liches
Black Dragons
Titans
Hydras
Griffins
Elvin archer
Cyclops
Vampires
Phoenixes
Want to see again
GORGONS
MEDUSAS
NAGAS
Behemoths (heroes 3 style NOT heroes 4 style)
Pegasuses
Rocs/ Thunder birds
Ghosts
Lizard Men
Peasants
Pit Lords
Succubi
Treants
Unicorns
Wights
Wyverns
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 22, 2010 02:45 AM |
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I'm absolutely shocked that there could be a discussion on creatures essential to the Heroes series that didn't include the Pikeman! He's been in every game since H1, and he was sorely missed in H5, as the stupid-looking, fat Peasants replaced him. At least we know he's back though.
Other creatures I'd like to see return:
Lizardmen
Mighty Gorgon
Basilisks
In terms of creatures essential to the Heroes series, there needs to be Black Dragons. They are an icon of HoMM and it simply wouldn't do for them to not be in the game in some form.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted November 22, 2010 02:45 AM |
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Edited by Orfinn at 02:57, 22 Nov 2010.
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Werewolves is a must IMO. They were in M&M 6 under the name Wolfmen and in HIII WOG. Havent gotten attention worth their name. Being kinda overshadowed by others like, vampires and dragons Werewolves deserves to return, fiercer than ever!
Also Dendroids, Unicorns, Wolves and at least the Black, Gold and Bone dragon.
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jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 22, 2010 09:23 AM |
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My list:
Black Dragon
Angel
Devil
Unicorns
Titans
Skeletons
Minotaurs
Hydra
Elemental
Griffins
And some additional units that I think should be -.-
Gnolls
Lizardmen
Manticores
Cyclops
Trolls
Troglodytes!
But I don't think the developers should be to hooked on old unit, wait! I mean, don't forget to add new ones as well 
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted November 22, 2010 10:58 AM |
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Edited by Lexxan at 11:01, 22 Nov 2010.
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Dragon (in any form or colour)
Unicorn
Vampire
Wherewolf
Sphinx/Lamassu
Halfling
Genie/Efreet
Naga
Angel/Devil
Sprite/Pixie/Nymph/Dryad
Elf
Treant/Dendroid
Hell Hound
Phoenix
Mage/Cleric/Priest/Druid/Monk
Dwarf/Halfling
Lich
Ghoul (F*** Zombies O_O)
Skeleton
Gargoyle
Centaur
Hydra
Gremlin
Gnoll
Ogre
Giant
Roc
Behemoth
Goblin
Leprechaun
Venom Spawn (F*ck off, haterz, I LOVED these in H4, )
Ghost/Spirit/Spectre
Banshee
Grim Reaper
Minotaur
Medusa
Harpy
Hag
Trodlodyte
Beholder/Gauth/Argus/Evil Eye
Griffin/Hippogryph
Imp
Pegasus
Kelpie/Selkie
Nightmare
Rakshasa/Liontaur
Golem
Humans in any form.
God, there's just too many. 
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted November 22, 2010 11:20 AM |
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What's the point in listing every single creature that appeared in any HoMM and call them essential ? 
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vitorsly
Known Hero
Joker!
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posted November 22, 2010 02:23 PM |
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If I could choose only one the choice is immediate... LIZARDMAN was the best creature for me of the entire MM series.
(graphically because gameplay-wise they were horrible like mmost of their town. )
But there are others like the wivern, the basylisk (yay for old fortress!) The minotaur and the behemoth.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted November 22, 2010 04:29 PM |
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What's the point in listing every single creature that appeared in any HoMM and call them essential ?
To make sure things line ups like H5's Fortress don't happen anymore. Seriously, Factions with more than one type of a specific creature serious depreciation </3
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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evinin
Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
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posted November 22, 2010 06:22 PM |
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Edited by evinin at 18:23, 22 Nov 2010.
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The two things I can't live without are Angels and Dragons (any Dragons but still I most adore the Black Dragons in all of the series and the Golden and Azure ones in the III). Secondly - Griffins and Elves. I didn't miss the Medusas and Nagas (design from the III for both) in the V but I'll love to see them again. Some creatures that I'll also like to come back are the Pegasus, Gorgons and Basilisks from the III and the Nightmares (in both IV and V look good).
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 23, 2010 10:41 AM |
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HOMMIII
Gold Dragon
Bone Dragon
Ogre
Dragon Fly
Magic Elemental
Human Nomad
Gold Golem
HOMMIV
Dark Champion
Venom Spawn
Ballista
Wolf
Dragon Golem
Pokemon Elementals
Mantis
Sea Monster
HOMMV
Orc units, especially shaman and chieftain.
Were pretty cool actually.
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vitorsly
Known Hero
Joker!
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posted November 23, 2010 06:18 PM |
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I only hate two single creatures (not really the creatures but their H5 look)
Gargoyle and succubus should be like the heroes 3 and 6 versions respectively! Every other heroes creature looks good for me or moderate at the min for me.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 23, 2010 07:06 PM |
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As long as H5 Gargoyle is buried somewhere far, far away, I really don't have any issues with creatures from H3 or H5. Genies would be the only other thing I really hated; they just looked so stupid with no head and giant fists.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 07:14 PM |
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Okay, I expect many people to be against the creatures I would like to return, not neccessarily in that particular faction (I'm a lover of unpopular monsters, it seems). Therefore I'm going to write 2 lists, one for units I consider essential for each town, and another for the ones I really like(apart from the ones mentioned in the first list, not saying I don't like them )
ESSENTIAL:
HAVEN - Griffin, Monk(but the H6 Priestess is a good replacement), Angel, Archer
SYLVAN - Sprite, Elven Archer, Unicorn, Green Dragon
INFERNO - Imp, Cerberus, Devil
NECROPOLIS - Skeleton, Ghost, Vampire, Lich
DUNGEON - Minotaur, Medusa(how could they not include it in H5?), Hydra, Black Dragon
STRONGHOLD - Goblin, Ogre, Cyclops, Thunderbird
ACADEMY - Golem, Mage, Genie, Rakshasa(now I know they're not essential as such, but as it has been hinted that Naga will have their own faction, they should remain ), Titan
FORTRESS - Although I liked the concept(if there were only 2 Dwarves less, it'd be a good faction IMO), it isn't an essential faction BUT at least 1 old-school Dwarf should be placed somewhere in one of the factions.
WOULD REALLY WANT TO SEE AGAIN(apart from the ones mentioned):
HAVEN - none apart from the ones mentioned
SYLVAN - Wolf, Treant, Pegasi, Faerie Dragon, Phoenix, Waspwort
INFERNO - Gog, Efreet, Succubus, Nightmare, Pit Lord, Ice Demon, Venom Spawn
NECROPOLIS - Bone Dragon(with a design like in H2&H4, at least as a neutral)
DUNGEON - Troglodyte, Harpy, Beholder, Manticore(while I like the H6 Lamassu, it would look a lot more interesting with a lion face)
STRONGHOLD - Centaur, Shaman, Roc/Thunderbird, Behemoth
ACADEMY - Gremlin or Halfling, Gargoyle(but with a cool design like H2&H3&H4)
FORTRESS - As the majority of people, I agree that there were too many dwarves BUT I think the faction deserves a chance(Throw out the Berserker, Thane, Skirmisher, and replace them with some Norse Mythology creatures or even the Efreet and Gog, while STILL leaving good units like the Defender, Bear Rider or Bear itself, Runemage, and Magma Dragon)
FORTRESS(H3 STYLE) - EVERY unit(Gnoll, Lizardman, Serpent Fly, Basilisk, Gorgon, Wyvern, and maybe a Behemoth since the Hydra is now in Dungeon)
CONFLUX - Even though I liked the town I understand why many people didn't, therefore I'd want the Elementals to at least be present as neutrals along with the Psychic Elemental, while giving the Sprite and hopefully Phoenix to Sylvan
Does anyone here agree with me on the Essential ones and/or also want the same creatures as me to return?
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 23, 2010 07:24 PM |
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Agreed on H3 Fortress; I want my favorite town back!
I also agree that H5 Fortress needs less dwarves; it was a cool town but having all but 1 unit be a dwarf really goes against the HoMM spirit of powerful and interesting creatures. More magma monsters would be cool, like you said.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 09:03 PM |
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Agreed on H3 Fortress; I want my favorite town back!
I also agree that H5 Fortress needs less dwarves; it was a cool town but having all but 1 unit be a dwarf really goes against the HoMM spirit of powerful and interesting creatures. More magma monsters would be cool, like you said.
Cool town? It was all dwarves, while the other town pretty much shared humanoids with monsters.
The dark elf dungeon also had too much dark elf units, but not as bad as the dwarves did.
I hope NOBODY makes commercials about how they loved that boring town, I don't want them to think they actually did it cool and make that stupid mistake town again any time soon in homm6.
I'm happy that we share views then. And yes, the swamp Fortress definitely needs to come back to HOMM! Hope it will come with the expansions, along with alternate upgrades(though I won't cry if they're missing, just it would be nice to have them, more variety )
And by "cool town" maybe he meant not the units but the whole concept(I personally liked Runelore and Heroes riding Mammoths xD ) And yes, it WAS almost all dwarves, but I strongly believe that if the adjustments I mentioned in my previous post would be made, the creature lineup would be great and accepted by those who didn't like Fortress in H5 
Oh, I agree with you on the Dark Elves(though the Blood Sister and Shadow Matriarch are good creatures in their own right, they should be made neutral, and give their position back to the Harpy and Medusa respectively. And I didn't really like the Grim Rider but it could be a neutral for me) ...shame Beholder didn't make it, it was disturbingly attractive to have in your army xD
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 24, 2010 01:46 AM |
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I'll be honest, I liked the all-dwarven lineup of H5's Fortress. It could have been far more original, true, but I still thought it was a good town; I've always liked dwarves.
Do you dislike H5's Haven as well? It's got 5 human units, which is only 1 less of the same race than H5 Fortress's 6 Dwarven units.
I also agree that the Beholder was a shame to lose; it was creepy and awesome.
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