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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224]
Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224] [ This thread is 419 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 (49) 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 ]
evinin
evinin


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Servant of Asha
posted March 10, 2011 07:30 PM

Quote:
How often do mages spend seven days with a spell-knowledgeable hero in a town?

It's rather unprogrammable - using separate towns, you'd get mages knowing different spells, so what'd happen on a merge?

Spell Reader is just simpler.


Doesn't matter anyway, it's already chosen.
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted March 10, 2011 07:34 PM

@evinin: Spell reader is more powerfull than arcane studies in a way. Of course they wouldn't learn any spell with arcane studies, at least the chances would be higher the lower the spell level is...

anyways, for Sphinx.

I'm not into ideas for it now, but I'm sure you can come up with sth. I'll follow in
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evinin
evinin


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posted March 10, 2011 07:41 PM
Edited by evinin at 20:15, 10 Mar 2011.

Sphinx - flyer, of course.

Clever one - could be used three times for a battle. A Sphinx loses half (or all) of it's turn in order to "find" the weakness of some enemy creature. When it strikes it again, it does double damage but only once.

Wise one - could be used three times for a battle. A Sphinx loses half (or all) of it's turn in order to "find" the weakness of some friendly creature. That creature receives a double defense for a round.

Strange one - could be used three times for a battle. A Sphinx loses half (or all) of it's turn in order to "ask" a riddle. All the nearest enemy creatures lose some of their move trying to figure it out.

Bloodthirsty one - could be used three times a battle. A Sphinx can do a battle-dive-like maneuver and has 25% chance for a critical hit on a single unit.

Choose one.

(I don't know if I can do that, Jiriki, I'm sorry if I can't, I just had a couple of ideas and I wanted to write them all down)
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Avirosb
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posted March 10, 2011 08:13 PM

Manure, eh?
I choose Enigmatic Incursion, A.K.A Clever One

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evinin
evinin


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posted March 10, 2011 08:16 PM

Quote:
Manure, eh?
I choose Enigmatic Incursion, A.K.A Clever One


I've fixed it, sorry.
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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 08:22 PM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 20:24, 10 Mar 2011.

It's not what I intended, though, since you did it, for THIS SINGLE MOMENT things are turned around. And I choose one of these to go on

I choose flyer as a naturality.

NOW THIGNS ARE BACK TO NROMAL AGAIN

The others, btw., were great but a bit difficult maybe in the system we're using, since we'Re not having H5-like unit turns, but battlefield-turns like in H3, so they are no half turns...

However, which of these shall be in, too, for sphinx. Some of course are altered from evi'S.

Clever one (Activated ability. 3 times a battle, sphinxes can use this ability to find the weakness of the chosen enemy stack. For this battle, the sphinxes will deal double damage against that stack.)
OR
Wise one (Activated ability. 3 times a battle, sphinxes can use this ability to find the weakness of the chosen friendly stack. Target stack receives a huge defense bonus for 2 turns)
OR
Strange one (Activated ability. Once per battle, sphinxs can ask a riddle. All nearby enemy creatures will loose their next turn, trying to figure it out)
OR
Bloodthirsty one (Activated Ability. Once per battle, sphinxes can target an enemy ANYWHERE on the Battlefield and directly attack it, with a damage bonus of +25%)
OR
Mystery (They say in the eyes of the Sphinx, you see all the mystery of the world - and that's too much for most. Once per battle, a Sphinx can gaze at a target enemy stack, making them loose their next 3 turns unless they are immune to Mind Magic, have no Eyes or similar. No obstacles may be between Sphinx and target in order for this ability to work. Also does not work on Champion units)
OR
Old One (A Sphinx has seen many mysteries and all tricks, for sure. Enemies can never have luck when attacking a Sphinx)
OR
Old One (A Sphinx has seen many mysteries and all tricks, for sure. Enemies positive Luck is reduced to half while attacking a Sphinx)

EDIT: meh, aviros' post wasn't there when I started posting...anyway, aviros, do you want the altered form of "Clever One" to be the other ability?^^
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Avirosb
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posted March 10, 2011 08:25 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 20:26, 10 Mar 2011.

Quote:
I've fixed it, sorry.

Oh, don't be. I just thought it was pretty funny in context.
Imagine being bombarded with a barrage of feces

EDIT:
Quote:
do you want the altered form of "Clever One" to be the other ability?

I choose Enigmatic Incursion, A.K.A Clever One.

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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 08:26 PM

FIne. Shall Sphinxes have a third ability of the List above?
Yes (And which) or No?
...I ask this because I feel Sphinxes are a quite...abilityic creature...
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Avirosb
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posted March 10, 2011 08:30 PM

Yes...?
How about Guardian, which raises the Sphinxes' attack & defense momentarily if it remains in place under siege attacks?

Kinda specific, I dunno. I'm not a game designer.

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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 08:40 PM

a bit specific yes, but I suggested almost the same ability for Minotaurs a page ago ...also I said "from the list above"...could you befriend yourself with one of these, or shall it be guardian?

anyway proceeding, to the fire-water-elemental.

I think some kind of double-elemental ability is a must have here.

Paradox Resistance (This creature gets only half fire and water damage)
OR
Paradox Immunity (This creature gets no fire or water damage)
OR
Paradox Absorbtion (THsi creature gets no damage through fire or water, but even absorbs 50% of the damage into healing)
OR
Bielemental Strike (This creature deals no physical damage but 50% water, 50% fire damage)
OR
Elemental Chaos (Activated Ability. Once per battle, this creature can set an elemental chaos on some hexes (one hex and all around). THis elemental chaos deals heavy fire+water damage to all creatures in it's range)
OR
Instable (the mixture of fire and water is  highly instable. Sometimes the elementals cannot act, because they are in a mess enough not to implode)
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evinin
evinin


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posted March 10, 2011 08:44 PM

Paradox Absorption.
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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 08:58 PM

2nd ability?

Bielemental Strike (This creature deals no physical damage but 50% water, 50% fire damage)
OR
Elemental Chaos (Activated Ability. Once per battle, this creature can set an elemental chaos on some hexes (one hex and all around). THis elemental chaos deals heavy fire+water damage to all creatures in it's range)
OR
Instable (the mixture of fire and water is  highly instable. Sometimes the elementals cannot act, because they are in a mess enough not to implode)
OR
Another idea by you
OR
none
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Minnakht
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posted March 10, 2011 09:00 PM
Edited by Minnakht at 21:01, 10 Mar 2011.

Boil: When a fire-water-elemental dies, it explodes in a burst of hot steam, damaging the adjacent creatures. The damage goes up the HIGHER the enemy's defence is, and is multiplied by some additional multiplier if the enemy has "Armored".

...um... I've got a creature I could do with getting ability ideas for too. Are you interested in helping me out?

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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 10:29 PM

of course I am, but not here...you could take a look HERE (has MANY abilities) or ask there

going on to Crystal Golem. Mechanical, obviously...

and which of these?

Reflect Magic (The Crystal Golem reflects spells cast on him onto a random target)
OR
Absorb Magic (Magic has no effect on the Crystal Golem)
OR
Anti-magical Aura (Spells targeted on Crystal Golems or adjacent tiles or units have some chance to fail)
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Minnakht
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posted March 10, 2011 10:43 PM

Reflect magic.

None of the existing abilities seem fitting... the other thread seems quite old, so I guess I'll just try to think of something myself. It'll be Shoggoth-y.

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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 10:50 PM

you can also open a request thread or ask it in the thread with your faction! I'D be glad to help if I knew for what, but don't want it discussed detailedly here...

OK another wish/suggestion for crystal golem?
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Minnakht
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posted March 10, 2011 11:04 PM

Dazzling&Transparent - Attacks against the Crystal Golem are treated as if only 80% of the enemy stack executes them, 40-60% if it's a ranged attack, as it's hard to target being so shiny and they miss.


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Jiriki9
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posted March 10, 2011 11:08 PM

Ok. Proceeding to Dragon-Golem. Also mechanical...and large

what else? Ideas?

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Minnakht
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posted March 10, 2011 11:20 PM

OhGodWhatIsThat - Induces fear in attacked units, making them run and not retaliate. Like H4 Bone Dragons did.

this, or flamethrowers

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Jiriki9
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posted March 11, 2011 12:05 AM

hmmm ok.

Now, I go to bed, soon, so a cascade...

1. Which of these shall be Dragon Golem ability?

Steam (The dragon can, once per battle, blow off his hot steam, dealing air/water/fire damage to all adjacent fields, hurting all units standing there)
OR
Another good idea by you
OR
NONE

2. Which of these shall be Jaguar ability?

Follow (When an adjacent enemy moves away from Jaguar, Jaguar will follow and attack 'em)
OR
Stalker (No Enemy Retaliation when attack from anywhere but Front)
OR
Hide in the Undergrowth (Needs better name; Jaguars can move INTO (but not THROUGH!) some kind of obstacles: bushes, etc. They cannot be targeted there, and they cannot stay there: in their next turn they must come out. Attacking from an obstacle though, the jaguars have "No retaliation")

3. Naga Warrior

No Enemy Retaliation
OR
Many Arms (Melee Attack & Realiation hits 3 tiles)
OR
Unlimited retaliation
OR
Whirlwind (Once per battle, Naga Warriors can perform a melee attack that strikes all units around them)
OR
Parry (Instead of having a Retaliation, they parry the enemy, preventing a large part of the damage, this also works only 1 time per turn, like retaliating)

4. Turtle Rider

No Enemy Retaliation
OR
Throw Net (ONce per battle, the Turtle Riders can throw a net onto an enemy in reach. As long as the enemy is under the net, they can not move. Each turn, they have an increasing chance to get free)
OR
Shooter
OR
Swimming (This creature can move freely through water-moats and water-obstacles like rivers, ponds & lakes)
OR
Turtle Shell (When Defending, the turtle retreats into it's shell, and the Rider follows as best as possible. Defense command has double effect on this creature)

So far, good night...
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