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Thread: Eurovision 2012 This thread is 13 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 · «PREV
Lexxan
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posted May 28, 2012 11:21 PM
Edited by Lexxan at 00:02, 29 May 2012.

34. SERBIA
Zheljko Joksimovich with "Nije Ljubav Stvar"
3rd place




AND BOOM JUST LIKE THAT 3/5 of the TOP 5 has been decimated BEFORE I reached #33 on this list. From the outside looking in I guess you might have thought it was IMPOSSIBLE to rank Serbia this low given how POPULAR and MELODIC It is... Weeeeeeeeeell...

(you have no idea how LONG i've been waiting to use that link)

Serbia's main problem I guess is pretty much the same problem as with stuff like Albania, Azerbaijan and Germany. It's a song I don't care for. Never have. I find it relatively generic within its own genre (in this case, Balkan folkballads). Like the previous entries on this list, it did a whole lot better than it should have, and robbed several other songs in the process (not talking about the Scandiavian entries, but the slavic/southern European entries. Macedonia, Spain and Italy, especially. )

And then there's the usual problem of a start so slow it makes a diesel engine look like a cheetah. Like seriously, by the time "Nije ljubav svar" gets interesting, it's almost over.:-/

I also do NOT approve of plagiarism.... like some rhythms are CLEARLY stolen from Coldplay. I mean it makes the song pretty, I guess, but plagiarism is still so lame to me... like... none of the other songs plagiarize and most of them were GOOD, so... it gives Serbia even LESS of an excuse to steal from Coldplay.

The only reason why Serbia is this high is because of the EXTREMELY potent ending. I feel it's a lot of wasted potential though. If the song was as powerful THROUGHOUT the entire performance as it was near the end, I would have had it higher. Now, however, I find it mostly tepid and am annoying by its undeserved high placement.

Best part: DEFINITELY the climax at the very end. It's VERY GOOD
Worst part: Nothing in particular. The song is very boring before the climax, and nothing happens during the act so... :-/

Backstage: Unsurprisingly Zhejlko is pretty much this year's patriarch, often giving long stories about his experiences to whoever wants to listen. But he isn't a particularly sparkly person though. He's pretty a normal and well-rounded individual.

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posted May 28, 2012 11:39 PM

Surprisingly, I agree with you on this one.
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posted May 29, 2012 12:08 AM

Yay for us Alc. I won't update anymore today, BUT I will post these oh-so enlighting clues about the next 5 songs

- Boring song from a country that sang in the Final.
- Boring song from a Coastal NON-Mediterranean Country
- Boring song from a Mediterranean Country
- Boring song from a Small country
- Boring song from a Baltic Country
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posted May 29, 2012 12:14 AM

Quote:
- Boring song from a Coastal NON-Mediterranean Country

I think I know who that might have been.
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posted May 29, 2012 10:15 PM

Quote:
Quote:
- Boring song from a Coastal NON-Mediterranean Country

I think I know who that might have been.


If you guessed Portugal, you were correct. (technically it isn't a mediterranean country)


33. UK
32. Portugal
31. Croatia
30. Belgium
29. Finland

Granted, I did write-ups on these on the other board (where I post them FIRST), but most of them were literally "*Yawn*" or "Boring" or "*Snore*", so what's the point even . Besides, I can't imagine ANYONE wanting to relisten to that boring crap, so...

ANYWAY:




28. BULGARIA
Sofi Marinova with "Love Unlimited"
27th place




LOL at this being the highest scoring song that didn't make the Final. I never would have expected that.

The screetching, oh GOD the screetching. Mind you, I love a shrieking harpy from time to time (Kaliopi <3 Poli Genova <3), but Sofi doesn't do if for me because her screetching is downright unmelodic. It sounds like someone choking a rooster to death at sunrise. Not the most pleasant of sounds. It's like Albania's entry, but NON-STOP X__X

But even if the singing was bad, what about the Lyrics and the music and the act? Let us start with the Act: it is DULL, and her Princess Leia-as-Jabba-The-Hutt's-Sluntt-like wardrobe won't change that. . The lyrics? They are bad. I understand them and I can vouch they are PAINFULLY repetitive, cliché and empty (singing about "how there are no borders between love"... how mundane). Also, can we talk how CHEAP the use of 11(!) languages in the chorus is? Most obvious attempt to garner votes ever, amirite? It almost worked too, heaven forbid X__X.

The music I like though. It comes relatively close to what most comtemporary Bulgarian music sounds like. Also her yelling of "AY LAV U SOW MAAAAAAAATSH" is kinda hilarious and it's actually SUNG too!

Overall, I dislike Bulgaria's entry, but not enough to slaughter it with the previous songs, since it's neither boring nor overachieving.

Best moment: "AY LAV U SOW MAAAAAAAAAAAATSH"
Worst woment: the Chorus. By far. Screetching, gimmicky, painful. Not my cuppa.

Backstage: Sofi doesn't speak a WORD English, so whenever they interviewed (which, for this reason, was only ONCE) her she had to be dubbed lol.



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posted May 29, 2012 11:15 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 23:23, 29 May 2012.

Quote:
If you guessed Portugal, you were correct. (technically it isn't a mediterranean country)

Oh, I thought you ment Denmark. Didn't see semi-finals 2, so haven't heard the Bulgarian song, so can't comment on that one.

I thought the Finnish (?) song was pretty good. The English song actually was not bad either, the whole concept was just a bit misstaged in these times - I think it could have been a winner 50 years ago, lol.
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posted May 31, 2012 11:38 PM

(I guess I'll never have enough time for HC:ing.)

I heard there is a chance that next year's competition will be in my city! Nice!

Lexxan, you've found some worthy candidates for your lists.
Kurt and Donny are wimps in wimpy performances, that's their biggest problems. Bonus points to Malta for having an echo of Haddaway's What is love as its basic riff. Re: Azerbaijan, you forgot to mention the new pair of lips she bought. Indeed it is a shame that Albanian lung capacity is all you need to get points.

But why is Bosnia so low, that ballad doesn't harm anyone despite the Titanic-flute. Just forget it and everything's fine.
Serbia... is definately nothing special which made me sceptical, but on the other hand it's not bad (better than Paradise ) and that was good enough if you have many potential voters among emigrants and neighbours. 10 points from Sweden was surprisingly high though.
Germany showed up with a real song, not a product of the Swedish factory like the rest of the entries, I like it.

I found myself listening to the national competitions in Georgia and Austria to find out why Tracksnowtaz and the Joker could win there, but I simply just can't get it. Austria had several average to good songs, and Georgia had a pop metal festival where everything was better than the winner.

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posted May 31, 2012 11:54 PM
Edited by Lexxan at 23:57, 31 May 2012.

meh I already wrote #27 yesterday. (spoiler: it's ireland) , but I'll post it tomorrow.

ANd bosnia's song was boring and (more importantly) unmemorable. I can't POSSIBLY drag a song farther than the songs I HATED (and this year, I only hated two) if I can't even REMEMBER what's it like.

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posted June 04, 2012 11:38 PM

I already entered the TOP 20 on Survivor Sucks, so I think it's time to catch up with you guys.




27. IRELAND
Jedward with "Waterline"
19th place





LOLFAIL <3

I love how Jedward FAILED so damn' hard. I expected them to actually do better than last year, as Waterline was a safer, more mainstream song than Lipstick, and mainstream songs tend to do really well (examples: nearly EVERY song by Sweden, Germany 2010/2012, Azerbaijan 2011, Iceland 2009, Greece 2008 etc). But Waterline DELIGHTFULLY failed to live up to its expectations, which ironically means it surpassed MINE (since i expected it to be TOP10 by default and ranked them low as a result since I'm so OVER the Jedwardmania)

Jedwardmania is SUCH an annoying phenomenon. The twins are entertaining, but people exaggerate their potential all the time. They are borderline annoying. They are TERRIBLE singers (terrible!) on top of that. The only reason why Waterline is tolerable is because of the BACKING VOCALS, who OUTSING Jedward. Oh and let's not forget their fanbase, which consists of 14 year old girls who LOVE THOSE CURE GUYS because of how they look X__X. Say what you want, but they look more like a spoof of a Lothlorién elf to me.

I'm sorta losing my passion because I REALLY don't care for the songs in this section, but don't worry, we're getting to the good stuff soon.

Best moment: The fountain is neat.
Worst moment: LORD THEIR SINGING. X__X. Jedward should just playback, honestly.


Backstage: Jedward had a moderately big presence and were actually quite likable; I won't bother skimming through ALL of their vids, but I'll link a vid which perfectly captures the jedward experience: Girlish voices, over the top positivity, an almost grating abuse of the word "CRAY-ZEE" and just overall erratic insanity.

Click Here



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posted June 04, 2012 11:42 PM

26.LATVIA
Anmary with "Beautiful Song"
40th place




WHAT A DISASTER <3<3<3<3

I probably should've put Latvia a bit higher. Although the live preformance was nothing short of bad, it was a hilarious trainwreck from start to finish.

A of all, The hilariously transparent choreopgraphy <3 Truly Desperatve Housewives, Eurovision Edition <3

B of all, the lyrics, which are probably the most introspective, but also most cocky and overconfident lyrics ever. I knew Latvia would fail before the semi and their SHEER overconfidence in everything made it SO much jucier. I also hope Mick Jagger DOES phone her someday.

C of all, Anmary's bad singing. Luckily, Latvia didn't do well, so I can apppreciate her awful vocals for the lolfactor (her off-key note when she sings "GUI-TAR" which is then REPEATED <3 Her voice breaking at least seven times in three minutes <3)

D of all the song's title and chorus. Such blatant lying <3

This and more makes Latvia actually quite lolz, although the song isn't rly that enjoyable or "beautiful" really. So it ranks here

Best moment: The lyrics. I LOVE how over the top and overconfident they are.
Worst moment: "Dad just smiled and gave me my [harpish SHRIEK] GEE-TAWR...... gee-tawr" It was kind of embarassing to hear her falsest note in the entire song be repeated so blatantly, lol.

Backstage: Zip. Anmary didn't have any backstage vids that I can remember. Poor girl. I do happen to know she's a MUSIC teacher though... isn't that ironic, don't you think? =)
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posted June 05, 2012 12:10 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 09:31, 05 Jun 2012.

I liked Latvia. I think the song was pleasent in a sort of underplayed way, which was nice. Not so much over-the-top drama, but the melody was good, and I don't agree that she's a bad singer. I liked that she looked like a transsexual, and the mommy-dancers-backing-singers just added extra lol-factor. I think it was very nice in a sort of corny way, and I would have liked to see it reach the finals. Not a winner perhaps, but definitely one of the better entries for me.
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posted June 14, 2012 09:08 PM

I will update tomorrow. Instead of just posting the stuff here, I'll link provide a link to the actual posts I've written on SS. It's a Real CHORE to repost them on HC, since i have to re-embed all my pictures and videos, adapt the font, edit out the profanities etc.

I'm ALMOST done writing #3, so if everything's on schedule, I'll finish by tomorrow and I've finished a ranking on HC yay!
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posted June 16, 2012 09:29 PM

OK as I promised, the TOP25. I'll just link the indiv posts here. If it doesn't load immediately, don't worry. The server has been overloaded for the past few days <__<

25. Israel
24. Switzerland
23. Slovakia
22. Georgia
21. Slovenia
20. Romania
19. Turkey
18. Cyprus
17. Norway
16. Hungary
15. France
14. San Marino
13. Belarus
12. F.Y.R Macedonia
11. Greece
10. Spain
9. Italy
8. Ukraine
7. Moldova
6. The Netherlands
5. Denmark
4. Estonia
3. Iceland  + an Adoration Station to the best PERSON of this season, Jonsi

The Final 2: Sweden and Russia? Who will win? THE FINAL REVEAL.

THAT'S IT FOLKS :-)

Since Sucks doesn't have a CoC, we are free to use whatever language we like. It may contain strong language (or excessive fantardation) so consider yourselves warned.  :-)
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posted June 16, 2012 09:32 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 21:38, 16 Jun 2012.

Seriously, Turkey as #19? That song was by far the worst of the finals, and the cape boat was the most cringe-worthy moment of the entire show (apart from Montenegros entry which by default trumps everything else).

Other things:

- Greece over Cyprus? At least Cyprus' song was catchy, Greece's entry was just plain boring.
- Denmark at #5 - seriously? Did you fall in sleep 10 seconds in and forgot how boring that entry was?
- Iceland - I just thought it was forgettable, but at least I agree somewhat that Jonsi was hot.
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posted June 16, 2012 09:51 PM

Turkey <3 DRUNKEN FUN FTW!

Eleftheria is wonderful and I actually like it MUCH better than Cyprus. Cyprus is the kind of songs that is beloved by 16-year old girls and well... flamboyant homosexuals lol. I'm neither though.

Denmark wasn't boring to me. I thought it was homely and warming. Every country in the top6 makes me feel better when  i hear it. And I def prefer it to A Friend In London, which iirc, you also hated Alc?

Iceland is EPIC to me. The studio version is PHENOMENAL and the Icelandic version is not far behind in quality. I just LOVE folksy music with a nice poppy twist and Iceland was just that. It is def the best song penned this year, imo.  
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posted June 17, 2012 12:03 AM

No, actually I liked A Friend In London a lot, I thought for once we sent a genuinely catchy song that sounded like it could be an international hit. This years entry was just ... meh ... and it didn't help that one of the writers (Remee) is known from TV here and is a horrible personality.
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posted June 17, 2012 12:48 AM

May we forever differ in musical tastes then <3

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posted June 17, 2012 01:35 AM

I still think Jonsi looks really weird. More like an undead than an elf. I LOVE the song though. To bad the performance sucked and imho, it really didn't diserve third place. I especially love the icelandic version. I'm so happy nobody sees me when I'm home alone, trying to sing Never Forget in icelandic... xD

Also thumbs up for Euphoria winning!
Even though I think the song is overrated, it was still better than any other entry this year.
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posted June 17, 2012 09:31 AM

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May we forever differ in musical tastes then <3

Indeed. I know you also loved Euphoria - to my ears, that was total MOR Europop. Not bad, but just not anything that hadn't been done a hundred times before.
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posted June 17, 2012 09:35 AM

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I'm so happy nobody sees me when I'm home alone, trying to sing Never Forget in icelandic... xD




me too.


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