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revolut1oN
Famous Hero
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posted October 12, 2013 03:57 PM |
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I think you didn't get QPs not because somebody dislikes you or has some problems with you, it's more likely that nobody cares so much about these god damn stars  Not a big deal to my mind.
Edit: Look for Kivo for example. He made an astonishing mod from basically scratch and still he has only 1 red star - less than you do. Yet I don't see him complaining about some unfair conspiracy against him, he just continues sharing his work because that's what he loves. If u work only for those QPs then maybe indeed its better for you not to share anything anymore 
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted October 12, 2013 06:14 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 18:30, 12 Oct 2013.
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revolut1oN said:
I think you didn't get QPs not because somebody dislikes you or has some problems with you, it's more likely that nobody cares so much about these god damn stars Not a big deal to my mind.
Edit: Look for Kivo for example. He made an astonishing mod from basically scratch and still he has only 1 red star - less than you do. Yet I don't see him complaining about some unfair conspiracy against him, he just continues sharing his work because that's what he loves. If u work only for those QPs then maybe indeed its better for you not to share anything anymore
What are these QPs?
I didn't know about them. How they appear?
UPD As I read from FAQ, these red stars are given by moderators for helpful/funny etc posts, when someone asks them to honour post author.
Fred79, maybe there are not many people aware of this red stars system at all? Like me? So that's why there not so many honour marks?
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted October 12, 2013 06:38 PM |
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Moderators give QPs. Either by their free will, or when they agree after some user nominates someone for a specific thread or work in general.
At this subforum the place to go for the later is this thread.
PS: Fred got 2 red stars in the same thread, that isn't something you see everyday...
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted October 12, 2013 07:56 PM |
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My view on the matter, for what is worth:
1) As Storm pointed, you got 2 Qp's for same project. Except Bersy for Era, nobody here got that. Objectively, you received a better welcome than all others.
2) Actually WoG forums have no nominated moderator. It was Cepheus, but he leaved for far lands, then Corribus was appointed only for urgent tasks. Being moderator in OSM, he has little time to browse WoG forum.
3) All other issues you imagine, are simply the result of what I pointed months ago: you are a very perturbed individual, you imagine things, you imagine people ignoring you, singling you, etc. There is nothing of that, but when you insist and harass others, then something happens that way.
4) From the moment you joined, you were always on defensive, looking for confrontation with others. So I am not surprised now, that you decided to leave HC. Professionally I respect your work and I recommended it for both of the QP's you received. Personally and on a more intimate level, I believe that you will feel better out of social forums, seeing that you are unable to handle human interactions properly.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 13, 2013 03:56 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 04:54, 13 Oct 2013.
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@ rev: I have already stated that the stars mean nothing whatsoever to me, they are just badges. It is this community's purpose for them I am addressing, as they are a symbol of respect here.
@ valeriy: HoL received multiple stars for his work, so your claim that Bersy was the only one is clearly false. It would only take a second to check the main page of WoG to see that.
Besides, I wasn't addressing the missing "star" for my last object patch. That was just the last straw, the last thing I was willing to deal with. As I said, I have contributed much more than my object patch to this forum. It is quite clear to me, that had I been someone else, I would have gotten more respect for what I have contributed outside the WoG subforum, and even IN the WoG subforum. Also, to repeat myself, since people cannot read, I put out THREE object patches that received no respect.
And, all that being said, I love how you try to attack my credibility by saying that I cannot handle simple human interaction. I am quite capable of dealing with people. Your continued disrespect towards me personally is particularly evident, valeriy. You are quick to try to discredit someone using personal attacks on their mental capabilities. You are allowed to do so, because you have the community's RESPECT, which is evident in the number of stars you have. So, really, your opinion on anything here is immaterial, as you have the community's respect. As for opinions on this matter, I would much more value the opinion(even though you used your "opinion" as a personal attack) of someone who HAD contributed much, with not much to show for it. But even their opinion would be moot to me, as they are NOT me. They might have a different set of standards completely, from me. So outside opinions have no basis here. My standards are based on respect. It is not people's attention I need. What I need is their respect when I have done something to earn it. Much more so if I have shown them respect myself. If respect is not mutual, then there will obviously be a problem.
So how does any of this relate to me "being confrontational", or "not being able to handle human interactions properly", valeriy?
"From the moment I joined", you were rude to me, valeriy. Anyone who was rude to me, got the attitude they deserved. And you definitely deserved it. You deserve a whole lot MORE attitude, that people here don't give you, because instead, you have their RESPECT.
Finally, I will point out that this is a Game-Modding forum. Yet, there are more stars(respect) given OUTSIDE of the WoG forum, than INSIDE it. I have seen many outside-WoG stars(respect) given to the most ridiculous of posts, as well, requiring virtually no thought or work, merely because that post pleased a mod, or that mod felt like awarding that person for whatever reason. The way this community has given, and gives, respect, is flawed, drastically. And I do not want to be a part of this community any longer.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted October 13, 2013 08:51 AM |
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Fred you are an awesome fellow and a great modder and I don't need to see your stars to know that. You contributed a lot to the Heroes 3 modding and you shouldn't stop because you do not have more red stars.gif under your avatar, they don't serve as a currency, neither as tokens for respect. I don't care if a person has 0Qps or 20Qps, they both are human beings and should be treated with respect.
Don't get angry because people don't treat you with respect, remember this is Internet, there are a lot of trolls and spammers with a sad real life, that under their mask made out of binary make fun out of people because it makes them feel powerful.
When I joined, I didn't have a clue about modding, people were mean to me. made fun of me and insulted me. But I didn't give a **** about them and continued.
Time changes, moderators change and expectations change, years ago in WoG forums moderators would give a QP just for a frame of a creature, isn't that funny? After that modding evolved and ofc the raised expectations.
And remember a post like "wow awesome"," your mod is great, keep working", "this is great" made by a fellow member is worth more than 5 QPs, because this is modding's objective: to enhance the gameplay of players, not to get some stars.gif.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 13, 2013 12:21 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 12:32, 13 Oct 2013.
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LZ, firstly you should know that I respect you, and I appreciate what you are telling me, because "thanks" do matter; without getting positive feedback, I wouldn't have continued at all, all the way up to my last contribution. I probably would have stopped after the 1st or 2nd contribution. But people were interested in my work(if not anything else at all about me), so I continued. As you say, time, moderators, and expectations change. But so does behavior. What you are willing to sit through, I am not, and you are a stronger person for it. I can only take so much, before it starts to really bother me. The bad had started to outweigh the good here, for a long while now. I shrugged it off one last time, contributed, and then received the equivalent of being spat on. I take that very personally, as there are people on here with very personal issues towards me, for whatever reason. Ultimately, the thanks that I was receiving, was more and more rudeness. I would be ignored, my posts deleted by mods, I would be personally attacked by members here. My good side does not thrive in such an environment, my bad side does. This forum was bringing back someone I thought I left behind, as it turns out, he is alive and well, in me.
What it comes down to, LZ, is this:
Using Time:
Months of work = Months of work
"Thanks" = A few minutes of someone's time
therefore;
Months of work > A few minutes of someone's time
Now, add disrespect and outright disdain for myself as an individual, who has exposed much of my personal views and life on this forum. Views shared, thoughtfully expressed, putting time and effort into my posts in the OSM and the Tavern, and then having those same posts ignored, removed, laughed at, etc.
I am much more than just a graphic artist, but that is not what people want. I can accept that(indeed, I accepted that all people want from me are my objects, this is, after all, a game modding forum), as long as I can get respect(what this community views as respect, at least) for what people want. I stopped getting respect for what I was giving them, that they wanted. When the respect stopped, I stopped. Period. Now, the disdain and all the other bad things that I put up with are immaterial, as I will not be here. I can do as I please. I won't be dealing with a black hole that just takes and takes and takes, and scoffs at who I am personally.
In the end, the only way I know I got anything out of my work, are the people who enjoyed it, and my work itself. I'm not so nice a guy, that that is all I require to continue giving what I have worked months on. Granted, I WAS that nice a guy, but since the mistreatment from certain people here over many months, I have reverted back to my old self. That is the best explanation I can give. HC made me my mean old self, and I am certainly not thankful for that. No, I have lost a lot of ground again, and I have to play catch-up, personally, to get back to where I once was.
Know that when I do get back to my better self, I won't be making the same mistake again. I'll be keeping my work from now on. I think some people's plan was: to offend me enough to keep me gone, so that I wouldn't bother them in between my object patches, with my views on things personally in the OSM and the Tavern(that seemed to bother everyone), then come back after my anger was depleted, to give them what they actually want from me. That is what I think they thought would happen. They were wrong, and lost their own game.
Of course people will say I'm paranoid to state that; that keeps them from having their true selves exposed to the community.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted October 13, 2013 07:26 PM |
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fred79 said:
Finally, I will point out that this is a Game-Modding forum. Yet, there are more stars(respect) given OUTSIDE of the WoG forum, than INSIDE it. I have seen many outside-WoG stars(respect) given to the most ridiculous of posts, as well, requiring virtually no thought or work, merely because that post pleased a mod, or that mod felt like awarding that person for whatever reason. The way this community has given, and gives, respect, is flawed, drastically. And I do not want to be a part of this community any longer.
I think you're wrong here, Fred.
Heroes Community is not a Game-Modding forum as you say. HC is a HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC FORUM - with a whole site (Age of Heroes) filled with information of the 6 titles of the series, and in the forum 9 subforums just for the series and M&M.
Since competitive Heroes was important years ago, some subforums where made for that matter (ToH and WH3T, the two on the top).
And, as it usually happens on any big (and not necessarily big really) forum on the internet, off-topic subforums are made to keep them away from the game-oriented ones.
Don't reduce the picture just to the subforum you worked and cry because of that.
And on the last part: yes, there are different moderators with different judgments on different subjects. Is the system flawed? YES, JUST LIKE THE **** WORLD. Each person has a different view on a subject, I'm afraid you won't find a "fair world" on this world, because it isn't.
Oh, and Salamandre has pointed above, there is no fixed moderator assigned to this subforum. You could try to understand the rest more. After all, mods work for free here in a subforum of a 15 year old game.
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Hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted October 13, 2013 07:45 PM |
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Edited by Hippox89 at 19:49, 13 Oct 2013.
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LizardWarrior said:
When I joined, I didn't have a clue about modding, people were mean to me. made fun of me and insulted me. But I didn't give a **** about them and continued.
I definitely agree on this. You make yourself vulnerable when you allow other people to have this kind of influence over you. Don't let them stop you from getting better! Perfection is not a requirement of sharing something you want to get better at, nor is creating an arrogant ego the solution around this. You share because you want to share and get better; not because you want the prise. That's a bonus, but not the goal. That's my take on it, anyhow.
And them silly stars, Fred? You say you don't care about them, but it seems clear that you do. Forget them. They're an artificial, limiting thing. We humans just like making boxes around everything so that we can better cope in a complex, fake world.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 13, 2013 08:32 PM |
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fred79 said:
Using Time:
"Thanks" = A few minutes of someone's time
No. Thanks = someone's time's spent on your mod.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 14, 2013 03:56 AM |
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Look, it's painfully clear to me that you guys do not understand the points I am making at all, and it is also painfully clear to me that you're probably not ever going to. Give it up. Like I said, I'm better off not being here. You all might not be, but oh well. What's done is done, period.
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Humanoid
Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Rest in Peace Juvia (48-499)
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posted December 09, 2013 02:31 PM |
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I installed again and its runs!
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fanofheroes
Famous Hero
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posted February 28, 2014 09:03 PM |
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I've been trying to download the fredobj.exe patch for those amazing images, and I too have been prompted with the error that windows cannot find "games/tools/installmod.exe". Now unlike Drift3R1987, my version does not have the folder at all. I'm using windows 8. I've tried re-installing, but haven't been successful. is there anywhere i can download it separately?
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 28, 2014 11:25 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 23:36, 28 Feb 2014.
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not sure what you mean. the link is here, in this thread, and here, in that thread. both are the same link. i have no idea why you can't get it to run.
or are you referring to era? you can find the latest link here.
in order to run HoMM3(with era) on a windows 8 computer flawlessly, you have to set your computer to run on just 1 processor, as well.
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fanofheroes
Famous Hero
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posted February 28, 2014 11:40 PM |
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I'm prompted to install the file and I'm being asked for a precise destination folder. Perhaps I'm putting it in the wrong area in my heroes 3 folder. Where specifically should I place it?
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fanofheroes
Famous Hero
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posted February 28, 2014 11:45 PM |
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ok followed the last link you posted and it derived a different version. I'll un-install what i have and try this one......and thank you. Hope this works!
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 28, 2014 11:50 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 03:54, 01 Mar 2014.
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if you have era installed, in your "mods" folder. but you have to have era installed first, or you will not have that folder.
to further clarify, do not install Heroes of Might and Magic 3 into your programs(C drive). install it into a folder on your desktop, or something like that. then, install era. after installing era into the heroes folder, then install my objects patch into "Heroes 3/Mods".
and, don't forget to run your computer off of only 1 processor. multiple processors cause the game to crash, or not even run initially.
(missed a letter )
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fanofheroes
Famous Hero
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posted February 28, 2014 11:51 PM |
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it works! omg you guys are sooooo talented =) love the artwork!!!!
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 01, 2014 12:10 AM |
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thanks. glad i could help. 
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robizeratul
Known Hero
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posted April 15, 2014 12:03 PM |
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I don't know why you guys are fighting but I just installed this and it's amazing! Some are at the same level ( even better) than the original heroes 3 game.
thank you fred!
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