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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted October 26, 2013 06:23 AM |
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Hurrah! Just won Swiss with my Academy Myranda...now won a Swiss with all factions! Officially now have every single card!
Getting there! 4 left....and it's the most difficult ones (jackpots)!
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted October 26, 2013 10:15 AM |
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted October 27, 2013 11:37 AM |
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted October 27, 2013 03:44 PM |
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Played him in the JP, think he had a Dham build....
Hey, Nameless, I tried your Cassa build for JP but lost a few games...not sure if I was playing it correctly...
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted October 28, 2013 12:11 PM |
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game is at a good point in time now,I'll be waiting next year for future expansion featuring dungeon, sylvan, fortress and maybe the ubi crew decides and presents an Ylath faction already.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 28, 2013 09:29 PM |
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Aaaah man, playing jackpot and it's depressing me...
I am playing Crag Hack. What is everyone talking about that Crag and Ammar are the strong ones in JP???
I have 17 wins and 14 losses and it's been a real waste of time grinding...Crag Hack just sucks in my opinion, it's so rush and up and down, no guarantees.
All I want is T1...that's all...too much to ask for?
Can someone please give me a deck that gets T1 guaranteed with easy to learn?
Yours faithfully
Loser deck.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 28, 2013 10:21 PM |
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You are probably missing something or were unlucky. The current meta favours Crag quite a bit, I have been playing him successfully for a short while now.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 28, 2013 10:36 PM |
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Edited by EvilNuff at 22:37, 28 Oct 2013.
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NamelessOrder said:
Evil_Nuff: 10-0 on JP, wow, great!, which deck?
Lol, crag hack actually. I have no faith in any decks right now so I just went with one that didn't require thought only luck...and I got lucky.
Edit: Also with ladder then 10-0 in JP and more ladder I managed a 33 game win streak with Crag Hack as well. So honestly right now that's what I would consider the best chance at T1.
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 28, 2013 10:42 PM |
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DoubleDeck said:
Played him in the JP, think he had a Dham build....
Hey, Nameless, I tried your Cassa build for JP but lost a few games...not sure if I was playing it correctly...
I have tried Dhamiria in the past and even hit a T1 with her. However, I am in a minority in that I think she is not a good deck. Let me explain...if you play flawlessly, with zero mistakes, then yes she has a shot against any deck. However, of all the top decks out there I think Dhamiria is the least able to handle mistakes or bad luck...any little thing and you just lose. So really if you are a machine and can play perfectly 100% of the time she is good...otherwise my personal opinion is that she is actually a bad deck. (Yes I understand this is a minority opinion.)
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 28, 2013 11:03 PM |
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I respect more the heroes that require skill to be strong. Dhamiria is certainly one of those heroes.
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted October 28, 2013 11:39 PM |
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@EvilNuff about Dhamiria
Never played Dhamiria (don't have the hero nor the WCs to buy her) but as far as i know she's the most reliable hero in the game meaning that she has a real chance vs almost any other hero. Yeah, she's countered by Malik but not as hard as my Cassa is countered by her.
@EvilNuff about CragHack
This deck is super good and nobody should feel ashamed to use it. Having said that i just don't get it how can people get such high winrates with Crag Hack. Cassa is said to become more popular and she counters CH hard.
@DD about Crag Hack
I'd recommend sticking to CH when going in JP and just don't play when you see me around  . Since you've played for achievements you don't have much experience with one specific hero and CH is by far the simplest (imho - i played CH). Currently the 1st guy on JPT-ladder in a Crag Hack player - Naveon. Please read this, very carefully: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/801982-Crag-Hack-(Tier-1)-Guide
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Anyway, after every JP i checked my history and jot down my outcomes vs >1,5k ELO players only. Maybe you're interested in results:
Some notes:
- my best matchup is vs Crag Hack right now, used to be Ammar, but new Ammars are much better than the first ones
- i'm winning with Ishuma but the duels always seems rather equal
- Dhalmiria is just... i don't know how....
- Sandal control (so called gaydalphone) is becoming popular
- i'm weak vs Sandal so this 3-5 might be misleading
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 05:42 AM |
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I ran Crag again today and went 15-5 good for 297 telo and *finally* broke 1501 elo. (This was after hitting 1500 even twice and losing and 1493 and losing as well.)
So now that I don't really care about elo I want to branch out and try some more decks. I can make any deck in the game so time to explore more.
NamelessOrder (btw that was a guild on my old EQ server Prexus ) Are those stats all with you as Cass?
Re: Dhamiria
Agreed she has a chance vs any hero and in any game. However, I think you have to play perfectly with her. If you play perfect with no mistakes you can win any game. If you make even a few small mistakes you can get crushed hard by lots of different heroes and even bad decks/players. She is, IMO, the most advanced deck in the game right now.
Re: Crag
I actually only played 1 game vs Cass in my 77 games with Crag. Honestly the deck just works, even with bad draws a lot. Its fast enough to beat bad players/decks and good players and decks still make mistakes against it and play wrong. If you know how to beat it and don't get a terrible draw and Crag doesn't get a god draw its easy to beat.
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 06:47 AM |
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EvilNuff said:
Are those stats all with you as Cass?
Yes. After every jackpot i open History Viewer and check every duel vs elo>1,5k players
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 07:58 AM |
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NamelessOrder said:
@DD about Crag Hack
I'd recommend sticking to CH when going in JP and just don't play when you see me around . Since you've played for achievements you don't have much experience with one specific hero and CH is by far the simplest (imho - i played CH). Currently the 1st guy on JPT-ladder in a Crag Hack player - Naveon. Please read this, very carefully: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/801982-Crag-Hack-(Tier-1)-Guide
Thanks for this guide...maybe Stampede is the trick....
I was using the following build as Crag:http://www.mmdoc.net/show_deck/15088/
Yes, I have played for achievements, but I do have lots of experience with single heroes. Garant and Adar are my favorites and highly successful in Swisses. But Jackpots are a different story...so tried Crag Hack but unsuccessful, only 55% win ratio.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 09:44 AM |
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DoubleDeck said:
NamelessOrder said:
@DD about Crag Hack
I'd recommend sticking to CH when going in JP and just don't play when you see me around . Since you've played for achievements you don't have much experience with one specific hero and CH is by far the simplest (imho - i played CH). Currently the 1st guy on JPT-ladder in a Crag Hack player - Naveon. Please read this, very carefully: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/801982-Crag-Hack-(Tier-1)-Guide
Thanks for this guide...maybe Stampede is the trick....
I was using the following build as Crag:http://www.mmdoc.net/show_deck/15088/
Yes, I have played for achievements, but I do have lots of experience with single heroes. Garant and Adar are my favorites and highly successful in Swisses. But Jackpots are a different story...so tried Crag Hack but unsuccessful, only 55% win ratio.
There is a pretty solid guide about Crag Hack on DoC forums, from the guy that reached 1501 with it, and was getting to a T1 quite a lot with him.
He is running pretty much the same deck I am, the changes from the deck you linked would be:
-4x Blood Shaman Hut
-1x Serpentfly
-2x Sahaar Brute
-1x Vulture Rider
+4 Tainted Orcs
+3 Stampede
+1 Oliphant
That guy isn't running Zefiria, but I find her pretty amazing in Crag Hack deck.
The thing that Crag isn't just strong rush deck, but can also play later in the game. Even though, he isn't as strong in the late game, I won a lot of game with massing Tainted Orcs and Vulture Riders and enemy just didn't have enough creatures to block them and I was massing too fast, or didn't have enough removal/Mana Storms were in play.
There are many variations of Crag Hack decks, there isn't a strict rule what you should play, but that guy on Ubi Forums explains everything in details.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 12:03 PM |
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With Crag, interesting creatures to add might be the Rogue Merchant....even though attack costs 1, the 4 health is good for a potential 1 drop with special..
This creature would replace the Sea Archer...
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 03:12 PM |
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DoubleDeck said:
With Crag, interesting creatures to add might be the Rogue Merchant....even though attack costs 1, the 4 health is good for a potential 1 drop with special..
This creature would replace the Sea Archer...
I've tried it, it is quite solid since it is tanky, goes well with Blackskull Goblins(I am using 2 of them), and with special, for 2 costs you can deal 4 damage to some creatures with him in combination with sacrificial altar.
But, I wouldn't replace Sea Elf Archers with it, but probably 2 Vulture for 2 Rogues or maybe 2 Harpies for 2 Rogues.
Crag(and Stronghold in general) is quite heavy on melee creatures, so removing range creatures won't help.
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 04:10 PM |
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Vulture Riders are possibly the 2nd or 3rd best creature after DAs. They combine with sacrificial altar so well it is incredible. Additionally when you get Zerfiria out VR is a very mobile heavy hitter who can hit from either front or back line.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 04:13 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 16:16, 29 Oct 2013.
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EvilNuff said:
Vulture Riders are possibly the 2nd or 3rd best creature after DAs. They combine with sacrificial altar so well it is incredible. Additionally when you get Zerfiria out VR is a very mobile heavy hitter who can hit from either front or back line.
Yeah, my mistake, I was thinking about Neutral Vultures, not Vulture Riders.
Replacing Vulture Riders with Rogue Mercenaries wouldn't make any sense. 
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted October 29, 2013 05:33 PM |
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ok so it is time to hang up my haven boots, ive had my way with sand and morgan with relative success, nothing spectacular might i add - and quite honestly im just bored of haven [would love to try nameless cass deck] but not right now!!!!
ive attempted a hakeem build, which once again has had some relative success but at the mo, i lack any creative solutions to my build flaw!!
Dave showed me an awesome sanc deck which i am keen to try, and the infamous crag hack deck is def something i want to re-build as well.
@double congrats on your achievements. i believe this is perhaps the only thing keeping me interested in the game, reaching 1501 is a double edge sword, great to be there... but where to from here. In retrospect my climb with my nerg deck was perhaps the most exciting time i had in doc =)
i am currently sitting on 91/120 in my achievements - so perhpas must actually focus on this!!
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