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Minion
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posted April 01, 2015 11:33 AM |
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It's a deal ^^  I promise not to play Priest when you watch 
Yeah anyone else too reading this thread feel free to ask me. Oh yeah did you notice the new feature where it tells you what top percentage you are in? You hover over the rank at the quests info, rank 18 seems to be exactly 50%.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 01, 2015 11:45 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 12:46, 02 Apr 2015.
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Minion said:
It's a deal ^^ I promise not to play Priest when you watch
Please, be my guest. Maybe I'll finally learn how to play him 
EDIT: Made an Arena run today with quite a decent Mage deck. 5-3. Would've been better, but my last two fights with Mages were really close, had an upper hand most of the time, but they top-decked things like Flamestrikes etc. Just the right cards for the right moment. Funny thing is, I opened the prize pack and "Mogor the Ogre" was in it. Does he even have a use? My thoughts are that he only plays into some gimmicky fun decks. Any ideas for decent use guys, or should I just dust him? His actually not that bad stat-wise, but his ability... ergh...
Oh, and I crafted Flame Leviathan! Just kidding, April Fools...
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Actually I crafted Onyxia (had to dust one of my Ancients of War though, but no biggie, cause he's just the type of minion that is perfectly fine being one per deck). So f*ck the system, Black Dragons rule! (still, she's a neutral so more uses then Jaraxxus). GOtta celebrate that BRM release somehow! Oh and thanks for your advice guys, it helped me make my decision.
Two Legendaries in one day. Nice! "Family with Issues" Pally, here I come!!!
PS: It's funny that Ysera's between Onyxia and Deathwing Wonder where Nelfarian will nest...
EDIT 2: Theorycrafted my "Family Issues" deck. Thoughts?
1x Avange
1x Noble Sacrifice
1x Worgen Infiltrator
1x Equality
1x Annoy-o-Tron
1x Faerie Dragon
1x Shielded Minibot
1x Coghammer
1x Aldor Peacekeeper
1x Big Game Hunter
2x Blackwing Technician
1x Truesilver Champion
2x Blessing of Kings
2x Consecration
1x Dragonkin Sorcerer
2x Hungry Dragon
2x Blackwing Corruptor
2x Dragon Consort
1x Sludge Belcher
1x Draconid Crusher
1x Emperor Thaurissan
1x Nefarian
1x Onyxia
1x Deathwing
So basically 1-3 mana is for early board control. Sticky and hard to remove minions plus some secrets. Consecration for board control plus additional Equality (though I dislike this card I think it's rather an double-edged sword in non Zoo decks, but it could prove essential for board control). Weapons also. Blackwing T is when it starts to become interesting. She's pretty decent with her Battlecry and I think there will always be at least one dragon in hand. I'm thinking about that Dragonkin Sorcerer cause I don't have too many spells but one Blessing and he's a beast. BGH and Sludge just in case (plus BGH fits mana curve ). Corruptors for board, Hungries and Consorts for tempo. One can wonder if Crusher will find it's use, and while there can be better cards in this slot he fits the theme of the deck and can prove to be deadly if not taken care of (though because of the decks "controlish" nature his Battlecry can become obsolete :/). Emperors a no-brainer, he's there to push the Black Dragon family for their ultimate attack (though Deathwing is rather an escape rope  ). I decided to not include Volcanic Drake cause I don't have that many cheap minions for trading, but who knows...
I know this deck lacks some nice combos or that I could throw some more useful Legendaries/fat minions, but I wanted to keep the Dragon theme as much as possible. Plus this deck is for fun, not competitive
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Minion
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posted April 02, 2015 01:45 PM |
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Looks like fun!
The 3 and 4 drops are sooo good I would love seeing one Blessing of Wisdom. It combos with Dragonkin Sorcerer and would offer some card draw, but here I don't know where it would even fit lol. Also have you considered Zombie Chow instead of WOrgen Infiltrator for even stronger early game? Avenge makes it a 5/5 which is huuge, compared to only 5/3 of Worgen.
That Coghammer turn 3 will be veeeery good with Hungry Dragon turn 4, because it can remove any 1-mana minion! ^^
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 02, 2015 02:40 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 14:42, 02 Apr 2015.
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Yeah it's hard to fit Blessing of Wisdom in this, but I doubt draw is that important for this deck. But I'll take it into account. And personally I hate Zombie Chow. Imo his overhyped. I know his great for early control, but I say his Deathrattle nullifies all advantages. Believe me when I say that this always backfires in my case. Either in Play Mode or Arena. And because of the said ability he's useless in later phases of the game as every HP counts (well maybe only in Priest with Auchenai). So no, thank you. Worgen is 1 mana, and I needed some 1 mana minion for turn 1 without coin, and he's great for trading with 3/2 minions.
Well I'll have to wait 5 weeks to test this deck as a whole, though I wouldn't have time in the coming weeks either way, so it's ok
Oh and didn't think of Coghammer in that way thanks! I was rather thinking about it's DS+Taunt Battlecry for defensive measures...
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 02, 2015 03:02 PM |
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Oh yeah, and it has negative synergy with Crusher too. I don't like the card either tbh, it is one of those cards that is balanced in a way that it is super strong (strongest 1-drop stat wise) early and super duper weak late. So swingy depending when you draw it.
Haha, yeah. 5 long weeks. Can't wait. Luckily each wing gives you a Legendary, so they are not all stacked at the 5th week.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 02, 2015 04:08 PM |
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Minion said:
Oh yeah, and it has negative synergy with Crusher too. I don't like the card either tbh, it is one of those cards that is balanced in a way that it is super strong (strongest 1-drop stat wise) early and super duper weak late. So swingy depending when you draw it.
Twilight Whelp would be a perfect Zombie Chow for a Dragons deck, but unfortunately it's class specific. And that class is Priest :/ Imo they should've made it a neutral, it would make a Dragon-oriented deck more viable overall
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 02, 2015 04:28 PM |
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Edited by Minion at 16:29, 02 Apr 2015.
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Oh I missed their patch update, great news : Yesterdays Patch
"Tirion now silences himself when summoned, for convenience"
"Fixed a bug with Thoughtsteal where playing it would sometimes fail to steal your opponent’s best cards."
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted April 02, 2015 04:38 PM |
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I would put azure drake- one of the stronger cards before expansions, still good but n dragon deck it should be even better (especially with concetration)
I do not like noble sacrfice, instad would put some cheap crerature (maybe this bot 2/2, really good)
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 02, 2015 10:12 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:21, 02 Apr 2015.
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JotunLogi said:
I would put azure drake- one of the stronger cards before expansions, still good but n dragon deck it should be even better (especially with concetration)
Thought about it but that +1 spell damage doesn't seem to be that useful for "Concetration" () only (too situational and I'll probably be using it for early board control and it's quite an expensive combo). The only thing that comes to my mind is a combo with Azure and a spell turn after Nefarian spawned sth good, but it seems too gimmicky...
JotunLogi said:
I do not like noble sacrfice, instad would put some cheap crerature (maybe this bot 2/2, really good)
One Shieldbot seems sufficient. I'm thinking of a second Faerie just to troll that Frostbolts The thing is I'm very fond of Noble Sacrifice+Avenge combo (Defender is a minion and thus he triggers Avenge so even if you have one minion on board it still gets boosted). It works for me very often as I start many games with these two Secrets on hand.
BTW I'm trying a Mogor and Ogres Warrior deck right now and it's quite fun. It's my variant of Charge Worgen deck, but without all those Armor cards (it' has a rather aggressive style) and with a couple of Ogres and not that much removal. Not that successful (like 50-50), its main problem being that I'm getting most combos late (it's bad because I have to wait for some cards to successfully play some minions so they clogging my hand) or non at all, but at least it's something fresh and fun for me. I think Mogor is a decent Legendary (it's funny when all my opponents small minions crash into him because of his effect) so it would be a shame to just dust him.
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted April 02, 2015 11:30 PM |
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The logic is that if you have a card that is so good you want one of em. You usually want two of em. The only exceptions are utility cards, like healbot or bgh.
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted April 02, 2015 11:44 PM |
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well, even if azure drake's + 1 spell damage is not that useful for pally, drawing a card is always welcome (only in eexceptional situations is bad)
2 faerie dragon should be good- always annoying for the opponent + in order to make the dragon deck most efficient as possbile, it must be as drakonish as possible
The problems I see (as with all fun decks) are:
- very rushy meta that can quicly outmatch and is hard to counter
- not many heal (even worse against meta and rushy decks)
- deck is quite slow
- as fun to play deck and first try deck, t has to face control and rushy decks that all have 100% card synergy
I want to make half beast- half dragon deck, that would be interesting. although I know that kill command will be less efficient and hunter with weak mass removals is forced to count on luck
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted April 02, 2015 11:54 PM |
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The problem with hearthstone is that you face people who want to win so badly, dammit!
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted April 03, 2015 12:01 AM |
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or bots. A lot of bots.
 to bots~!
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 03, 2015 01:58 AM |
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Oh my the RNG gods love me I have two Shades hidden in a Druid vs Druid match up. I play a piloted Shredder, and another one too. Shades are 4/4 and 5/5 now, still keeping them hidden. Opponent attacks and both my Shredders give Explosive Sheeps! Yes, from a winning position into a losing one ^^ But was a fun game nevertheless.
The Emperor is sweet, but I managed to get him 2 times when the game was near end and I had 2 cards left in hand anyways. So no help. But once I got him on curve and my opponent just conceded next turn because he couldn't remove it immediately ;P
Tried the Gang Up card as well, no luck yet haha. It must fit some kind of Fatigue Rogue. It is like Dublicate but the cards go into your deck instead of hand so it is a bit "meh" Yes I cast it on Fire Elementals but I never get to see them before I am dead ;/
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 03, 2015 07:50 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 08:01, 03 Apr 2015.
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@JotunLogi
I'm aware about things you pointed out, but we cannot all live in the terror of Facehunters and other fast decks (btw I have quite good results with them, I've won more then I lost with various decks). I'm aware that the problem lies mostly in ranked, but I don't play ranked (only to rank 20 for cardbacks, but that takes like 30 min with a winning streak ). Otherwise you can just concede Hunters. I really hope meta will shift somehow, at least for a while when BRM wings will be released (though I will not have that much time to play at this time ). Quick Shot makes you think otherwise though...
Apart from that, my Dragon deck has quite a nice Mana curve imo, see image below:
I really hope for that mana reduction abilities of Consorts and Emperor. Well one of the bigger downsides of this deck is that Deathwing (for an S ranked minion) is not good for that final push, plus is practically obsolete with Onyxia for instance, but I can only imagine a Zoo deck and him played turn eight with Consort (that is if I manage to stall them for that long with my lesser minions)
@Minion
That's nothing compared to one of my recent games with my "Mogor Warrior" deck. My opponent, a Shaman, has 3 strong minions, one of them being Sneed. I have an empty board and play Mogor (for those who don't remember, his 7/6). His ability starts to trigger. First minion face, second face, Sneeds left and he gets killed by Mogor. Oh yeah my opponent also played Baron Rivendare turn before I played Mogor. Suddenly his board's left with a lot of minions and like three Sneeds cause he also played two Ancestral Spirits (!) on him before. Did I mention I had a lot of HP and my opponent was left with 7 HP? That's right, LETHAL! Unfortunately Mogor hit one of his minions... gg. I'm really pissed I didn't take a snapshot
So Mogor is great for defense, but attack... well, that's how gimmicky this card is
@DagothGares
I have more of a fun approach, but it's always a little sour when you loose by a horse's nail. I can understand those "I wanna win" players a bit. Aside from bots and trolls, it's really irritating when you grind for that last win to complete daily and you keep loosing. You want to take decks that have a high percentage of win...
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JotunLogi
Known Hero
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posted April 03, 2015 12:37 PM |
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I think that it is the highest time to add some new card types...
honestly, aside from mechs, dragons and beasts. there could be:
- gnomes & dwarves
- goblins
- ogres & giants
- elves
- undead
+ some changes- like yeti being a beast
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 03, 2015 02:24 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 14:31, 03 Apr 2015.
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I'd rather see some new mechanic, class (though this is highly doubtful seeing some recent Blizzard comments on this matter) or a new mode. For instance Amaz has a really nice Monk class concept, that I would really like to see in the game (here's hoping that Amaz, being a popular streamer that he is, will have some influence on Blizzard). Or at least new deck slots for f*'s sake. New minion tribes are rather a given seeing how Mechs were added in GvG, and we'll be getting another card-only expansion next...
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emilsn91
Supreme Hero
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posted April 03, 2015 04:10 PM |
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Easiest wing ever!
I only lost against the Emperor because his wife triggered a freezing trap. :S
But the mage challenge was really fun.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 03, 2015 05:43 PM |
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The wing went like a breeze. I've only lost to Grim Guzzler once cause I accidentally triggered a couple of Patrons, enough to kill me
The "Arena" challenge was fun with all those Legendaries and comments (I wonder how many comments there are but didn't want to stall too much). And yeah, Mage challenge was the best. So... many... possibilities. And yeah, I did get Nozdromu (why the heck is he summoned so often by Portals?).
Keep in mind most of us played Hearthstone for quite some time now. No wonder some of these battles might seem easy...
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted April 03, 2015 06:11 PM |
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They were easy, but I guess mostly they are for fun too. The Heroic Bosses are for a challenge. I haven't beaten the second boss on Heroic yet, if he makes those four 1/1 taunts it is over. Or maybe I need a lot of Windfury, maybe Shaman... hmm.
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