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posted January 03, 2015 09:01 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 21:03, 03 Jan 2015.
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Salamandre said:
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But as long as these things do not hurt others, what does it matter? Why should people not be able to live in liberty and peace?
Actually you are the perfect example of what I call gays lack of decency, provocative push-over of the limits, and why gay propaganda should be closely watched, thank you for such brilliant example. As you did today by adding that diarrhea thread with dick sucking, infected penises as main subjects, I pass the rest or I will puke. On the top of our glorious HC, sanctuary of our most creative artworks, sanctuary of such many creative and passioned discussions.
This is the main problem with out of ordinary things: you can't categorize them so they soon go out of hand. Imagine the uneasiness if a straight guy started a thread, with such crusty details about a girl he banged: mods wouldn't let it 1 hour online and all of you would call to lynch. But as it is now, the thread is still there, gloriously wallowing in its pestilent smelling.
Good luck all with your absolute tolerance, today it showed its rotten side. And I can say is rather ugly.
It's fine that you don't enjoy my thread. A lot of people obviously do. But what's interesting to me is what political implications you make out of it. Should people be coerced from behaviour that in no way is an aggresson on another, but annoys/disgusts/alienates you personally?
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posted January 03, 2015 09:47 PM |
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bloodsucker said:
I since I would probably already asked how babies were made, probably in front of some cousin carrying one, I would immediately associate both problems and ask very "complicated questions".
I wouldn't consider those to be particularly complicated questions. If they ask how same-sex couples have children, you simply tell them - they adopt, or one of the partners is the biological patent.
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posted January 03, 2015 10:44 PM |
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If they ask how same-sex couples have children, you simply tell them - they adopt, or one of the partners is the biological patent.
Have you ever tried that politically correct way with a child? I see so many other questions just waiting to be asked.
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posted January 03, 2015 10:47 PM |
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Have you? Children are much more accepting of the world than you may think.
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posted January 03, 2015 11:09 PM |
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If they have additional questions, how likely are they be to be difficult to answer? They're just kids, after all.
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posted January 03, 2015 11:13 PM |
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It is always better to be frank and honest with children. Parents fearing about the questions their children they might ask are not scared for their children - they're scared for having to answer a question that makes them uncomfortable.
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posted January 04, 2015 07:52 AM |
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Edited by Orzie at 07:54, 04 Jan 2015.
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You have no right to decide what people consider impolite or not. The question is, whether personal views in that regard should have legal consequences.
I consider that impolite and embarassing, it hurts my psychic and distracts me from my thoughts, so that I can freely express my thoughts on this point. Or maybe I slept in an ice cube for 50 years so expressing thoughts has become prohibited?
Other than that, I cannot stand a gay couple kissing on the street whatsoever, and there are a real snowing lot of people who think the same, and you cannot deny that or call that absurdic since it's real. You can consider banning all public kissing (at least on the streets and in the public places) as a compromise. The main trouble of the 'gay right defenders' is that they barely can go for a compromise, so there is no surprise that their ideas are so poorly welcomed.
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We have the Men Talk about Girls and other threads where there were times it got quite graphical, (though none of us can match Xerox regarding that), it wasnt banned or anything, there were direct discussions about porn, body of women, std...
Who remembers that thread? Everyone is discussing Xerox' private life.
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posted January 04, 2015 08:02 AM |
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No one's stopping you from expressing your thoughts. What we're trying to stop is people using force to stop couples from kissing in public. You can voice your disapproval all you like, as long as you don't actually stop them.
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posted January 04, 2015 08:08 AM |
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Edited by Orzie at 08:08, 04 Jan 2015.
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We will see how you will find such stopping words after the entire mass of people of the old generation will finally see gays demonstrating their sexual preferences in any place they like with their common manner, i.e. LOOK EVERYONE I'M GAY AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU DON'T CARE.
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posted January 04, 2015 10:24 AM |
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You are pretty ridiculous, Orzie, because you come up with the same crap "the old generation" told the young ones 50 years ago. Kissing in public? Indecent behaviour! Hair covering part of the ears? Need a haircut! "Beat Music"? Sounds like monkeys. Clothing, you name it.
And then the whole generation was totally in your face, making fun of all the old values.
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Other than that, I cannot stand a gay couple kissing on the street whatsoever, and there are a real snowing lot of people who think the same, and you cannot deny that or call that absurdic since it's real. You can consider banning all public kissing (at least on the streets and in the public places) as a compromise. The main trouble of the 'gay right defenders' is that they barely can go for a compromise, so there is no surprise that their ideas are so poorly welcomed.
So what? There are a lot of people who can't stand women not covering their face and hair. Would you say, ok, all women have to cover their faces and hair now, as a compromise?
Which is, however, what you have to do - just because "a real snowing lot of people" feel one way or another - based on ages of bias - you can't make it law. Because in that case we'd still stone everyone "being different".
What I can't stand is bias and ignorance, and it would be great if that would hurt - but it doesn't. People have a right to be biassed and ignorant; you can't make a law against it, just because "a sbowing lot of people" would like to take bats and hammer reason and tolerance into that sort of people. In the end, I don't need to put up with it.
I also cannot stand people telling you or anyone else what God told us to do and especially not to do - but they won't stop, will they? Still, I don't have to listen.
So let them stick their tongues into each others mouth, if they want to. There should be more pressing problems than that
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posted January 04, 2015 10:42 AM |
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Edited by orzie at 10:45, 04 Jan 2015.
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Don't compare public kissing with long hair, and I will not compare homosexuality with incest and zoophilia. These comparisons have pretty same proof basis if I am to use your kind of arguments.
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posted January 04, 2015 11:17 AM |
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That isn't the point JJ is trying to make, however? The point is that, even if a noticeable group of people disapprove of something, there's nothing (legal) they can do to ban it, because personal opinions and/or impressions are subjective and therefore not viable criteria for what other should or shouldn't be doing.
In other words, you are entitled to your opinion such as we all are, but if something offends you, the best thing is to simply look the other way.
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posted January 04, 2015 11:54 AM |
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I've never really understood why some people have such a problem with homosexuality. Maybe it is because I wasn't raised in a religious household, but I really don't see the problem; it doesn't affect anyone in any sort of way. This is just how I feel about it.
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posted January 04, 2015 12:08 PM |
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Edited by artu at 13:03, 04 Jan 2015.
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Orzie said:
Who remembers that thread? Everyone is discussing Xerox' private life.
Everybody remembers that thread, it's a classic 
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Sal said:
Imagine the uneasiness if a straight guy started a thread, with such crusty details about a girl he banged: mods wouldn't let it 1 hour online and all of you would call to lynch. But as it is now, the thread is still there, gloriously wallowing in its pestilent smelling.
Here, he tries to make it sound like an example of how "gay propaganda" is all over the place but straight people would be shunned if they acted the same way. The problem is
a)There's nothing against the CoC in Xerox's thread and it's certainly not very graphical about the details of his intercourse, we just happened to learn he did it in the water without a condom.
b)Same amount of detail about sex life had been shared and talked about by many straight people here, the only difference is, it didn't irritate Sal, so he doesn't remember them in such a context.
c)You can't suggest to outlaw something out of personal distaste.
Now, I don't think the problem here is mainly the illogical contradictions of the arguments themselves, the things is, both Sal and you are decent and enlightened enough people, not to say things like "all gays shall burn in hell, what an abomination" etc, yet, you are also not completely at comfort with them either, you don't condemn gays directly but you feel irritated by them and that emotion produces a lot of irrational, very easy to refute arguments, arguments that are "tip dancing" as JJ calls them or "crazy sounding" as DG calls them, since they are the product of a sentiment rather than a notion of a just social policy.
I don't like watching gays kiss no more than you do, my impulsive reaction would be to turn my head away, yet, if you don't feed up your own sentiment as some sort of political crusade and deal with it, you'll find it is not something that is very hard to adjust to, and it's really not the most disgusting of things really, Sal talks about double standards all the time, I wonder how he would feel if a group of people talked about his sexuality as something as disgusting as eating insects or something.
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posted January 04, 2015 03:58 PM |
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This is a forum, not a court law. People express their opinions based on their sensibility. Sensibility is an scalable gift, it depends on your roots, environment, country culture and personal story. No one proposes here a law, but displays the base of his feelings.
JJ, you cannot comprehend such unknown concepts to you. Everywhere you join a thread, your screams start by "you are ridiculous" or "this is pseudo[...]", which only shows that your human sensibility and communication abilities are close to amoeba level. You ignore everything about Russians culture, or about my personal story. What gives you the right to tell me or Orzie how we should feel the things, and on that tone?
Actually you just snowed this thread the moment you joined, everything went polite until that. Do you really think you are more persuasive if you go aggressive? You can snow yourself then, people will just walk away and ignore you.
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posted January 04, 2015 04:20 PM |
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Salamandre said:
This is a forum, not a court law. People express their opinions based on their sensibility. Sensibility is an scalable gift, it depends on your roots, environment, country culture and personal story. No one proposes here a law, but displays the base of his feelings.
Yet homophobic people in this thread keep implying that gays should be legally restricted from kissing in public and such.
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Salamandre
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posted January 04, 2015 04:22 PM |
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verriker
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posted January 04, 2015 04:23 PM |
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wow, lots of backwards homophobes and nimbyism in here. can't imagine why anyone would think tolerance is a pejorative lol
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artu
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posted January 04, 2015 04:45 PM |
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Salamandre said:
Show where.
Orzie suggested it many times, he even said he was okay with public kissing to be banned completely if necessary. It came up in many of his posts, too many to quote.
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Salamandre
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posted January 04, 2015 04:49 PM |
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For someone such picky on details, you are pretty bad intentioned here. From start, Orzie told he is embarrassed by all form of intimacy in public, straight and gay. He never asked for such law towards the gays, but seems that you the gang guys need to twist what others say, so you can look having the upper hand.
Which is really not important to my eyes anyway.
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