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posted August 06, 2020 11:49 AM |
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Just wait a sec. If you look at the Netherlands statistics again, go to week 14 in 2020. You can read 5080 deaths. Expected: 3111. So the excess mortality in that wekk is nearly 2000. If you go further to week 15, the cursor says 4972 deaths, with 2906 expected, so we are at an excess mortality of over 2000 in THAT week.
And you quote a text part that speaks of an excess mortality of 1189 and think you have found something? Yep, honesty and reading comprehension.
And after all this I have still no clue what you are trying to prove? That this is all a joke? That no one knows anything?
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posted August 06, 2020 12:05 PM |
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@ zeno: i would say they wouldn't make it, except Trump got in because the masses were sick of the usual bs being pushed.
Both sides have become polarized, with centrists diminishing. Despite that, it IS still possible.
If only a working-class centrist with no ties to either party, no ties to the rich, no ties to any corporate-level entities or government groups/agencies, who backed the Constitution and it's decent, law-abiding taxpayers 1000%, who was a true patriot who valued honor, integrity, and what our founding fathers stood for(and against, to the death) above any and ALL kinds of personal gain...
But that's just wishful thinking. 
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posted August 06, 2020 12:25 PM |
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fred79 said:
But that's just wishful thinking.
It is, no way that guy would climb the latter of even the Green Party (not saying they are better, just that the latter might be smaller...). Just think how the DNC colluded with the establishment press to remove Bernie from the run, even before it started.
You may not want it but the only way the system is going to change is by rioting. True second amendment rioting, civil war with thousands of deaths and trillions on property losses. And you aren't ready for that yet.
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posted August 06, 2020 12:29 PM |
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Ridiculous. Not counting the Civil War, major reforms or amendments happened through people working within the system.
Riots are good at giving the guillotine overtime work.
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posted August 06, 2020 12:33 PM |
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As I said: you aren't ready for that yet.
Just hear what a Pelosian has to say...
Let's continue debating if thumbs should be yellow.
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posted August 06, 2020 12:33 PM |
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fredmuffin said:
centrist
those people have no balls. Just look at Carl Benjamin, aka Soyboy of Mossad ffs.
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posted August 06, 2020 08:02 PM |
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I'm a centrist, and i have balls.
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posted August 06, 2020 09:53 PM |
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Centrists with balls are those who are left-leaning economically and right-wing socially, have a knack for nationalism and...
What I'm trying to say is that y'all should abandon these crooks and get into the third way train, fascism done right, the Giovanni Gentile style.
True fascism has never been attempted.
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posted August 06, 2020 10:11 PM |
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fred79 said:
I'm a centrist, and i have balls.
Sounds like the perfect slogan to win the race, freddie. If Kanye West is giving it a go, why not you?
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posted August 07, 2020 01:53 AM |
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No joke; i actually considered it. For a mere 5 minutes thought on funding such a move and everything i'd have to know to even have a decent plan and be adequately prepared, i realized i was not only the wrong demographic(no family of my own), but my history would never allow such a thing to get off the ground.
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posted August 07, 2020 07:34 AM |
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fredmuffin said:
I'm a centrist, and i have balls.
One in a million. At best.
so, let's say your plan comes to pass. you and what army are going to impose the changes you proposed? certainly not other centrists who pretty much flip flop on every bloody issue.
Look at Donnie Stacks ffs. He started off strong, but the guy who was formely against DACA is about to pass a revised version of it.
me thinks the guy was threatened to be JFK'ed on more than one occasion if he goes out of line.
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posted August 07, 2020 08:23 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Just wait a sec. If you look at the Netherlands statistics again, go to week 14 in 2020. You can read 5080 deaths. Expected: 3111. So the excess mortality in that wekk is nearly 2000. If you go further to week 15, the cursor says 4972 deaths, with 2906 expected, so we are at an excess mortality of over 2000 in THAT week.
And you quote a text part that speaks of an excess mortality of 1189 and think you have found something? Yep, honesty and reading comprehension.
And after all this I have still no clue what you are trying to prove? That this is all a joke? That no one knows anything?
Depending on who's that "one" - yes. 99% of the people who soak that information don't know anything or close to anything. You and me including (unless you're physician perhaps?). The difference is how you decide to treat the information served to you without being an expert on the matter - because nowadays the fields in which you can be an expert are becoming less and less comparatively. You decide to take it at face value, I don't. Your arguments seem weak or non-existent to me (including that last one about the numbers), I suppose mine look the same to you. The people who are experts on the matter don't have an agreement between themselves what's right either. Why I'm not happy with the official explanation AND the actions related to it - which are not something said and done, they are still being taken and considered - is fairly obvious and will become even more obvious as we move on and especially when that "protected" healthcare starts collapsing for much more trivial reasons like lack of funding - and that's among the other things which we'll have to face in the relatively near future. Clear? Now, let's move to the virus thread if you insist on going on with this, this one is polluted enough already.
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i would say they wouldn't make it, except Trump got in because the masses were sick of the usual bs being pushed.
Both sides have become polarized, with centrists diminishing. Despite that, it IS still possible.
If only a working-class centrist with no ties to either party, no ties to the rich, no ties to any corporate-level entities or government groups/agencies, who backed the Constitution and it's decent, law-abiding taxpayers 1000%, who was a true patriot who valued honor, integrity, and what our founding fathers stood for(and against, to the death) above any and ALL kinds of personal gain...
But that's just wishful thinking.
I'm asking more about if you or any other US citizen along the lines of what the guy in question offers as opposed to if the guy has any real chances. Of course nobody outside of the mainstream parties has a chance, unless he or she is backed up by an awful lot of money (i.e. power) that for some reason does not gravitate around the established political players - but that's not how things work. So, in other words - someone not affiliated to either the Republicans or the Democrats appears, promises to do this and that, provides a plan how to do it, announces who will help him (nobody can do things alone), etc. and you genuinely like all of it, more than what the major parties' candidates offer - would you vote for him/her NOT taking into account if the chances for him/her to win the race are real?
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posted August 07, 2020 09:59 AM |
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posted August 07, 2020 10:05 AM |
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does the study mention anything about ceasing doing stupid crap like purposely withhelding federal aid just to cucks like Cuomo could bash Donnie Stacks?
Because this is what happened in New York. also the death toll there got so high, the New York city began taking a page from Goodfellas and started storing stiffs in freezer trucks.
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posted August 07, 2020 10:09 AM |
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Kipshasz said:
So, let's say your plan comes to pass. you and what army are going to impose the changes you proposed? certainly not other centrists who pretty much flip flop on every bloody issue.
Me thinks the guy was threatened to be JFK'ed on more than one occasion if he goes out of line.
I can't talk about Minecraft. I don't play the game.
That said, there are old-school patriots who still exist. I wouldn't appeal to the mass cucked public; due to my methods of dealing with the corrupt; and before i even got into office. Attempts at bribery are high treason, in my book. Threats would be treated with extreme prejudice.
And with THAT said, i'm aware there are currently no optimal candidates; and there isn't likely to ever be, anymore. But i know which kinds of people NOT to choose. And that's all i need to know.
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posted August 07, 2020 10:16 AM |
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what have we, we have Chomo Joey, that lefty pandering lolbert dumbass, and Donnie Stacks. Latter is the best out of the options, like it or not.
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posted August 07, 2020 12:02 PM |
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Never heard of any of them, so i don't know what you're referring to.
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posted August 07, 2020 12:43 PM |
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Biden, Trump and the lolbert woman.
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posted August 07, 2020 01:00 PM |
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Kipshasz said:
what have we, we have Chomo Joey, that lefty pandering lolbert dumbass, and Donnie Stacks. Latter is the best out of the options, like it or not.
For you, maybe. Which tells me more about you than I really want to know, thank you very much.
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posted August 07, 2020 01:10 PM |
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Pfft. Better get some salve for that "sick leftist burn", kip. 
I'm voting Donnie Stacks, lol. Gonna use that.
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