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posted June 22, 2016 12:49 AM |
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markkur said:
Donald Trump Speech After Orlando Attack 6/13/16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygIDdXEpPnk
The video shows that Donald Trump can sound like a dignified presidential candidate when he wants to. Unfortunately most of the time he doesn't want to.
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posted June 22, 2016 01:51 AM |
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Corribus said:
markkur said:
Donald Trump Speech After Orlando Attack 6/13/16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygIDdXEpPnk
The video shows that Donald Trump can sound like a dignified presidential candidate when he wants to. Unfortunately most of the time he doesn't want to.
Well, I'll have to yield to your experience with the guy. Ftr, if anyone bothers to check my first comment that included Trump you will understand that I HAD to listen to all the stuff being said about "all the candidates" no matter how distasteful to my views, to get to this point. Well ,except Clinton - don't need any lectures nor lessons there.
The only thing I will say about Trump, is he is the only one not afraid to talk about The West's #1 problem today. I don't know what I will do but I'm beginning to get an idea. All the other issues will not matter a penny if our present free society falls. Destroy your everyone's-umbrella? Get ready to enjoy the next "it's this or nothing else" storm.
What I am seeing now is the usual Political-BS of character-assassination tactics. (I.e. taking foundational-points out of quoted texts)When "dyed in the wool" Party-zombies are having their ass handed to them and cannot get on track with sense, facts and reason, this is when the public is bombarded with that kind of worthless babble. Mud-slinging by anyone is NOT "reasonable, rational debate", it's nearly all emotional acid that does not get to the Truth and certainly does NOT clear-up discussions in any walk of life.
Mutual hate does not = Love, someone has to take the high-road and we have to figure out who is willing to go that route and not by smiles or clever media but by reasonable argument based on facts and reality.
Wishful thinking and wonderful wants are nice and needed but HEY! not when it kills the fire you left untended at home by setting fires for everyone else in the World or worse some arrive here that want to stomp-out ours. We have to keep this nation intact now, if we are to share a damned thing in the future...with anyone else.
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posted June 22, 2016 08:22 AM |
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markkur said:
Wishful thinking and wonderful wants are nice and needed but HEY! not when it kills the fire you left untended at home by setting fires for everyone else in the World or worse some arrive here that want to stomp-out ours. We have to keep this nation intact now, if we are to share a damned thing in the future...with anyone else.
No need to worry all that much Markkur, seeing how the economy always takes a dip at a new President 8y election. Once the money is gone, the sympathy is gone.
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posted June 22, 2016 05:46 PM |
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What I love are civilian interviews where they refer to Trump or Clinton as "evil." How juvenile.
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posted June 22, 2016 11:10 PM |
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@Ebonheart
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Once the money is gone, the sympathy is gone
Appreciate the sentiment about not worrying but 17-18 trillion dollars of debt (whatever the Truth is) is not a few, small potatoes. Phoney money is never the solution to anything in the long run.
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What I love are civilian interviews where they refer to Trump or Clinton as "evil." How juvenile.
Agreed. They have NOT really seen it as it is when it is real-time at their feet. They would need to spend some bucks, take a trip to one of a few places around the world and have their eyes kept open with toothpicks for a wee bit to understand the word properly. Photographs & Films are filters, not eyes and make horror more entertainment from a distance than present reality that gets your blood really pumping.
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posted June 22, 2016 11:14 PM |
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markkur said:
Appreciate the sentiment about not worrying but 17-18 trillion dollars of debt (whatever the Truth is) is not a few, small potatoes. Phoney money is never the solution to anything in the long run.
That's not what I meant friend. What I mean is that once the treasure chest is empty, change will be demanded/required/forced. It is indeed no small potatoes and it is no fun thing either, but it seems things must always collapse or lose faith in order to produce a change.
Alas, it's not only the US that sits with debt issues. The entire world has debts and at some point those must be dealt with, one way or another.
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posted June 22, 2016 11:58 PM |
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ebonheart said:
That's not what I meant friend. What I mean is that once the treasure chest is empty, change will be demanded/required/forced. It is indeed no small potatoes and it is no fun thing either, but it seems things must always collapse or lose faith in order to produce a change.
Alas, it's not only the US that sits with debt issues. The entire world has debts and at some point those must be dealt with, one way or another.
With you now. It is sad but the Truth is I, myself did nothing about it for decades. Not saying I could have made a difference but not trying was instant loss and I cannot give myself a bye.
Cheers etc.
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posted June 23, 2016 03:18 AM |
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they are talking about potential 8-10 milion marching on the DNC convention on july 25th in philly.
I hope to see one million +
some google results on this
(side note, in case you didn't know its estimated like 16-17 million people protested in the streets of egypt recently)
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posted June 23, 2016 04:03 AM |
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Looks like Sanders is finally calling it quits. I wonder if he will shill for the establishment he purports to hate. It must burn him to have to turn around and support Clinton.
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posted June 23, 2016 09:44 AM |
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I wonder which of the 6 corps controlling major networks is feeding that line to the sheep.
Im willing to bet they havent mentioned cali flipping county's or hillaries rico case in development either. We arent sitting down on this one. **** the establishment. The new level of blatant oppression is not the end of this story.
And if Trump wins? Guarenteed bombs one way or the other.. If not all.
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posted June 23, 2016 04:29 PM |
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Yesterday Hillary's aid who is was in charge of Hillary's secret server was deposed in a civil suit by Judicial Watch. Pagliano plead the 5th Ammendment (refused to answer because it might incriminate himself) more than 125 times in 90 minutes of questioning. That aide was also employed by the State Department and still is. Pagliano is the aide the FBI has granted limited immunity to. Anything he says to the DBI or DOJ won't be used against him. The immunity agreement is sealed so we do not know the exact terms.
Next to be deposed will be Hillary's right hand, Huma Abedin. She is expected to also plead the Fifth.
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posted June 23, 2016 06:03 PM |
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OmegaDestroyer said:
Looks like Sanders is finally calling it quits. I wonder if he will shill for the establishment he purports to hate. It must burn him to have to turn around and support Clinton.
Shame. I don't think I have heard anything bad from him during these elections, at least not as much as Trump or Clinton. Between a woman that is said to be corrupt and the businessguy that wants to barricade Mexico, I don't think there is much to be desired.
Maybe if people are lucky enough, after the vote, this happens.
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posted June 24, 2016 03:17 AM |
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EnergyZ said:
Shame.
These words equating to "we give up" never came from anyone on Sanders campaign.
We do have this guy, Hillarys IT, pleading the 5th over 125 times
Lets hope the March in DNC reaches over 1 million july 25th in philly too. Talk of 8-10 mil but I'll be happy to see 1 million. Standing up against the establishment, oppression and blatant obvious voting fraud. Rigging a war criminal and enemy of the people through the election process.
Anyone who pays alight attention to whats happening are fools to believe the DNC and hillarys campaign is legit.
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posted June 24, 2016 03:53 AM |
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EnergyZ said:
Maybe if people are lucky enough, after the vote, this happens.
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posted June 24, 2016 09:37 AM |
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Salamandre said:
its interesting, I hear clearly any word Trump pronounces and I don't need translation to understand its phrases, but when Obama speaks, is like another language, I get 1 word on 5. Is there a dialect problem, or what? Does anyone else feel same?
That is because he talks like a third grader. Flattening the English language whenever he speaks without a script, Trump relies heavily on words such as “very” and “great,” and the pronouns “we” and “I,” which is his favorite word. He is like a salesman, repeats often.
Obama is also a gifted speaker, but uses bigger words. His opponents have painted him as a Harvard-educated elitist partly because of this.
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posted June 24, 2016 10:02 AM |
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I doubt is that. I often listen to Sam Harris -and others, and has the same precise diction, while being a bit smarter than a third grader. Is more about Obama which has a voice pitch range which makes me feel like he eats the end of each word.
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posted June 24, 2016 02:04 PM |
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Minion said:
Obama is also a gifted speaker, but uses bigger words. His opponents have painted him as a Harvard-educated elitist partly because of this.
He also is an expert at equivocating - using lots of words to basically say very little.
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posted June 24, 2016 03:01 PM |
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Corribus said:
He also is an expert at equivocating - using lots of words to basically say very little.
Multitalented! I bet he is a master cook and lover too.
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posted June 24, 2016 07:47 PM |
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Corribus said:
Minion said:
Obama is also a gifted speaker, but uses bigger words. His opponents have painted him as a Harvard-educated elitist partly because of this.
He also is an expert at equivocating - using lots of words to basically say very little.
Sounds like one of the ploys that all our politicians use. i.e. Don't answer the question, answer what you would have liked to be asked.
I did hear one thing that "could" be relative from Trump. "He is not going to give Hilary anything to use" i.e. the way Sanders did for her. And Hilary did take Sanders sound-bites and make them her own to some degree. But. that's the typical Politics of today, when the candidate has no ethics and will say anything to get to the power-buzz.
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posted June 24, 2016 09:09 PM |
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markkur said:
that's the typical Politics of today, when the candidate has no ethics and will say anything to get to the power-buzz.
i seem to remember there were almost always smear campaigns towards competing politicians. i remember reading about it somewhere, too. damned if i remember where, tho.
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