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Zeki
Zeki


Supreme Hero
sup
posted August 06, 2015 12:51 AM

might be that their lower body/snake tail was also purple-blueish in one of the forms actually. you'll have to wait for official release i fear.. but for me they were the best creatures from dungeon and actually had some "personality" as i called it earlier so i hope you'll lie them too^^
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The_green_drag
The_green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 12:53 AM

Medusa has a staff instead of a bow?

So was the black dragon we saw during the beta vote the real deal?

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted August 06, 2015 12:55 AM

So butterfly Blackie and purple TS?
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Zeki
Zeki


Supreme Hero
sup
posted August 06, 2015 12:57 AM

The_green_drag said:
Medusa has a staff instead of a bow?

So was the black dragon we saw during the beta vote the real deal?

well, the update's called medusa sorceress so this was to be expected.
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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 12:59 AM

Oh cool. Thank you

The_green_drag said:
Medusa has a staff instead of a bow?


Were you seriously expecting a bow in an unit called Medusa SORCERESS?

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The_green_drag
The_green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 01:12 AM

Lol glad two interesting and unique line ups got dumped for a mobile shooting medusa with a staff. Poor dungeon

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Zeki
Zeki


Supreme Hero
sup
posted August 06, 2015 01:20 AM

leave my medusas alone they're great
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Kimarous
Kimarous


Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 01:21 AM

Zeki said:
The two elven units look very much alike, at first i thought one was the upgrade of the other untill i remembered the actual lineup^^. I hope somebody switches the shooting elf with a beholder per mod if possible.

That's disappointing. I take it they aren't even different genders?

Can you at least confirm the state of elven gaudiness - specifically, the presence (or lack thereof) of bright purple feathers that are in no way conducive to stealth?

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The_green_drag
The_green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 01:34 AM

Did you happen to notice which elite and core were the strongest ones?

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Zeki
Zeki


Supreme Hero
sup
posted August 06, 2015 01:46 AM

@Kimarous Can neither confirm nor deny wether or not they have different genders, you couldn't see such details though now that you mention it, one of them look kinda female on the portrait. The elves do look quite sneaky. Each one for itself looked very good actually, it's just that they are very similar in design and execution.

@The_Green_Drag I couldn't really make it out since there was always one or two creatures missing in the hero's armies and i didn't play the fights directly one after the other. But i feel like the meele elf seemed quite strong.
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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 02:38 AM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 02:46, 06 Aug 2015.

Well one is the assassin and the other is the stalker, which was the assassin alt upgrade in H5 but got retconned into the crossbow-wielding, chakram girls digievolution in H7. So yeah, their similarity makes sense.

Zeki said:
leave my medusas alone they're great


he's just mad because his phallic fantasy monster didnt make it, let him be.

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Resto
Resto

Tavern Dweller
posted August 06, 2015 02:56 AM
Edited by Resto at 02:59, 06 Aug 2015.

Can you please give a basic description of how this "soulless" looks like?
Like "titan is a giant who shoot magic bolts" or "gargoyle is a winged stone woman that attack with her claws". I know that sound stupid but I just don't understand what exatly I should expect other than "humanoid construct with a mask".
Is it something like "gaunt metal 'elf' who punches enemy/attack them with claws"? "Barely humanoid creepy shadow-y monster"?

This guy just bothers me.  

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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted August 06, 2015 03:06 AM
Edited by Stevie at 03:08, 06 Aug 2015.

Here we go again with the insulting remarks out of the blue. Is decent conversation really that beyond you? All we want here is to discuss about the latest events and here you come right after your silence got lifted to disturb the peace for no reason. Can you please stop with your current behaviour for the sake of civility?
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raenus
raenus


Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
posted August 06, 2015 03:36 AM
Edited by raenus at 03:45, 06 Aug 2015.

Elvin said:
Raenus said:
I may be wrong but I am afraid that they are putting way too much stock in multiplayer and balance and sacrificing gameplay to do so. Just my two cents.

I can see why you might think so but all things considered I do not agree. Chat? Eternally bugged. Connectivity issues? Plenty. Dynasty weapons? Bad for a competitive environment. Sim turns? Never was a priority. Balance? Poor. General Stability? Who is him??

If H6 was aimed at multiplayer it would(or should?) have prioritized the above instead of a uniform skill system and boring hero specials.


I am sorry if this has become off-topic, and I promise I am done after this, but I just want to clear this up real quick.
I was referring to them trying to make MMH7 too multiplayer focused, not MMH6. However didn't they remove the resources in 6 for the sake of multiplayer? I may have my facts wrong, but I thought that was the reason.

P.S. Thank you for the Dungeon rundown Zeki. It is good to hear a bit about what we can be expecting.
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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


Bad-mannered
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posted August 06, 2015 03:50 AM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 04:00, 06 Aug 2015.

Stevie said:
Here we go again with the insulting remarks out of the blue. Is decent conversation really that beyond you? All we want here is to discuss about the latest events and here you come right after your silence got lifted to disturb the peace for no reason. Can you please stop with your current behaviour for the sake of civility?


First you arent a mod, stop taking attributions that arent yours, alternatively stop the off-topic, if you have anything personal the messenger is open . Second it's a monster made of long apendages with one eye in the tips. It's totally phallic. Do you even Shin Megami Tensei? because you should. It's no worse than "rapist face" Bladedancer

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Anyway, by tomorrow we should have official gaming sites articles, at least in theory. Today was press day.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted August 06, 2015 04:02 AM

GenyaArikado said:
Second it's a monster made of long apendages with one eye in the tips. It's totally phallic. Do you even Shin Megami Tensei? because you should.

First: You have a problem overfocusing on such things.
Second: In the vote, core creatures were not the main topic. Elites were. and the main clash was Nightmare/faceless vs Medusa vs Manticore

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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted August 06, 2015 05:46 AM

huh, i recall someone saying he wished for the lurker to be modded over the stalker. I cant find it anymore but when i saw his his last comment i assumed it was him.

Now are you gonna keep talking about me or are you gonna go back to topic?

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WhiteFang
WhiteFang


Hired Hero
posted August 06, 2015 06:47 AM
Edited by WhiteFang at 07:01, 06 Aug 2015.

Zeki said:


Black dragons are more of an aoe damage dealer now which i personally like but they are not tanky enough. Black dragons need to be very tough for me but they die more ore less like flies actually. A stack of ~80 Ork meele guys (forgot their name) could kill three blackies.


Thank you for the detailed report. I am wondering if you were able to check Black Dragon's stats. Did they feel weak because they had relatively low defence or HP? Would you say hydras are much more like tank than black dragons? Also, do black dragons look pretty much identical to the one in Heroes 6 expansion set?

Thank you

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Petiknight
Petiknight


Adventuring Hero
posted August 06, 2015 08:06 AM

Zeki huge thx for the report My question is, how did you like the game visuals, and did they improve the general gamespeed or AI? Or you did play only duels? Thank you
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Avonu
Avonu


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted August 06, 2015 10:42 AM

Zeki said:
Minotaurs were allright i think. They are less bulky than in h5, dunno how they looked in h6 lol.



Zeki said:
The game was still kinda buggy which worries me as release comes nearer and nearer.

*sigh*
Not only you.
Both H5 and H6 and even MMX were released as bugfest and only later became playable. It seems we are doomed to see this scenario again.

"Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."


Thanks for quick summary.
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