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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 09, 2015 01:01 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 01:04, 09 Aug 2015.
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Well I believe that the Sci-Fi comparisons most people label Might and Magic with is that all of it is presented in ways almost identical to things such as Star Trek. Things like skin tight suits, sliding medal doors, nanotech all fit it into the Sci-Fi genre as many people see it. In a way it is more how technology is presented than how advanced it really is.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 09, 2015 01:05 AM |
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As long as the tech is used as more than explanations I would say that yes, it's Sci-fi. Of course, that would demand It's more than simply stuff that does things. It needs to be used to explore some subject related to said technology. Otherwise it's just Fantasy that happens to have high-tech stuff in it. For example, even if Might and magic is Sci-fi, Heroes is decidedly not even with high tech technology and space-invaders.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 09, 2015 01:09 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 12:21, 09 Aug 2015.
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kiryu133 said:
even with high tech technology and space-invaders.
That depends if the space aliens arrive in the Enterprise most people will most likely see it as Sci-Fi if they arrive in say a ship made out of gears with obvious magical themes people will less likely see it that way. It is presentation not technology in of itself.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 04:15 AM |
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Kimarous said:
Stevie said:
Sci-fi is implicitly high tech. High tech is not always sci-fi.
M&M was sci-fi.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Likewise, any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
Honestly, I think it's splitting hairs to argue about definitions of fantasy and sci-fi, especially since the two easily intersect. Star Wars is primarily tech-based, but also has mystical elements like the Force. The Elder Scrolls universe is primarily fantasy, but also has lost Dwemer technology. Some are like the Sacred universe, where elements like T-Energy are unclear on whether they're straight-up science or magitech.
But I'm just blathering on about semantics at this point.
Sacred is scifi like M&M. The Seraphim are dragon/elf hybrid clones created by aliens to combat the "demon" aliens and their "divine powers" are granted by satellites.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 04:54 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Sacred is scifi like M&M. The Seraphim are dragon/elf hybrid clones created by aliens to combat the "demon" aliens and their "divine powers" are granted by satellites.
I fully acknowledge that my knowledge of the Sacred universe is limited to the first zone of Sacred 2 and repeatedly listening to the Blind Guardian song.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 07:14 AM |
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Thats from the first one.
http://pctalk.info/Games/Sacred2/Wolfes.Lair/SacredUnderworld/Pages/Quest-AishJadarSeraphimRescueII.html
Sorry for the ot.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 07:20 AM |
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You don't need to apologize. I appreciate the clarification. My original post wasn't even intended to be a serious debate of any kind - I acknowledged my blathering because I literally was just blathering out whatever came to mind.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 09, 2015 12:42 PM |
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Penalty applied to rakshasa for very obvious reasons. There are ways to disagree without provoking. Also your schtick is getting old, we got it the first time around..
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 09, 2015 12:58 PM |
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Gryphs said:
That depends if the space aliens arrive in the Enterprise most people will most likely see it as Sci-Fi if they arrive in say a ship made out of gears with obvious magical themes people will less likely see it that way. It is presentation not technology in of itself.
I disagree. If there is some science to the ship It's sci-fi but if the ship does look like the enterprise but no explanation for how it travels etc. It's still fantasy. given nothing else technological gets the explanations for how they work. If someone in a fantasy work has supposedly high-tech armour it's going to be fantasy until that armour gets some explanation for how it works and the implication of its existence is explored in some manner beyond "she gets stronger wielding it".
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 09, 2015 04:09 PM |
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Basically
The Force = magic
Midi-chlorians = science fiction
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 09, 2015 04:32 PM |
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pretty much
Star Wars has gotten many explanations for things after the fact but the original trilogy (as boring as i find it to be) is pure fantasy
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 05:06 PM |
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oh btw, did someone datamine the Necro hero list back in the first beta? I just wanna know if queen Lucretia is coming back.
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dark-whisperer
Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
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posted August 09, 2015 05:40 PM |
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Necro heroes in first beta were:
Charna, Giovanni, Kaspar, Ludmila, Luna, Lyla, Merikh, Moander, Zakera nad Zoltan
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 06:22 PM |
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Well that sucks.
At least Ludmilla is coming
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted August 09, 2015 08:13 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Well that sucks.
Totally agree. Lucretia has a potential to be an Ashan hero that has interesting story to follow. After all, she was seduced by Sandro to become a Necromancer, hence she could be someone to continue his legacy... and maybe, just maybe bring her mentor back somehow... Just make her more prominent and more important... I would also like to see more Sveltana in the future as well...
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 08:21 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
Necro heroes in first beta were:
Charna, Giovanni, Kaspar, Ludmila, Luna, Lyla, Merikh, Moander, Zakera nad Zoltan
So... Enroth import, overdue update, blog narrator, fan favourite, boring, hot, skelieface, skelieface, most annoying character from Necropolis Campaign 2, and Damodar from the D&D movie.
Not terrible, overall.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 09, 2015 08:27 PM |
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I am not certain if it is wise to call the oldest woman in Ashan hot. Especially if she is (un)dead. Might turn nasty.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 08:32 PM |
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EnergyZ said:
I am not certain if it is wise to call the oldest woman in Ashan hot. Especially if she is (un)dead. Might turn nasty.
There are varying degrees of hot. Some you pursue, others you admire but consider unreachable. I feel she falls under the latter category.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 09, 2015 09:02 PM |
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Sleeping_Sun said:
GenyaArikado said:
Well that sucks.
Totally agree. Lucretia has a potential to be an Ashan hero that has interesting story to follow. After all, she was seduced by Sandro to become a Necromancer, hence she could be someone to continue his legacy... and maybe, just maybe bring her mentor back somehow... Just make her more prominent and more important... I would also like to see more Sveltana in the future as well...
Yeah Lucretia doesnt come off like that person to me. And she was fine and dandy in H5, unlike Markal who was like REVENGE!!!
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 09, 2015 09:06 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 21:31, 09 Aug 2015.
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GenyaArikado said:
Well that sucks.
At least Ludmilla is coming
Don't forget that beside normal heroes we have also campaign heroes, so she can come back in game anyway.
Kimarous said:
dark-whisperer said:
Necro heroes in first beta were:
Charna, Giovanni, Kaspar, Ludmila, Luna, Lyla, Merikh, Moander, Zakera nad Zoltan
So... Enroth import, overdue update, blog narrator, fan favourite, boring, hot, skelieface, skelieface, most annoying character from Necropolis Campaign 2, and Damodar from the D&D movie.
Not terrible, overall.
Really? I thought you could find better nicknames for them. Oh, and there is more then just one "Enroth import"... to be honest only Lyla is fresh character, rest was present in previous games.
EnergyZ said:
I am not certain if it is wise to call the oldest woman in Ashan hot. Especially if she is (un)dead. Might turn nasty.
Then it's good that she isn't the oldest woman in Ashan. 
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