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fuChris
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posted October 14, 2014 10:58 AM

Stevie said:
fuChris said:
I wonder how they will justify the either the genie or the disciple being a large unit. The carpet might just do it for the disciple visually but the genie is simply too small to warrant 4 squares.


The Djinn is a small creature iirc from the IGN video.


Yes but HOW do they justify it? After H6 genies started taking growth hormones to get all buffed up for H5 or what? Not that I personnaly imagine them to be half-giant in size but they do need to get bigger to actually see them. The gargoyles as well.
That ING video is so bad I honestly didn't recognize the genies at first, they simply blanded into the background.
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Dave_Jame
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posted October 14, 2014 11:16 AM

War-overlord said:
Dave_Jame said:
Well until now, nobody told us that the Apprentice is Elite..

Our datamining more or less confirms this.


How does it confirm anything? We only got the info what units there are, not which category they fit in. The idea of Apprentice being Elite resulted from the general opinion it should be. Which is an opinion I did not share ;-).

Isn't it somehow confusing that the mage are named apprentice in the first place? Doesn't the word mean somebody in learning = not really that good or strong.

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posted October 14, 2014 11:37 AM

Dave_Jame said:
Isn't it somehow confusing that the mage are named apprentice in the first place? Doesn't the word mean somebody in learning = not really that good or strong.
Maybe they have to prove themselves something fierce before they can be accepted into apprenticeship?

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War-overlord
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posted October 14, 2014 11:39 AM

Dave_Jame said:
How does it confirm anything? We only got the info what units there are, not which category they fit in. The idea of Apprentice being Elite resulted from the general opinion it should be. Which is an opinion I did not share ;-).

Isn't it somehow confusing that the mage are named apprentice in the first place? Doesn't the word mean somebody in learning = not really that good or strong.

Does it realy matter though? I mean, in Haven we have a Large Creature in all 3 tiers. I.E. The Dire Wolf, The Cavalier, The Landsknecht and The Seraph.
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Dave_Jame
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posted October 14, 2014 11:59 AM

War-overlord said:
Does it realy matter though? I mean, in Haven we have a Large Creature in all 3 tiers. I.E. The Dire Wolf, The Cavalier, The Landsknecht and The Seraph.


Depends on how you look at it. If you take into consideration the number of large units then no. there will still be 4 of them in the lineup.

But if you use this to think about the factions unit distribution, you end up with some interesting variables that could mix up the potential gameplay a lot.

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posted October 14, 2014 12:02 PM
Edited by Avonu at 12:05, 14 Oct 2014.

Dave_Jame said:
Well until now, nobody told us that the Apprentice is Elite.

No, no one confirem that.
But look at previous HoMM games: HoMM2 - lvl 5 unit, HoMM3 lvl 4, HoMM4 lvl 2, H5 lvl 4. Mage always was middle tier units and I don't think it would be changed in HoMM7.
Also Disciple/Apprentice/Carpet Seller is name for basic creature and from its upgrade avatar we can assume that it would be so kind of mage.

Oh, and I wanted to point most only, that H7 Djinn is the same size as Golem - 1x1.
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posted October 14, 2014 12:09 PM

Avonu said:
No, no one confirem that.


Actually it's confirmed. Insider info.
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Dave_Jame
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posted October 14, 2014 12:14 PM

Arugaf said:
Avonu said:
No, no one confirem that.


Actually it's confirmed. Insider info.

Source please?

@Avonu and Centaurs were a Tier 1-2  until H6.. things can change

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posted October 14, 2014 12:16 PM

Dave_Jame said:
Source please?


Info from Russian forum.
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posted October 14, 2014 01:12 PM

Could you just link the source?

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JeremiahEmo
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posted October 14, 2014 01:29 PM

it would be good if the genies are the core creatures this time. Unlike its previous installments, the genies in H7 doesn't look respectable and intimidating at all.

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DoubleDeck
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posted October 14, 2014 01:29 PM

Depends what spells they can cast

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posted October 14, 2014 01:39 PM

JeremiahEmo said:
it would be good if the genies are the core creatures this time. Unlike its previous installments, the genies in H7 doesn't look respectable and intimidating at all.

Why should they? In my opinion, new genies look fine. Thankfully, they have heads, in comparison to HoMM 5 djinns. Also, they are no more that muscular - nice abs were supposed to be domain (I am talking only about Academy) of Titans and Rakshasas, and them only.

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ChrisD1
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posted October 14, 2014 02:03 PM

come on guys!! was there any doubt, the golem or the golem with wings gargoyle wouldn't be cores? i mean really? did anyone actually thought that these two would be elites?
I'd setle for an elite golem though, and the mage being a core.
Djinns are great this time. they were supposed to be H6 djinns if academt had made it but i'd want them bigger. they don't need brawn to take 4 squares. they are djinns that can be as large as they like. why make them human sized?
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posted October 14, 2014 02:06 PM

I was actually hoping for Mages to be core and golems elite

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posted October 14, 2014 02:10 PM

ChrisD1 said:
come on guys!! was there any doubt, the golem or the golem with wings gargoyle wouldn't be cores?

I know that gargoyles do not resemble the ones that are on gothic cathedrals, but they still look more like sculptures that some robots.

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posted October 14, 2014 02:11 PM

Dave_Jame said:
I was actually hoping for Mages to be core and golems elite


Same but gargoyles elite.
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Galaad
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posted October 14, 2014 02:32 PM

Well I'd be a bit disappointed if Apprentices were to go in Core. I always liked Magi to be powerful

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posted October 14, 2014 02:38 PM

fuChris said:
That ING video is so bad I honestly didn't recognize the genies at first, they simply blanded into the background.

I think what's wrong is creature's models sizes, not the video itself lol.

And they won't change that
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posted October 14, 2014 02:39 PM

Galaad said:
Well I'd be a bit disappointed if Apprentices were to go in Core. I always liked Magi to be powerful



They should bring back H3 Laser-Mages!

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