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A8T
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 06:23 PM |
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Edited by A8T at 18:27, 02 Nov 2014.
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Just looking at the potential creatures is interesting enough. Time for some over analysis!
So they all have Minotaur and Minotaur Guards, which is something that has never changed. Darkblade was the default might hero in shades of darkness and now its a unit. I guess that rules it out as returning as a hero class.
Shadow Unicorn and Nightmare is very interesting given the Nightmare was Inferno associated. I had a theory that perhaps the nightmares where not spawn of the six Demon Overlords but rather had non demonic origins like the Succubi and Heretics, etc.
Chthonian sounds very Lovecraftian.
Strider/Soulless to me seem like a kind of Dark Golem. The image I have of these is like the Star Craft 2 Protoss Stalker.
Some of the usual unit names or upgrades are changed. Cave Hydra and Dark Hydra rather than Hydra and Deep Hydra, etc.
My pick? I am torn between The Blade from the Shadows and
Malassa's Thousand Faces. Blade feels more like a dungeon strategy, at least the Ashan version, and the hit and run seems a good contrast to other factions. However creature wise it looks way to similar to Shades of Darkness, though I do want to see this Shadow Unicorn. The Thousand faces creature wise seems a lot more interesting. We have the return of the Troglodyte and Medusa as well as this Strider/Soulless which sounds really cool. And balance is not a bad thing. Shield almost seems anti-dungeon. It is the only one that gets Manticores but I can live without them.
And scores at the moment are
Blade: 32
Faces: 42
Shield: 26
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 07:13 PM |
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I think that Ubi won't show us lineups of Stronghold and Necropolis until we pick the "type" of Dungeon's army. I have a theory that they will adjust types of Necro and Strong to be a counterparts of fan choices.
For example:
Offensive Sylvan - Let's make Defensive Stronghold.
Defensive Dungeon - Let's make Offensive Dungeon.
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Kurush
Known Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 07:32 PM |
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I guess we'll get 3 parts of "Henchmen of the Wizards", then an Academy animation update, and first Stronghold/Necro spoilers by christmas/new year.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 02, 2014 07:59 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 20:00, 02 Nov 2014.
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Stevie Are you getting excited ? 
Quote:
1wtfqgqgwwqgq November 02, 2014 19:21:13
These voting do not carry any objectivity! All the same, you can cheat the system and create a bunch fake account! How I did it!
Voting for the lineups was a BAD idea.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted November 02, 2014 08:18 PM |
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Galaad said:
Stevie Are you getting excited ?
Quote:
1wtfqgqgwwqgq November 02, 2014 19:21:13
These voting do not carry any objectivity! All the same, you can cheat the system and create a bunch fake account! How I did it!
Voting for the lineups was a BAD idea.
come on man! all line ups are good this time!
whoever wins with cheating or not, line-up will be allright)
what this voting does is generate interest from fans
so hopefully many people will buy the game and we ll get expansion
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 08:26 PM |
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Sometimes I lose all faith in the humanity, especially when they cheat...
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted November 02, 2014 08:57 PM |
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Galaad said:
Stevie Are you getting excited ?
Quote:
1wtfqgqgwwqgq November 02, 2014 19:21:13
These voting do not carry any objectivity! All the same, you can cheat the system and create a bunch fake account! How I did it!
Voting for the lineups was a BAD idea.
Again?
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Vote El Presidente! Or Else!
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted November 02, 2014 09:21 PM |
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Cheating again? please no 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 02, 2014 09:25 PM |
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An exercise in futility. What is the point now that we know ubi can see and cancel the fake votes?
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 09:43 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 21:44, 02 Nov 2014.
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Elvin said:
An exercise in futility. What is the point now that we know ubi can see and cancel the fake votes?
One, it's your win if you get away with it.
Two, there is undoubtedly a psychological impact.
Oh and yea, the drama is great! 
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 10:04 PM |
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted November 02, 2014 10:56 PM |
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It's just Ashan you guys, no point in cheating.
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 10:59 PM |
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oh yeah. I'm loving this right now.
During Sylvan vote, Sylvan's Fury was my pick. But it was way behind everyone else. Then, Sylvan's Fury defied all odds and won with an underdog "come from behind" story. Oh yeah.
Now, Shield of Darkness, my pick, is starting out in a very bad position. Will Shield come out victorious like Sylvan's Fury did?
Oh man, if that happens, JEmo getting his way all the time <3!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 02, 2014 11:27 PM |
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JeremiahEmo said:
Oh man, if that happens, JEmo getting his way all the time <3!
It's the end I tell ya! THE END!
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted November 03, 2014 12:20 AM |
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Avirosb said:
It's just Ashan you guys, no point in cheating.
lol too true
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted November 03, 2014 07:21 AM |
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Buki said:
So, I wanted to ask what is your opinion about shooters and their range ? I played H5 a lot and after i H6 came out, I was shocked how many units with full range there was. IMO it was a bad decision to give most of the units full range. In H5, having a unit with no range penality was a huge advantage, while in H6, it was normal, and units with half range were in a big disadvantage. So what do you think ? Should H7 make shooters having range penality or not ?
Remember, troops in H5 were easy to kill, in H6 the defense was generally stronger and you couldn't, for instance, wipe out an entire troop stack in one attack, so it's all relative.
If H7 troops have durability like H6, no range penalty.
If H7 troops drop like flies, have range penalties.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted November 03, 2014 10:02 AM |
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Stormcaller said:
Elven archers should have no range penalty becausr they are elves. Perfect marksmen and that shiz.
Marksmen should have range penalty because crossbow has a limited range, but when at closer range, they should deal double or triple of normal damage.
Actually, the effective range of a crossbow is fairly compatible with the effective range of a longbow. Only where a longbow is easy to learn and takes a lifetime to master, the crossbow is easily mastered - hence it's also called the poor-man's-bow.
Both had an effective range that went up to 300-400 yards, with a drop-off in kill chance beyond 200 yards or so.
Crossbow info
Longbow info
I admit that I used to think a crossbow was mainly for short range and longbow for longer range, but it turns out to be quite similar in effect.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted November 03, 2014 11:37 AM |
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If any unit has "no range penalty"-ability then it better have it's stats tweaked. It should have either the survivability of Furies or it's damage should be halved. I couldn't hire Arcane Archers in H5 without feeling like I cheated.
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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AcidDragon
Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
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posted November 03, 2014 03:58 PM |
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I really have to post it here.
The latest video from CGP Grey, called "Quick and Easy Voting for Normal People"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orybDrUj4vA
In under 2 minutes it gives a sollution to our voting problems.
Also - check out his other voting videos. One of them, called "The Problems with First Past the Post Voting Explained" covers the problem we had with Sylvan line-up, that being the "minority rule", where we had an option win, despite the fact that the majority (55% of players) didn't want it.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 03, 2014 04:34 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 16:52, 03 Nov 2014.
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
