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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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On the Other Side!
posted January 15, 2015 02:24 PM

I'd say H2 re-used a lot of H1 stuff, not H3
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted January 15, 2015 02:28 PM

Yeah that's kind of a blank statement.
Unlike its predecessors, H3 didn't have any hand-drawn art in-game.
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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted January 15, 2015 02:34 PM

I think H3 looks a lot like H2, but with updated graphics. For instance most of the adventure map buildings are the same, but with more details, perspective, shadowing etc.





It's not possible for H7 to use H6 models directly, since it's a new graphics engine. But they might use the same design concept.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted January 15, 2015 02:38 PM

Seeing that made me remember how much I miss the old GUIs

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Stevie
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posted January 15, 2015 02:41 PM
Edited by Stevie at 15:00, 15 Jan 2015.

Reusing models is not a problem per se. Reusing bad models is. I see nothing wrong with reusing good models, in fact I think they provide consistency. But then again I don't believe they have reused anything to begin with. The real issue is that we got bad hero models with some ridiculous features, like cloth pieces covering their faces, wings, circles, brown skin and white eyes. But if they get fixed (and I hope they will, because of community pressure), you'll see that no one would ever care if their models are reused or not.
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
posted January 15, 2015 03:30 PM

Stevie said:
Reusing models is not a problem per se. Reusing bad models is. I see nothing wrong with reusing good models, in fact I think they provide consistency. But then again I don't believe they have reused anything to begin with. The real issue is that we got bad hero models with some ridiculous features, like cloth pieces covering their faces, wings, circles, brown skin and white eyes. But if they get fixed (and I hope they will, because of community pressure), you'll see that no one would ever care if their models are reused or not.


I agree if something is done very well who cares if it was reused or not.

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verriker
verriker


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We don't need another 'eroes
posted January 15, 2015 03:52 PM

Brukernavn said:
It's not possible for H7 to use H6 models directly, since it's a new graphics engine. But they might use the same design concept.


uh... what? why would a different engine make it impossible to reuse models? do you know what an engine is? lol
it is possible and that's exactly what they're doing, I bet we'll see reused H6 models and animations to beat the band

also, Heroes 3 did not reuse ANY graphic assets from Heroes 2 whatsoever, not a single one

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RMZ1989
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posted January 15, 2015 04:25 PM

verriker said:
Brukernavn said:
It's not possible for H7 to use H6 models directly, since it's a new graphics engine. But they might use the same design concept.


uh... what? why would a different engine make it impossible to reuse models? do you know what an engine is? lol
it is possible and that's exactly what they're doing, I bet we'll see reused H6 models and animations to beat the band

also, Heroes 3 did not reuse ANY graphic assets from Heroes 2 whatsoever, not a single one

Yup, it was like a completely different game(and one of the reasons why I didn't like H3 as much as H2).
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Valen-Teen
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posted January 15, 2015 04:35 PM
Edited by Valen-Teen at 16:36, 15 Jan 2015.

How about Bloodthirst spell icon from H2?

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted January 16, 2015 03:07 PM

Got a good vibe for today, let's see if it's justified.
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Stevie
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posted January 16, 2015 04:21 PM

Community Q&A Part 2

SEE THAT ELVIS?
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Storm-Giant
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On the Other Side!
posted January 16, 2015 04:30 PM
Edited by Storm-Giant at 16:52, 16 Jan 2015.

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1. WILL YOU MODIFY SIZE OF THE HERO IN THE ADVENTURE MAP AND CREATURES IN COMBAT?

This point could evolve until the very end of the development but we might tweak a little some of those elements to make them more coherent with the rest of the universe. Concerning creatures in combat map, they will keep their own existing tile number but the actual “scale” of those creatures might change within those boundaries.

Yes please, the game really needs this.

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7. WILL HEROES 7 FACTIONS BE AS COLOR-CODED AS HEROES 6 ONES?

This was a particularly important feedback we received on the previoustitle and decided to design H7 creatures in order not to reproduce this. We hope we managed to reduce this feeling and offer diversity with Haven faction for instance.

I'll hold my final judgement until we see the other factions creatures (especially with Necropolis!), but this sounds good

Looking forward to the Design questions
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 16, 2015 04:30 PM

The questions, and as a result the answers, were decidedly meh.
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted January 16, 2015 04:30 PM

There's a surprise But the questions were easy so maybe not all that surprising.
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Kronos1000
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Fryslân Boppe
posted January 16, 2015 05:08 PM
Edited by Kronos1000 at 17:08, 16 Jan 2015.

Some nice hints regarding the editor. It sounds like they really put some effort into it.

The possibility to tone down the frequency of the fly-cam is also nice; they seem nice for sieges and battles between large armies, but it would be over the top to have them before every fight.
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Stevie
Stevie


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posted January 16, 2015 05:16 PM
Edited by Stevie at 17:33, 16 Jan 2015.

Night maps and weather effects. Map Editor and possibly modding tools too. No more neon colors and return of Legacy Heroes (Sandro please!).

I see only good things there.
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Avonu
Avonu


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Embracing light and darkness
posted January 16, 2015 05:29 PM
Edited by Avonu at 17:32, 16 Jan 2015.

War-overlord said:
The questions, and as a result the answers, were decidedly meh.


Mostly but not all, some were informing, like about night maps and weather effects or about units tiles size and scale.

Storm-Giant said:
I'll hold my final judgement until we see the other factions creatures (especially with Necropolis!), but this sounds good

If you look at artworks of Necropolis or Sahaar Orcs in Duel of Champions, you can easly guess, what they would look like in Heroes 7.
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fuChris
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posted January 16, 2015 05:39 PM

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1. Will you modify size of the Hero in the adventure map and creatures in combat?
This point could evolve until the very end of the development but we might tweak a little some of those elements to make them more coherent with the rest of the universe.

Tweak them to be larger or smaller? If the adventure map camera is as zoomed in as in H5/6 then I don't find any reason to make them smaller tbh.
However if the adventure map camera is more zoomed out to encompass all the (arguably necessary) 3D eyecandy bulls*t then larger unit models are a must.
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supertommy
supertommy


Known Hero
posted January 16, 2015 10:12 PM
Edited by supertommy at 22:13, 16 Jan 2015.

Storm-Giant said:
This was a particularly important feedback we received on the previoustitle and decided to design H7 creatures in order not to reproduce this. We hope we managed to reduce this feeling and offer diversity with Haven faction for instance.


Oh God Almighty, I hope this means a lot less green and purple, and not just "a little bit". I'm positive, for now...

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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
posted January 17, 2015 11:14 PM

If they plan to change the formula of cutscenes, this is how they should look. If they would be half as good I will still be satissfied.

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