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Kronos1000
Kronos1000


Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
posted January 26, 2015 04:37 PM

War-overlord said:
Probably. If they had a half-decent base code to work with, we would have gotten more than one expansion for Heroes 6.


The problem is that working with someone else's code can be tedious and time consuming. Had Blackhole not gone bankrupt, making expansions would have been a lot easier. This, I think, is also one of the primary reasons for switching to an existing engine (Unreal 3 in this case), because it allows for much easier content creation. Plus it is probably increases overall stability.
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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted January 26, 2015 04:42 PM

Wasn't there like a poll here at HC what people liked about H6? And if I am not mistaken Necropolis was one of the most liked factions...
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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
posted January 26, 2015 04:44 PM

Moreover, Heroes VI had its game engine from scratch created. Unreal 3 was used countless times and is so tested and improved that it would give the game greater stability. In Heroes VI game designers tried to hard to impress and refresh the series and it could be seen in before mentioned new game engine.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted January 26, 2015 04:44 PM

dark-whisperer said:
Avirosb said:
I guess the only reason this is a new game and not 'Heroes 6 and a Half' is because of the borked code?

What?
List of differences between HVII and HVI is extensive. Saying those are same games because of few creatures is unfair.

I'm saying had the code been up to par, it would have been easier to implement core gameplay changes via DLC.
It would be more economically viable I think, Ubi already seems hellbent on using as little money as possible on this project.

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted January 26, 2015 04:45 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 17:05, 26 Jan 2015.

Nope, 2/3 people didn't like it. In presidential elections that's a crushing score

And don't forget that the people which liked it also voted because of tactical things like fast zombies(ghouls) and ghost's synergy, so design is even more hated


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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted January 26, 2015 05:27 PM

you'd think they'd have some sort of schedule or decided timeframe for updates but nooooo

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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2015 05:32 PM

im like, "cmoooon! bring update about necro".

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supertommy
supertommy


Known Hero
posted January 26, 2015 05:34 PM

They post articles usually around 18:00 CET.

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supertommy
supertommy


Known Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:03 PM

Maybe tomorrow.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted January 26, 2015 06:04 PM

I'm personally not expecting a post today. I think they have a lot of work with analysing the Rageback.. I mean feedback

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:08 PM

Feedback - there's room for improvement;
Rageback - there's a big problem;
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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:13 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
I so not agree with this. Art is a very important role in everything.

If not they could just recycle the homm1 sprites over and over again, as its only for the gameplay anyway....



Which is NOT what I was suggesting.

Let me quote my post:
Zombi_Wizzard said:
I'm not saying that art is completly unimportant. If you think that you missed my point.

And another:
Zombi_Wizzard said:
You can however (and I do) call them on their bullsnow if they reuse the same models from previous game and charge it at full price.

You missed my point. You and Stevie also.

Here is a fact. ART STYLE IS SUBJECTIVE!

YOU think Lich is terrible. I. DO. NOT.
YOU don't like Lamassu. I. DO.
YOU like that "good" models are being reused, I on the other hand don't like them reusing thigs at all, unless I have to pay less.

Here's another point. This time with no caps. Unit stats are not subjective. They are math.

And I'm sorry. But if visuals are equaliy important to you than gameplay, then you don't even care about unit abilities, ressurection, random or non random skills, faction balance etc. As long as game looks pretty, you will play it.

And you would think games like Go are THE WORST, since you only have black and white dots. Strategical dept is something that can be ignored.

Yes I did take your argument out of proportion, but so did you take mine. It's almost impossible to get a consesus on visuals. And if you don't agree read some 2D vs 3D threads. There are no "universaly good" or "universaly bad" visuals. They just are. Some people like them, some do not.

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted January 26, 2015 06:16 PM

Here is another fact: the voting system they have chosen is Democracy
So, you like the lich's design, but more don't
You like the lamassu, but more don't

it's a question of numbers

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted January 26, 2015 06:18 PM

Yes, let's vote if we are even interesting in having a Heroes game or just something (and somebody, heh) to throw snow at
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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:28 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 18:29, 26 Jan 2015.

LizardWarrior said:
Here is another fact: the voting system they have chosen is Democracy
So, you like the lich's design, but more don't
You like the lamassu, but more don't

it's a question of numbers

I agree. And I'm cool with this, since I am more interasted on what's "under the hood" anyway.

And also, by your logic I can assume, you like the removal of Unicorn. YAY deer

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cleglaw
cleglaw


Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:31 PM
Edited by cleglaw at 18:33, 26 Jan 2015.

nearly in all votes in my life, i was in the minority, in real life too. somehow democracy fails to deliver my expectations, its like, majority is always againts my way of thinking.. now maybe its wrong to say it but im gonna say it anyways.. i think democracy is an iron fist of fools. when a vote event includes more people then hundreds, it usually ends so bad, that it makes me facepalm. every snowing time.

so i think we should not make any vote event and avoid to do it any time possible. it may somehow end with justification of spiders and fleshy bald liches.

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:42 PM

Zombi since you don't care about visuals that much, would you be ok if Ubisoft created a Giant Dung as a Stronghold champion for example?
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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted January 26, 2015 06:45 PM

Stevie said:
Zombi since you don't care about visuals that much, would you be ok if Ubisoft created a Giant Dung as a Stronghold champion for example?


didn't they already do that in h6?

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted January 26, 2015 06:50 PM

And they got away with it

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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2015 06:59 PM

Stevie said:
Zombi since you don't care about visuals that much, would you be ok if Ubisoft created a Giant Dung as a Stronghold champion for example?

Again your blowing this waaaay out of proportion. Not caring THAT MUCH and not carring AT ALL are 2 diferent things.

I wonder which units and spells would you use in a pvp HoMM matchup. The one that is most effective or the one that looks best and has more pretty explosion effect?

Right.

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