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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 15, 2015 08:07 PM

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
Blasphemyyyyyyyyyyyy!

I will restart my dicsussion!Holy Academy made orcs to fight and save Ashan,thing which without them now would not have succeded!

Secondly,Silver cities with Irollan and Holy Griffin empire fought the demons in the fifth eclipse in a union and they succeeded!One more good Academy took part!

Third,when Hashima had been invated by the orcs the wizards moved all of their army,to help Hashima.

Fourth,When Lotus Empire was destroyed from the pao orcs,the wizards killed all the orcs there and gave thousands of resources to Sanctuary to revive.

Fifth,Academy instead of injail the criminals and thiefs they gave them the power to pay their sins bulding their cityies and hten they set them free!Wow!

Sixth Academy gave the power to criminals the oportunity to take part in expirememnts and look the results.They are more powerfull than even and not in jail!ACADEMY saved them!

Seventh,they gave thousand of creatures to all factions.For example:minotaurs to dungeon,shark guards to sanctuary kand a lot more...

Eighth:with minotaurs,and some wizard troops Silver cities helped Tuidhana.

There are even more.Academy is the one.We build it,we know her good!

ACADEMY BLESSES ALL

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 15, 2015 10:13 PM

Not sure if trolling
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aetherrevival
aetherrevival


Hired Hero
I am flammable
posted June 15, 2015 10:41 PM
Edited by aetherrevival at 23:00, 15 Jun 2015.

LightAvatarX said:
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!
Blasphemyyyyyyyyyyyy!

I will restart my dicsussion!Holy Academy made orcs to fight and save Ashan,thing which without them now would not have succeded!

Secondly,Silver cities with Irollan and Holy Griffin empire fought the demons in the fifth eclipse in a union and they succeeded!One more good Academy took part!

Third,when Hashima had been invated by the orcs the wizards moved all of their army,to help Hashima.

Fourth,When Lotus Empire was destroyed from the pao orcs,the wizards killed all the orcs there and gave thousands of resources to Sanctuary to revive.

Fifth,Academy instead of injail the criminals and thiefs they gave them the power to pay their sins bulding their cityies and hten they set them free!Wow!

Sixth Academy gave the power to criminals the oportunity to take part in expirememnts and look the results.They are more powerfull than even and not in jail!ACADEMY saved them!

Seventh,they gave thousand of creatures to all factions.For example:minotaurs to dungeon,shark guards to sanctuary kand a lot more...

Eighth:with minotaurs,and some wizard troops Silver cities helped Tuidhana.

There are even more.Academy is the one.We build it,we know her good!

ACADEMY BLESSES ALL


Ah, but let us look at it this way:

First point: Again, the Academy could've easily made artifacts or constructs instead of using human subjects. One could say that they needed the humans to pump demon's blood into, but could they not instead infuse it into the things that I have just mentioned above? Surely, that would make something powerful enough to destroy demons.

Second, Third, Fourth, and Eighth points: While this all might look well and good, let's look into real life history and compare a few things. Nations in the past would help, and even give lavish presents, to other nations for personal gain. Whether to keep the enemy off of their backs, or sneak in for the kill, it was always done to get something. Considering the lack of morales that the wizards have, I could see this applying, as we all know that game armies, as long as they are not black and white, are very similar to the armies of the past.

Fifth and Sixth points: Leave it to the wizards to find a sneaky way to save a buck! Use criminals to do your labor, and don't pay a cent! Telltale miserly behavior! Also, experimenting on criminals seems as bad as torturing them. As for the result after, they don't seem very thankful for being 'saved'!

Seventh point: Most of those creatures either escaped or were taken by other races. Without a doubt, it was not done for charity.


I'm still not seeing Academy as 'good'.
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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


Promising
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posted June 15, 2015 11:16 PM

Elvin said:
Not sure if trolling
More like a blind fanaticism/fanboy-ism.

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted June 15, 2015 11:55 PM

Sleeping_Sun said:
Elvin said:
Not sure if trolling
More like a blind fanaticism/fanboy-ism.

he is not, he really really likes academy. why call him names? I would rave for an enroth-ridden dungeon. i would even make a poster
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted June 16, 2015 09:43 AM

Pics or it didn't happen.
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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


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posted June 16, 2015 10:07 AM

It is totally fine that he likes Academy, I like Academy in H5. The point is that he ignores all the bad things that Academy did and glorifies all the good stuff, even though HC members already pointed out that some negative side of Academy should not be overlooked (such as the torture and mutilation of human beings, physically and psychologically, in order to create unstable orcs...). Since he still insists that his view of the faction is the right one, you can clearly see that I did not call him names, but stated the obvious.

Being a fanboy of something is not a bad thing. I am a fanboy of some things myself, and in my view it is not a derogatory term at all.

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


Supreme Hero
posted June 16, 2015 10:43 AM
Edited by ChrisD1 at 10:50, 16 Jun 2015.

Sleeping_Sun said:
It is totally fine that he likes Academy, I like Academy in H5. The point is that he ignores all the bad things that Academy did and glorifies all the good stuff, even though HC members already pointed out that some negative side of Academy should not be overlooked (such as the torture and mutilation of human beings, physically and psychologically, in order to create unstable orcs...). Since he still insists that his view of the faction is the right one, you can clearly see that I did not call him names, but stated the obvious.

Being a fanboy of something is not a bad thing. I am a fanboy of some things myself, and in my view it is not a derogatory term at all.

People had to suffer in the past so we get to enjoy modern medicine though..
As for the term fanboy it is used often in a bad light that's why i replied the way i did.

@elvin
get rid of that minotaur and medusa and i ll wear
purple for a year non stop!!
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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 16, 2015 06:55 PM
Edited by LightAvatarX at 18:56, 16 Jun 2015.

@Chris,

@aethe
First point:xaxaxaxaxa,my dear wolf!I have tot ell u that u confuse the Academy of the sixth eclipse,with the Academy of the first.
In the first eclipse there were not golems,not powerfull artifacts.Academys cities did not even fly!That was the only way!

Second,fourth,third,eighth point: Of course and they did that to find allyied,did I say the opossite?But they helped them because they liked them and wanted to help them.Of course and htey wanted allyies.Iss that bad?I dont think so...I call it intelligence!

Fifth,six point:They were criminals!They would die in prisons!Academy is not like "holy" empires and stupid "holy" inquisitions who kill people!Academy gave to all that people a great potentional,and they from weak humans transformed to powerfull orcs and different beastmens!
Academy blessed them as always!Now all of them are free and have unlimited power and their factions!They dont think that the wizards saved them?A,xa,xa,xa,xa dont forget that they call Syllana mother earth and Ylath father sky.Not even the dragon gods they cant admit and u wait to admit that their fathers,wizards saved them?

Seventh point:
http://mightandmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Shark_guard
http://mightandmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Minotaur_guard_(H6)
Tuidhana was saved wit minotaurs.
All the beast emns were gifts to the other kingdoms!

#AcademyBlessesAll

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Genyaarikado
Genyaarikado


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Supreme Hero
posted June 16, 2015 11:31 PM

this is annoying.

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


Known Hero
Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 17, 2015 10:13 AM

Defend your faction is annoying?

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted June 17, 2015 10:39 AM

LightAvatarX said:
Defend your faction is annoying?


There's nothing wrong with defending your faction, as long as it's based on facts. You, sir, appear to turn a blind eye to the negative and dark side of the things done by Academy and seem to fail to see that most of what they've done is for personal gain.

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 17, 2015 11:31 AM

Yeah the most are for personal gain!Is that bad?
This is good thing called,inteligence

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted June 17, 2015 12:24 PM

LightAvatarX said:
Yeah the most are for personal gain!Is that bad?

Not a blessing at the very least.
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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 17, 2015 12:49 PM

Blessing-PersonalGain

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aetherrevival
aetherrevival


Hired Hero
I am flammable
posted June 17, 2015 04:53 PM


I understand what is being said here, but remember that the name of this topic, 'Is academy evil?', is inviting our opinions, be it opiniated or analytical. User LightAvatarX does turn a blind eye to the bad side, but I think his opinion should be as welcome as the next!

And yes, I do think fanboy fanaticism is the perfect descriptive word here~ But don't we all have something that makes us tick?



Oh, and before I forget..... User LightAvatarX, bravo to your loyalty! I applaude you for your steadfast support!
But, I still think you're crazy.
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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


Known Hero
Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 17, 2015 05:34 PM

Thanks,I guess...
And I am not crazy,just have complex with Academy,the reason that I am a fan of this franchise...
But ok I am a bit crazy

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aetherrevival
aetherrevival


Hired Hero
I am flammable
posted June 17, 2015 09:38 PM

LightAvatarX said:
Thanks,I guess...
And I am not crazy,just have complex with Academy,the reason that I am a fan of this franchise...
But ok I am a bit crazy


I didn't really put my point across politely, did I? I'm sorry, User LightAvatarX.

Ah well.... I've spoken my peace, I guess it's time to find another topic to haunt.
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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted June 17, 2015 09:47 PM

imo its the most evil faction in the game because they forcefully turn people into beastmen

with Inferno and Necropolis, becoming a Demon or Undead is more of a voluntary religious rite
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Minion
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posted June 17, 2015 10:28 PM

They don't turn people into beastmen.
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