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Heroes Community > Heroes 7 - Falcon's Last Flight > Thread: Is academy evil?
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xerox
xerox


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posted June 17, 2015 10:38 PM

then how is a beastman created?
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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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the reckoning is at hand
posted June 17, 2015 10:40 PM

When a man loves a beast very much...

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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


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posted June 17, 2015 11:50 PM

Xerox, just watch Beauty and the Beast, and you'll find out.

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Dave_Jame
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posted June 18, 2015 04:25 AM

Minion said:
They don't turn people into beastmen.

They do Minion.. they do :-D.
And turning people into ghouls is also not very rewarding and done from free will.

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Kimarous
Kimarous


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posted June 18, 2015 05:06 AM

xerox said:
imo its the most evil faction in the game because they forcefully turn people into beastmen

with Inferno and Necropolis, becoming a Demon or Undead is more of a voluntary religious rite

xerox said:
then how is a beastman created?

1) Beastmen were made. They're not made anymore.
2) We don't know the specifics of how beastmen were made.

3) We do know how many undead are made and...

Soul Hunters themselves cannot control these ghosts; their role is to subdue and chain them using guardian glyphs, psychic cages, sometimes even magical chains.

Transformation into a Ghoul is used as the ultimate punishment in Heresh, and is a means of permanently removing a soul from the cycle of death and transformation.

...yeah, "voluntary" isn't the word I would use.

Pretty sure "permanently removing a soul from the cycle of death and transformation" out-evils whatever you think the creation of beastmen entails.

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Dave_Jame
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posted June 18, 2015 10:02 AM

Kimarous said:

1) Beastmen were made. They're not made anymore.
2) We don't know the specifics of how beastmen were made.

3) We do know how many undead are made and...


1) Beastman ARE still made by house Chimera. It is a hause specialized in magical merging of life forms. They still create new form even after the revolution, and ofcource they breed them.
2) The a way,how beastman were created, has actually been described... I'll try to find it. But it should be similar to the Kelpie part from Heroes VI, and similar to the orc creation, as they were the basis for them.

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LightAvatarX
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posted June 18, 2015 12:24 PM

Hey,you faceless!

House Chimera has been destroyed then of the revolution and the civil war!
House chimera wizards moved to Karthal,free cities and the most to Hashima!
You have very few knowledge for a faceless...
And they saved the criminals giving them power!
End!

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Dave_Jame
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posted June 18, 2015 09:57 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 11:33, 06 Sep 2015.

LightAvatarX said:
Hey,you faceless!

House Chimera has been destroyed then of the revolution and the civil war!
House chimera wizards moved to Karthal,free cities and the most to Hashima!
You have very few knowledge for a faceless...
And they saved the criminals giving them power!
End!

Hey Brainless! no they have not. They are still a working functional part of the academy at the time of Heroes VI, they only lost their grace, It was not until much later after H6 that they moved to Karthal.

Try to look up the PoSS DLC. Falagar is a member of house Chymera who travels to Karthal to negotiate with the Karthal League. And not even 10 years after HVI do they have power over the City (MaM X).

Get your ship together :-D.

Hause chymera has left the Silver cities after the CW but Has never stoped to exist, has never even became weak. They are one of the 3 most powerfull houses in Academy, and their impact is strong even after their main leaders have decide to part with the other Hauses.

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 19, 2015 11:02 AM

Nope,nope,nope my deeeeeeeeeeeeear Faceless!
House Chimera does not create beastmens anymore...
You probably live in a cave underground,and have to see the light for years and for that remember only the first eclipse.
And u seem brainless...but I like brainless )))))))

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Sleeping_Sun
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posted June 19, 2015 11:21 AM

@Light
Then, please enlighten us with what is the House Chimera preoccupied right now? What do they do now?

EDIT:
Will someone please close this thread already. The question has been answered, and the following conversation is leading no where.

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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posted June 19, 2015 11:49 AM

Ok,ok as the wizard of the Light and brother of the first of the circle,Zehir I will solve my dear mates your queries.
House Chimera has been destroyed in the second eclipse.The wizards of this house of wizardy are being called Crimson wizards.
When the house was been destroyed some of hte crimson wizards went to agyn peninsula to built a city,the strongest of all free cities,the legendary Karthal.Other went to other free cities.Some others moved to Hashima in the lotus empire and made a strong friendship with nagas.

None does not create beastmens then of that!

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Sleeping_Sun
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posted June 19, 2015 04:22 PM

Your Lightness of the Academy answered the question that I did not ask: Where did they go? But I did ask: What are they doing if they are not making beastmen?

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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posted June 19, 2015 07:41 PM

Oh right,my lightness confused it!Well the crimson wizards now make cakes...I dont know what actuslly they do but my lightness know that they are not making beastmens...

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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posted June 19, 2015 07:46 PM

I think you should cut down the light.. You're getting a sun-stroke :-D

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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posted June 19, 2015 08:16 PM

Oh faceless,so bad you have not face.
Anyway I am lighter than the most holy light!
#AcademyBlessesAll

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Sleeping_Sun
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posted June 19, 2015 09:06 PM

And how do you know that they are not making beastmen nowadays? From where did you get that information? Ashan compedium, some Heroes/M&M game, or something else?

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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posted June 19, 2015 10:58 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 22:59, 19 Jun 2015.

Sleeping_Sun said:
And how do you know that they are not making beastmen nowadays? From where did you get that information? Ashan compedium, some Heroes/M&M game, or something else?


His wild imagination and self ilusion :-D

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Sleeping_Sun
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posted June 19, 2015 11:07 PM

Dave_Jame said:
His wild imagination and self ilusion :-D
I know, I just want him to realize that.

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LightAvatarX
LightAvatarX


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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
posted June 20, 2015 12:46 PM

Oh my god!You two smarty
I got the point...
You have right I dont know it!I just wanted to defend Academy telling imaginative storyies...Just I dont like the fact that they may continue do expirements to people.But I still believe that doing expirements to criminal is not that bad thing....but still is bad...
Sorry for being @ssh0le all that time
I have just blind <3 for Academy.I will try to control myself...
Thanks you two cutie,for make me understand

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Elvin
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posted June 20, 2015 01:38 PM

What will not change is academy being one of the most amoral factions. When the ends justify the means there is a lot of room for atrocity, even in the name of 'good'. Just like in the old academy.
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