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blizz
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posted September 22, 2014 05:07 PM

I would vote for Sanctuary if they remove the boring lady spirits in the lineup and replace them with some new creature or even a naga.
If it's between Dungeon and Inferno then I would go for Dungeon but Hydra has to return, maybe as a champ even.
Inferno was present in every game and I was never a fan of it's play style or overly fiery theme.

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posted September 22, 2014 05:08 PM

cleglaw said:
Storm-Giant said:
EPICUSDOOMICUS said:
And, also, aren't you people tired of Inferno being the evil ones in every HMM game? No offense to anybody, that's my humble opinion

This has been answered before. The 'evil ones' in H7 is Haven (stag duchy)

but still, we need an evil faction(yeah stag duchy and so i know but as a design feel we still need an "evil")

And why would we need an evil faction? While it's boring to have the story going around Haven Empire again, I'm happy it's not the 'Good vs Evil' that gets so repetitive.

Not to mention we don't need an evil faction to have a common enemy. A well executed evil character leading some faction can do the trick (remember Sandro, Kilgor, etc...?)
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posted September 22, 2014 05:37 PM

Storm-Giant said:

And why would we need an evil faction? While it's boring to have the story going around Haven Empire again, I'm happy it's not the 'Good vs Evil' that gets so repetitive.

Not to mention we don't need an evil faction to have a common enemy. A well executed evil character leading some faction can do the trick (remember Sandro, Kilgor, etc...?)


We don't. A faction is only as evil as the Hero that is leading it.

HOWEVER we DO need evil creatures.
How frigging boring will the game be if all of the enemies you can fight will be holy/blessed/chosen/annointed of [NAMEOFGODHERE].
Necropolis vs 3 good and 2 neutral factions is not gonna cut it.

Either Dungeon has to be really evil, and I mean REALLY evil -I mean Blood to the Blood God levels of evil with barely controllable beast as every second unit- OR we need Inferno.
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posted September 22, 2014 05:42 PM

IMO what we need is more Factions fighting for power and territory, no just "every one vs evil faction"

And make characters gain more importance in the story of course. Dragon Gods can have influence, but they shouldn't be the only ones deciding the fate of the world.
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Stormcaller
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posted September 22, 2014 05:42 PM

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-I mean Blood to the Blood God levels of evil with barely controllable beast as every second unit- OR we need Inferno.


Surely you meant Blood for the Blood god?   Inferno is already like demons from warhammer 40k Xd

Besides, the uncontrollable rage is as well, the Orc faction


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posted September 22, 2014 05:51 PM

Stormcaller said:
Quote:
-I mean Blood to the Blood God levels of evil with barely controllable beast as every second unit- OR we need Inferno.


Surely you meant Blood for the Blood god?   Inferno is already like demons from warhammer 40k Xd

Besides, the uncontrollable rage is as well, the Orc faction




Current Infero units are winps compared to Warhammer Fantasy/WH40k. And don't even compare Orcs to them. Im hugely dissapointed in how the Orc faction has been developed.
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Stormcaller
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posted September 22, 2014 05:53 PM

I loved H5 Orcs. I played H6 only briefly so I have no idea abou their campaign, and most of the units were so-so design wise.

Might elaborate a bit why you don't like them?
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fuChris
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posted September 22, 2014 06:00 PM

It's not that I don't like them in perculiar...It's rather that all the factions can only occupy the Holy to the (bloody)Neutral on the moral scale with occasional episodes at the comically evil.
I on the other hand like my evil with a capital E.
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Stormcaller
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posted September 22, 2014 06:01 PM

Well, I do hope we get a properly " evil " Inferno then.
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EPICUSDOOMICUS
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posted September 22, 2014 07:50 PM

fuChris said:
Storm-Giant said:

And why would we need an evil faction? While it's boring to have the story going around Haven Empire again, I'm happy it's not the 'Good vs Evil' that gets so repetitive.

Not to mention we don't need an evil faction to have a common enemy. A well executed evil character leading some faction can do the trick (remember Sandro, Kilgor, etc...?)


We don't. A faction is only as evil as the Hero that is leading it.

HOWEVER we DO need evil creatures.
How frigging boring will the game be if all of the enemies you can fight will be holy/blessed/chosen/annointed of [NAMEOFGODHERE].
Necropolis vs 3 good and 2 neutral factions is not gonna cut it.

Either Dungeon has to be really evil, and I mean REALLY evil -I mean Blood to the Blood God levels of evil with barely controllable beast as every second unit- OR we need Inferno.

OR, we need Necro to be SUPER EVIL at last, not semi-neutral+ever-just-manipulating everyone else. Anyway, my personal best 2 factions throughout HMM series are 1)Necro 2)Dungeon and maybe that's why I'm so much against Inf getting in and one of the former getting out of the game. I am really orry if I have annoyed anyone
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posted September 22, 2014 07:51 PM

Storm-Giant said:
IMO what we need is more Factions fighting for power and territory, no just "every one vs evil faction"

And make characters gain more importance in the story of course. Dragon Gods can have influence, but they shouldn't be the only ones deciding the fate of the world.

This, sure we need, I totally agree!!
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posted September 22, 2014 08:00 PM

Storm-Giant said:

And why would we need an evil faction? While it's boring to have the story going around Haven Empire again, I'm happy it's not the 'Good vs Evil' that gets so repetitive.



Dark fantasy for the win

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MattII
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posted September 22, 2014 08:17 PM

Dungeon, because if Ubisoft stick Inferno in again they'll have everyone gang up on them. As for needing a pure evil faction, bull, ubisoft may like there being a pure evil faction, but it's far from necessary.

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Alex_Yakub
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posted September 22, 2014 08:45 PM
Edited by Alex_Yakub at 20:47, 22 Sep 2014.

Dungeon, of course! Give me my Heroes2 factions! Seriously, though, as I already said in the main discussion thread, I hope Dungeon wins, cause this will mean Heroes7 factions will mirror Heroes2 factions
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Royin
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posted September 22, 2014 08:48 PM

What if they just think of two entirely new factions and pit them against eachother? Like Pirates VS Ninjas?
...Please don't hit me

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RMZ1989
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posted September 23, 2014 12:52 AM

Alex_Yakub said:
Dungeon, of course! Give me my Heroes2 factions! Seriously, though, as I already said in the main discussion thread, I hope Dungeon wins, cause this will mean Heroes7 factions will mirror Heroes2 factions

I am trying to understand this notion, but I am failing hard at it. Why do people say this? What does it matter if the game has same "factions" that were in 2nd game of the series when 5 games later we don't have  same units, nor factions, nor heroes, nor spells, nor graphics, nor universe NOR ANYTHING RELATED?

Yes, we have the same 6 factions as in Heroes 2, except for the fact that 5 out of 6 are quite different.
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Alex_Yakub
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posted September 23, 2014 06:20 AM

RMZ1989 said:
Alex_Yakub said:
Dungeon, of course! Give me my Heroes2 factions! Seriously, though, as I already said in the main discussion thread, I hope Dungeon wins, cause this will mean Heroes7 factions will mirror Heroes2 factions

I am trying to understand this notion, but I am failing hard at it. Why do people say this? What does it matter if the game has same "factions" that were in 2nd game of the series when 5 games later we don't have  same units, nor factions, nor heroes, nor spells, nor graphics, nor universe NOR ANYTHING RELATED?

Yes, we have the same 6 factions as in Heroes 2, except for the fact that 5 out of 6 are quite different.

Because nostalgia
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JollyJoker
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posted September 23, 2014 07:34 AM

You probably can't find a guy who loves to play Inferno more than me - but Inferno is no faction in Ashan, but a plague, and I'm sick of playing a mindless insect swarm bent on destruction for destruction's sake, only to disappear again. Since Inferno cannot be more than that in Duke Ivan's time or before, and considering the story around Ivan - how is an Inferno representative to be his advisor? Can only be Kiril or Raelag, and I'm not interested in that either.

Also, I'd like an underground faction - why have it in the first place without an underground faction? - and a real Dragon in the game, too, and not the undead abomination or the elven lizard.

I mean, let's face it - if you see the daft line-ups for Sylvans you should by now know that EVERY Dungeon Elves line-up will be obviously better than the Sylvan ones. That faction deserves to get their asses kicked by their dark cousins, no matter the line-up that will materialize.

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Steyn
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posted September 23, 2014 09:17 AM

blizz said:
I would vote for Sanctuary if they remove the boring lady spirits in the lineup and replace them with some new creature or even a naga.
If it's between Dungeon and Inferno then I would go for Dungeon but Hydra has to return, maybe as a champ even.
Inferno was present in every game and I was never a fan of it's play style or overly fiery theme.

The hydra could also return as champion of swamp sanctuary. This could be an evil naga faction (cult of the destroyer) that wants to turn all land into swamp.
I suggested a possible line-up in the Creatures game thread:
Steyn said:

Sanctuary
Core:
1 coral priestess (= medusa)
2 dragonfly
3 kappa

Elite:
1 kensei
2 basilisk
3 water spirit thingy

Champion:
1 kirin
2 hydra


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EPICUSDOOMICUS
EPICUSDOOMICUS


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posted September 23, 2014 02:08 PM

JollyJoker said:

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Also, I'd like an underground faction - why have it in the first place without an underground faction? - and a real Dragon in the game, too, and not the undead abomination or the elven lizard.

I mean, let's face it - if you see the daft line-ups for Sylvans you should by now know that EVERY Dungeon Elves line-up will be obviously better than the Sylvan ones. That faction deserves to get their asses kicked by their dark cousins, no matter the line-up that will materialize.

Well spoken by an Inferno lover.
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