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posted October 03, 2014 05:07 PM |
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jhb said: Not so similar, I guess. ![](images/smilies/tongue.gif)
We've had every vote in common so far.
And I've said that the Stag will never replace the Unicorn. I've never said I disliked them.
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posted October 03, 2014 05:10 PM |
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War-overlord said:
jhb said: Not so similar, I guess. ![](images/smilies/tongue.gif)
We've had every vote in common so far.
And I've said that the Stag will never replace the Unicorn. I've never said I disliked them.
Now don't try to sugarcoat it, dude. You said you'd rather die than have Fury while Marzhin said it was his second option. That's a world of difference right there.
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posted October 03, 2014 05:10 PM |
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War-overlord said:
jhb said: Not so similar, I guess. ![](images/smilies/tongue.gif)
We've had every vote in common so far.
And I've said that the Stag will never replace the Unicorn. I've never said I disliked them.
just joking
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posted October 03, 2014 05:14 PM |
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Stevie said: Now don't try to sugarcoat it, dude. You said you'd rather die than have Fury while Marzhin said it was his second option. That's a world of difference right there. ![](images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Are you saying I'm a zombie?
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posted October 03, 2014 05:17 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 17:18, 03 Oct 2014.
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I hope Ubi already have some expansion(s) in mind. ![](images/icons/icon9.gif)
Kicking a faction out is not cool. lol
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posted October 03, 2014 05:25 PM |
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Stevie said:
Maurice said:
Nothing has been said about when those campaigns take place, relative to the time those stories are being told to Ivan. For all we know, the (possible) Inferno campaign could still be about the failure of the invasion during the previous Eclipse.
Omg... For the Nth time:
Marzhin said:
This would definitely not be an Eclipse story, I can tell you as much.
People still think its an eclipse/blood moon story Stevie and its really surprising how many people don't read the whole voting page.
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posted October 03, 2014 05:32 PM |
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I still haven't entirely decided. Dungeon is where my vote currently stands, but Inferno has the potential to be good but I would say it is a much larger risk to vote Inferno as their previous storylines were pretty monotone. But the way the storylines are presented in Heroes 7 may have some positive influence on Inferno. So my vote is still subject to change, convince me people!
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posted October 03, 2014 05:55 PM |
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Don't you want to see a Non-Eclipse demon plot? I'm just dying in expectation.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:02 PM |
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Edited by lokdron at 18:07, 03 Oct 2014.
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Kronos1000 said: I still haven't entirely decided. Dungeon is where my vote currently stands, but Inferno has the potential to be good but I would say it is a much larger risk to vote Inferno as their previous storylines were pretty monotone. But the way the storylines are presented in Heroes 7 may have some positive influence on Inferno. So my vote is still subject to change, convince me people!
Think about it we could see how kha-beleth became a demon in the first place. Since there are legends of him that he was a good man and used to be a freedom fighter.
We may get to actually see the Arch-demons themselves before Kha-beleth came to be in charge how they ran inferno society etc. Who knows we may also explore the issues and problems with each of the factions in the game and how the demons exploit that to recruit more heretics.
There is risk but I am willing to risk it for something fresh and new. The new campaign format allows flexibility in what kind of story they can tell Marzhin confirming that we are not getting an blood moon eclipse story makes me hopeful. The spy master himself says "but their tales are worth hearing, as it is often the lust for power that puts one on the path of Chaos worship…"
That is what I want to see how demons corrupt and and exploit the mental weakness of good men and women the children of ashan and turn them in heretics/demons.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:25 PM |
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I can only wonder how much a "Demonic Heretic" plot could go.
I mean, this is a really personal story, isn't it? It's good for lore, but is it good in game play? How would it play out?
When it comes to the big things, you have either Eclipses, or Demons bickering (really, mass murdering each other, but it's fine in Sheogh) among each other. I'd like to hear these "heretical" stories, but how would it work?
Would it be like Clash of Heroes, where Aidan (I think that's his name) finds the Blade of Binding and summons demons, become more demonic as he holds the blade? Would it be like Dark Messiah, where the main dude has a succubus planting thoughts in his head? (to be honest, this is getting as over done as the whole "Demons are attacking, time to fend them off" plot. Succubi have been the main demon-instigators in many of the games beyond Kha Beleth. They are even the same one, if we are following the "One Steve Rule", as I believe it may have been the same Jezebeth in Clash of Heroes and in that lore for the assassination of the empress, as well as Xana in Heroes 6 and Dark Messiah. Beyond them there is also Biara...)
I know Marzhin can't give away too much, but I am still not entirely sure what it would be. I thought perhaps it would focus on eclipses (I thought the First, as it would involve at the very least Haven, Academy and Stronghold) but if this isn't an "eclipse story", and it somehow isn't flat "demon politicking" plot then just what is it?
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posted October 03, 2014 06:28 PM |
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I think we had enough Inferno centric stories in the past games, we had invasion, internal struggles and we had deception etc. It time for other factions to get some spotlight.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:33 PM |
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It never ceases to amaze me how much emphasis people put on campaign storylines in a context like this. I mean, is campaigns really the part where you spend most of your play time? For me, it's much more important what factions I want in the general game, and how I feel the contribute to the overall feeling of the game. But either way, I guess no matter what one focuses on, for me it would be fresh to have a Heroes game *without* Inferno for the first time since H2.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:36 PM |
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alcibiades said: It never ceases to amaze me how much emphasis people put on campaign storylines in a context like this. I mean, is campaigns really the part where you spend most of your play time? For me, it's much more important what factions I want in the general game, and how I feel the contribute to the overall feeling of the game. But either way, I guess no matter what one focuses on, for me it would be fresh to have a Heroes game *without* Inferno for the first time since H2.
Personally? Yes. I very rarely play games in the multiplayer section unless it is with my brothers, and that's hot-seat if anything. Most of my time is spent in the campaign.
I am in no way the common Heroes player, but that doesn't mean I'm not a Heroes player at all. I'd like both the feel of a faction and the story of the faction to be good.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:36 PM |
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Protolisk said: if we are following the "One Steve Rule", as I believe it may have been the same Jezebeth in Clash of Heroes and in that lore for the assassination of the empress, as well as Xana in Heroes 6 and Dark Messiah.
They are the same persons.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:41 PM |
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Personally, I prefer to finish campaigns first then play hotseat sessions and multiplayer.
Custom games kinda spoil the fun for you if you do them first, where as campaigns usually let you gradually unlock units for each mission so it's more fun.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:41 PM |
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alcibiades said: It never ceases to amaze me how much emphasis people put on campaign storylines in a context like this. I mean, is campaigns really the part where you spend most of your play time? For me, it's much more important what factions I want in the general game, and how I feel the contribute to the overall feeling of the game. But either way, I guess no matter what one focuses on, for me it would be fresh to have a Heroes game *without* Inferno for the first time since H2.
Total agreement.
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posted October 03, 2014 06:41 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 18:44, 03 Oct 2014.
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When voting for faction keep in mind that we are going to vote for line up later on.
so we may end up with the line-up we didnt really desire
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posted October 03, 2014 06:48 PM |
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Stormcaller said: Personally, I prefer to finish campaigns first then play hotseat sessions and multiplayer.
Custom games kinda spoil the fun for you if you do them first, where as campaigns usually let you gradually unlock units for each mission so it's more fun.
Yea, this.
Campaigns are very good intros to the game and usually cover a lot of its flavor. I haven't seen that when I was little but now I'm definitely that type of guy. Naturally I want a good campaign, and naturally devs have to deliver one regardless of what one or another thinks.
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posted October 03, 2014 07:00 PM |
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jackson said:
alcibiades said: It never ceases to amaze me how much emphasis people put on campaign storylines in a context like this. I mean, is campaigns really the part where you spend most of your play time? For me, it's much more important what factions I want in the general game, and how I feel the contribute to the overall feeling of the game. But either way, I guess no matter what one focuses on, for me it would be fresh to have a Heroes game *without* Inferno for the first time since H2.
Total agreement.
yeah, you can add another +1 from me
who cares whether there's an eclipse or not ffs, how does that impact the actual game?
it's pretty backwards to prioritize the official campaign story above all else,
I mean don't any of these people care about playing through some other stories, or telling their own? tales which aren't tied to goddamn Ashan and one specific plot?
but I guess the days of H2 and H3 where we got to enjoy piles and piles of amazing single scenarios from fans are dead and buried, lol
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posted October 03, 2014 07:02 PM |
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Yeah true picking one of the factions is irrelevant, if the writer is good then the story is too no matter who wins.
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