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Thread: Horn of the Abyss Proposals/Wishlists This thread is 24 pages long: 1 ... 7 8 9 10 11 ... 20 24 · «PREV / NEXT»
Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 13, 2015 01:24 AM

phoenix4ever said:
I have been playing this game about 15 years so I'm not a complete noob.

The number of years you play a game means nothing. I play the game ever since it is out and I still learn new ways of playing even today. You don't even seem to listen to the advices people give you here. It looks like you just seek confrontation, even though people take the time to reply to you the best they can.
I have been trying to redirect you to WoG as it seems you are unhappy with a lot of things and WoG actually allows you to shape the game as you like and set your own rules. You can replace all graphics and script about everything. IMHO would be the better alternative for you.

phoenix4ever said:
This game is in desperate need of balancing and since the developers had no clue how to balance it, we the fans have to do it for them.

The people you are talking about are doing this outstanding expansion on their free time. Show some respect. Moreover if you love HotA as you claim.

Thanks for your consideration.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 13, 2015 01:31 AM

Galaad I was not talking about the HotA team, I was taking about original developers NWC. I have the utmost respect for the HotA team. You don't have to misunderstand everything on purpose and I already told you I don't wanna play WoG.
This is a thread about suggestions for HotA which is exactly what I'm posting here. If you don't like my suggestions, too bad, make some better suggestions yourself or do something else.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 13, 2015 01:43 AM

phoenix4ever said:
Galaad I was not talking about the HotA team, I was taking about original developers NWC.

My mistake, but respect goes to NWC developers too. Don't ever forget they are the people who created this awesome series with JVC. And if it wasn't for them, there would be no HotA nor WoG, not even Ubi-Heroes.
Also, I think your suggestions, especially about balancing, clearly shows you don't understand what HotA is doing. And I could be wrong, but I think you are annoying many people here.
As for my personal wishes, I only have one and it is on the very first page of this thread.

I didn't mean to offend you, but I really don't understand what you are doing here.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 13, 2015 02:07 AM

Yes yes NWC did a good job, but the balance is'nt perfect okay.
HotA did some balance and bugfixes. They nerfed Conflux and Necropolis and buffed Inferno for example. They also introduced new artifacts and changed Badge of Courage. So why is it so unreasonable to ask if they had similar plans with spells?

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted May 13, 2015 09:44 AM
Edited by Maurice at 09:45, 13 May 2015.

phoenix4ever said:
So why is it so unreasonable to ask if they had similar plans with spells?


I think the main issue is that you pose those questions in a highly opinionated manner, which rubs people the wrong way. It comes across as if you know what's best for the game as a whole, while you explicitely exclude random maps and multiplayer.

Whatever you do in your personal maps is up to you, of course. Disable or enable all and everything to your hearts' desire. Just don't assume that personal preference with regards to some spells is mainstream preference.

Personally, no Town Portal is fine for smaller-ish maps, but once you get to a certain size, it becomes an immense chore to maintain map control and defend against sneak attacks without that spell.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 13, 2015 10:49 AM

It is weird how you can't handle me asking a question and believing in my own ideas. If you don't like it just turn the other way, no need to bash me in the head if you disagrees. No one even bothered to answer my original question: Does anyone know if the team plan on changing or implementing new spells? (Like they did with artifacts) Instead I was met with insults, if anyone should be annoyed it should be me.

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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted May 13, 2015 11:25 AM

phoenix4ever said:
It is weird how you can't handle me asking a question and believing in my own ideas. If you don't like it just turn the other way, no need to bash me in the head if you disagrees. No one even bothered to answer my original question: Does anyone know if the team plan on changing or implementing new spells? (Like they did with artifacts) Instead I was met with insults, if anyone should be annoyed it should be me.


Quoted from nik in the HotA thread:

nik312 said:
In some future version, as was once announced, there will be some skill and probably spell tweaks. But not too soon. Current balance version must stabilize in players' minds before that

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted May 13, 2015 11:55 AM

Galaad said:

I have been trying to redirect you to WoG


This is what amazes me too: some people explicitly ask for high customizable Heroes game but then refuse to play wog, which allows exactly for that. And phoenix, don't forget that wog does not force you to any "weird or ugly" graphic/scripts, but offers you the possibility to build your own Heroes III setup on clean SoD game. It is Heroes complete with script support.

And btw, nobody insulted you.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 13, 2015 12:05 PM

Thank you Pellish.
And Sala I still don't know about WoG, what I've seen of it I did'nt like, on the other hand I love HotA and to know they will possibly change skills and spells in the future makes me a happy man.

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Spike
Spike


Hired Hero
posted May 13, 2015 01:14 PM

phoenix4ever said:
If you don't like it just turn the other way, no need to bash me in the head if you disagrees.


This is not "bashing YOU".

You post your wishes...
And some people answer to you, using argument, to tell you, why some of your wishes are BAD IDEAS or are not applicable for all.

But you are not always a good interlocutor, because you are not really open minded...

I know that, you don't like WoG (like me) but if it's more customisable than HotA and pretty close to your wishes, why don't you try, just a little bit...

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 13, 2015 01:45 PM

Well it might be bad ideas in their mind, but not in mine.
Why do you wan't me to play WoG if I don't wan't to? I know I can be pretty stubborn and hard to change my mind, but people can't change my mind, only I can change my mind by learning otherwise. I still don't see how it is a bad idea to balance out the magic schools in the damage department, as it is now Water sucks and Earth rocks. If you had the oppurtunity to cast Frost Ring or Implosion what would you choose?...

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 13, 2015 01:51 PM
Edited by Galaad at 14:01, 13 May 2015.

phoenix4ever said:
I still don't see how it is a bad idea to balance

Balance this balance that... Personally I like imba because I think it's FUN, especially during HOTSEATS.
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted May 13, 2015 01:54 PM
Edited by Maurice at 13:55, 13 May 2015.

phoenix4ever said:
If you had the oppurtunity to cast Frost Ring or Implosion what would you choose?...


You mean to kill off those 6 Gnolls who have surrounded my Titan who has 1 HP left?


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husham123
husham123


Famous Hero
Yes
posted May 13, 2015 03:44 PM

Add Forge, Add Oasis, and then add 5 new spells:
-Tsunami
-Fire Blade
-Water Blade
-Earth Blade
-Air Blade
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ericoz
ericoz


Adventuring Hero
posted May 13, 2015 11:41 PM

If you play HOMM3 for 15+ years and don't know that a might main hero is the only way to win PVP...

That ANY damage/single target spell is not worth a turn to cast instead of a mass haste/slow/buff/debuff...

That power/knowledge are worse than attack/defense...

That ALL secondary skills related to magic are inferior to the ones related to might. The only ones worth mentioning are Wisdom/earth magic.

You sir, are a noob.

The might hero can do anything the magic hero can. You need to constantly level up to increase your spellcaster strength while might heroes get their creatures each week and also level up. It's simple math how might is better.

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Spike
Spike


Hired Hero
posted May 14, 2015 01:36 AM

ericoz said:
If you play HOMM3 for 15+ years and don't know that a might main hero is the only way to win PVP...

That ANY damage/single target spell is not worth a turn to cast instead of a mass haste/slow/buff/debuff...

That power/knowledge are worse than attack/defense...

That ALL secondary skills related to magic are inferior to the ones related to might. The only ones worth mentioning are Wisdom/earth magic.

You sir, are a noob.

The might hero can do anything the magic hero can. You need to constantly level up to increase your spellcaster strength while might heroes get their creatures each week and also level up. It's simple math how might is better.



I'm ok with your arguments, but don't be so agressive...

You forget that when you play against CPU, the choice of the hero is not important, you can win easily the party whit a "Magic hero"...

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ericoz
ericoz


Adventuring Hero
posted May 14, 2015 01:53 AM

cpu is very easy to beat. HOMM3 AI is just weak.

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Spike
Spike


Hired Hero
posted May 14, 2015 11:36 PM

ericoz said:
cpu is very easy to beat. HOMM3 AI is just weak.


Yes, that's what we said and then ????

Phoenix4ever play ofen against CPU and that is the reason why I advise you to not be so agressive when you speack to him.

Everybody here know that Might Heroes are better than Magic Heroes,  but when you play against CPU, it doesn't care...

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 14, 2015 11:51 PM

Spike said:


Yes, that's what we said and then ????

Phoenix4ever play ofen against CPU and that is the reason why I advise you to not be so agressive when you speack to him.

Everybody here know that Might Heroes are better than Magic Heroes,  but when you play against CPU, it doesn't care...



Yes that's right I only play with cpu and friends. We can't all be elite pro competitive players. And I am probably far from the best player there is and I never claimed to be. Still I have A LOT of knowledge and experience with this game and I care a lot about balance even though I don't play competively. Yes that might sound strange to you, but that's how it is. Some things are just too good in this game, like certain heroes, spells and artifacts so I like to balance things out...

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Spike
Spike


Hired Hero
posted May 15, 2015 12:40 AM
Edited by Spike at 00:42, 15 May 2015.

phoenix4ever said:
Spike said:


Yes, that's what we said and then ????

Phoenix4ever play ofen against CPU and that is the reason why I advise you to not be so agressive when you speack to him.

Everybody here know that Might Heroes are better than Magic Heroes,  but when you play against CPU, it doesn't care...



Yes that's right I only play with cpu and friends. We can't all be elite pro competitive players. And I am probably far from the best player there is and I never claimed to be. Still I have A LOT of knowledge and experience with this game and I care a lot about balance even though I don't play competively. Yes that might sound strange to you, but that's how it is. Some things are just too good in this game, like certain heroes, spells and artifacts so I like to balance things out...



Phoenix did you understand that i was supporting you ?



But You are wrong when you say  that you have lot of Xp...

The proof: You cannot have a lot of Xp if you never play against strong humans and you still using bad tactics, like casting implosion spell during battle...

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