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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 14, 2015 11:51 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
That would help, indeed. However, I still fear it becomes very gimmicky instead of being a solid addition to gameplay. Or maybe I'm old-fashioned and miss the good old days where HoMM development made sense. Oh well 
That's how i remember/imagine H3 working with creature elemental damage.
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 15, 2015 12:15 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
if the creature is immune to fire damage it takes at leas 50% damage from creature fire attacks unless it's an ability/effect like magog fireball. That's how i would solve it at least 
That is h4 did it plus creatures were immune to fire attack spells. I am fine with it as long as it is used sparingly.
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"Don't resist the force. Redirect it. Water over rock."-blizzardboy
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted August 15, 2015 12:31 AM |
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Edited by Maurice at 00:34, 15 Aug 2015.
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LightAvatarX said:
Wow there are so thousands of Galaadlehaut's in this website.
Actually, there are a lot of people who still have a grip over their emotions and don't go all hyper - either pro Ashan like you do or anti Ashan like Galaad does (at least, like he does on the Shadow Council).
For those who still use their ratio instead of their emotions (rather than letting emotions decide their stance with regards to the current game in development), they try to evaluate the strong points as well as the weaknesses and then address those in a calm manner, suggesting improvements or alternatives. That has nothing to do with being a "rabid fanboi" of Enroth; even if Rakshasa's general demeanor is negative ("boring" is one of his favorite words  ), he's not hyper and/or emotional about either Ashan or Enroth.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 15, 2015 12:36 AM |
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I dunno. I think the Ashan hate is pretty obvious.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 15, 2015 12:39 AM |
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Maurice said:
he's not hyper and/or emotional about either Ashan.
I would say he is very emotional in his utter disdain for it.
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"Don't resist the force. Redirect it. Water over rock."-blizzardboy
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lightavatarx
Known Hero
Water,Earth,Fire,Air
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posted August 15, 2015 12:39 AM |
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I just know thst this place is full of Gallaadlehauts!
Evil french necromacers,who hate everything,have not life and are mjsicians!
I am in shadow council every day and there,there are normal people who love the game.Here the only normal person I can find is my lovely naga,Mediczero <3
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted August 15, 2015 02:33 AM |
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alcibiades said:
The_Green_Drag said:
I don't like it either. Maybe it can add more strategy but honestly I just see it as an excuse to make more bad ashan units who's only difference is their damage elemental type.
Oh come on, aren't we getting a bit close to conspiracy theories now? 
I'm not crazy  but I'll give you an example of what I mean. In the beta we had disciples and fire elementals, both elite shooters with the exact same abilities. Similar stats expect hp, the Fire elementals had double the disciples. Other than that the difference was, fire elementals attacking with fire Attacks and disciples attacked with some other kind of damage, maybe prime. Point is, we have copy/paste line ups, repeated abilities, and way too many elves; ubi obviously doesn't think very abstract when creating things so Id prefer more challenging ways to overcome the unit blending than giving them 7 (or 8 counting physical) different "attack elements" to differentiate creatures with. I dread on how different each factions elite shooter is really going to be, besides an ability or two and their attack element?
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 15, 2015 10:31 AM |
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Gryphs said:
Maurice said:
he's not hyper and/or emotional about either Ashan.
I would say he is very emotional in his utter disdain for it.
I'm not emotional, i'm a drama-queen with a Wrath.
There is a difference!
With so many games (lufia, neverwinter nights, doom, dead space, castlevania, donkey kong, zelda, and the list goes on forever) gone or destroyed by youth's ugly taste, it leaves me kinda mad that there are so little games left to play these days.
All mobile phone games to get your money, all these horrible massive multiplayer online-addiction games which I find horrible to begin with, all these games based on money, all the good games from long ago turn into multiplayer online games you have to pay for, and the graphics are horrible because the world is too damn big, cool 2D games turn into horrible 3D games (homm being one of them, but lufia and castlevania are victims too)
Most of the other games that stayed the same are the games I really disliked in the past, like sport, racing and human-war-shooting games (without aliens or monsters in it), those stay the same while others perish.
Mortal Kombat went back to it's roots, but popular boring characters spoiled the game for me anywayz.
HOMM3 has a special place in my heart, and seeing that game going the same road as so many others breaks my heart on multiple spots, but i'm far from emotional, as I don't have emotion, only wrath, and that wrath goes to the little children that love beautiful colors and Erwan with his very bad taste in fantasy.
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lightavatarx
Known Hero
Water,Earth,Fire,Air
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posted August 15, 2015 12:08 PM |
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Deqr afcheological minded Rakshasa.I am young and I have different taste from all of you here.
It is truth that tje games ha e changed like 10-15 years ago with a different taste.But I play heroes III and Heroes VI and I like and the two of them.
I like and old and new things.And I feel that Ubisoft upgrades he game wih it 's decisions.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted August 15, 2015 01:01 PM |
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lightavatarx said:
And I feel that Ubisoft upgrades he game wih it 's decisions.
Feeling something doesn't make it a fact. I feel that I can fly but I can't in actuality... This forum has written the walls and walls of text that prove you wrong... Skill pizza, bland specialities, just to name few...
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TD
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 15, 2015 01:36 PM |
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@Light I wouldn't really agree that people here are all like Galaad and are anti-Ashan. Many do have problems with games placed on Ashan, but mainly because there lore seems to dictate and rule over game-play features, designs and decisions. If everything wasn't taken so literally it would give much more options for line-ups, designs and game-play features. For me the best game of the series was h5 which is placed on Ashan. The lore? I don't give a damn about it, I just like the game because it has depth and it's fun to play. It was only with h6 that I took dislike because it was so simplified even a chimpanzee could play it(seriously that is how I feel about the game) because it requires so little thinking it's hard to even call it strategy game. This is also where h7 has the same problem in my mind, it has yet again been simplified and eased so much it doesn't offer any real challenge and it's all about just getting yet another optimized build. It kept great deal of the problems h6 had, but pretty much dumped the few good sides h6 had on ideological level.
And you are right about games changing and for me that is unfortunate. I loved games that had lots of replayability, but nowadays most games are something I play through once(if even that in some cases) and never touch them again. For me they just focus on the wrong things(quite often graphics, physics and multiplayer). Game modes I used to love playing in FPS like capture the flag for example are getting replaced by more modern modes and games go more arcade instead of realism/hard-core. For example Call of Duty was a series I loved playing quick game of HC CTF, but nowadays such game-mode doesn't exist. It has been replaced by HC camper wars(read domination). Final Fantasy series is all about smashing buttons and reacting really fast instead of being turn-based(and no open world either!)and focusing on the story. I consider myself lucky these days if I can find one or two good games in a year(and I buy a lot more). I'm actually sad for you light for era you were born. My generation still got games that were targeting niche markets and that took risks with their unique approaches on games while you are stuck with games that are mainly made to target masses and even more so casual players. Another problem of games today is that lot of them from bigger publishers are just milking the titles by making sequel after sequel without really often even improving anything or just making remakes(you can count Ubi as part of these companies). Btw Ubisoft actually used to be a company that I respected until it started to think more financially (one or two quarters at a time) rather than long-term brand-building(making good games).
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 15, 2015 02:26 PM |
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I agree with what TD says, I'm myself one who has been very vocal in my criticism of this game and how the lore has been used to dictate certain aspect of it, but I'm not against Ashan itself. I actually like most of what's the core of Ashan (as I see it): I like the way factions are divided by races (moving the game closer to what I consider core fantasy whether one considers that Tolkien or D&D or some third party), I like the map, and I think the myth of creation as it was presented around Heroes 5 sets a fantastic setting for the entire world.
What I don't like is how they use "Ashan" to justify decisions that has nothing to do with Ashan itself. Core example: "Knights can't learn Dark Magic in Ashan." This is an absurd justification for something for two reasons: First of all, that is only so because they decided it should be so. They could just decide that Knights could learn Dark Magic in Ashan, should they want to. It's ok if they don't want Knights to learn Dark Magic - I don't agree with it, but that's their prerogative - but at least have the balls to stand by this decision.
Secondly, it's absurd, because in H5 - which also took place in Ashan - Knights could learn Dark Magic, and they not only could learn it, it was actually a fairly likely skill for them to acquire (8 % if I'm not mistaken, meaning that it was much more likely than Destructive Magic and Summoning Magic, both at 2 %). So not only are they using a bad argument, they are also using a false argument in terms of their own history - and when obviously they could retcon this part out between H5 and H6, there's nothing that prevents them from putting it back in again, should they want to.
Similarly, I hate how they try to be "original" by making completely well-established creatures into something new - like the Liches turning into Vampires and drinking Namtaru blood, and what-not. For me, that kills immersion rather than helps it, and by adding layer and layer of this lore on top of the game, it's as if suddenly the lore is more important to them than the game itself (which might well be true, one could speculate), and for me that's a bad thing.
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LightAvatarX
Known Hero
Water,Earth,Fire,Air
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posted August 15, 2015 04:21 PM |
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I like all of Ubisoft's cenetomys.I really apreciate every new detail.
But is truth that Ubisoft snow it up sometimes.
But we have to discover new things and judge if they are good or no.
And I am glad there are not only Galaadlehauts in this site 
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted August 15, 2015 07:06 PM |
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LightAvatarX said:
I like all of Ubisoft's cenetomys.I really apreciate every new detail.
But is truth that Ubisoft snow it up sometimes.
But we have to discover new things and judge if they are good or no.
And I am glad there are not only Galaadlehauts in this site
I'm glad you are one for the only extreme young people here, and one of the few UbiSlimey's.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 15, 2015 07:50 PM |
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In H5 there was even a specific Dark Knight perk that was for Dark Magic Knights only.
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Over himself, over his own
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted August 16, 2015 05:21 AM |
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Edited by jhb at 05:37, 16 Aug 2015.
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Dungeon heroes looks pretty cool, especially the magic ones.
but some of the units should get more love, a pity.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted August 16, 2015 06:13 AM |
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Edited by Kimarous at 06:49, 16 Aug 2015.
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LightAvatarX said:
I like all of Ubisoft's cenetomys.
Their... what? Not sure if a typo or not, since I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted August 16, 2015 10:13 AM |
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Kimarous said:
LightAvatarX said:
I like all of Ubisoft's cenetomys.
Their... what? Not sure if a typo or not, since I have no idea what you're talking about.
Google translate gone wrong? 
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted August 16, 2015 12:59 PM |
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Kimarous said:
LightAvatarX said:
I like all of Ubisoft's cenetomys.
Their... what? Not sure if a typo or not, since I have no idea what you're talking about.
I *think* he means townscreens, commonly known to us as military outpost screens.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted August 16, 2015 03:29 PM |
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So are these heroes Shadow Sorceress/rs or no omg i need answers.
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