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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: Nimostar's Releases [WITH TOTAL CONVERSION "Greatest Mod"]
Thread: Nimostar's Releases [WITH TOTAL CONVERSION "Greatest Mod"] This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · «PREV / NEXT»
NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted August 31, 2017 10:07 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 22:09, 31 Aug 2017.

I haven't seen anything that indicates anyone has ever asked for the source code to be released :V

THough Ubisoft is not the type of publisher that does this... but others did; Quake I think had source code released. And other publishers like Blizzard decided to give their old titles new live, like Starcraft Remastered.

Even Microsoft has sucessfully released HD and expansions for goddamned Age of Empires II, up to now two decades after it appears. They also did so with Age of Mythology, both based on an anateur group of modders that got their projects "adopted" by the parent company.

Even the dreaded EA has frequently released CNC compilations with compatibility upgrades, and they made Tiberian Sun free to promote the CNC franchise.

Ubisoft hasn't had any mod support at all. They also didn't release worthwhile compilations. They haven't done any compatibility upgrades. They have the worst support of all companies. They even stop development of their flagship titles before they are even bugfixed... sort of "sweep it under the rug" attitude. They have flashy PR events and then abandon their titles with underbudgeted and overworked thirld parties.
It is likely that based on this, Ubisoft is an even worse publisher than EA, if that's even possible...

Anyways...

Stopping the rant...

There is little to lose but a little time by even trying, Both private letters and public petitions could be started, appealing not only to our interest but also showing it would be a "good thing" for them to do, and pointing out the sucessess other companies have had with similar approaches.


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On the other front, I hope the life-sucking Pokemon GO lets you... go ;V

Then we could have quite almost literally an H4 "on steroids" (since "injected" code : P )
And finally the dream of making an ultimate mod could be closer (if still a dream)

Here is the one I gave as example before, too bad the link didin't appear then:
https://github.com/Ares-Developers/Ares
Although that seems to be an outdated page since there are newer versions that don't appear (I think 0.d is the latest)
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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


Famous Hero
posted August 31, 2017 10:52 PM

Well do you need a signature list by fellow minded fans asking Ubi to release the source code or are you gonna send an edited copy of your post to them asking for it ;-)
I'm guessing you'd have most of the fan (sites) societies behind you.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted August 31, 2017 10:54 PM

Petition seems the most sensible route with a kindly worded one, then forward the petition in e-mails and private messages to Ubi offices and employees to make them notice.

As most people don't care so much for H4 , H3 source code will have to be included on the petition too :V
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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


Famous Hero
posted August 31, 2017 11:24 PM

Well I'm certain you could easily find several native English speaking fans, who would help put together a nicely formulated request, if you don't feel like the right person to write it or they could help you 'polish' it.

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iliveinabox05
iliveinabox05


Adventuring Hero
posted September 01, 2017 12:01 AM

NimoStar said:
On the other front, I hope the life-sucking Pokemon GO lets you... go ;V


Haha, we can hope!

NimoStar said:
Here is the one I gave as example before, too bad the link didin't appear then:
https://github.com/Ares-Developers/Ares
Although that seems to be an outdated page since there are newer versions that don't appear (I think 0.d is the latest)


I'll take a look!

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 01, 2017 03:05 AM

I have seen that in Equilibris you already said that Pokemon GO didn't let you program back in 2016... but there is still hope

In other news... I will take a break until tomorrow to write the petition/letters.

Until then please will anyone contact a mod to separate this topic from the mod topic?

Into a new topic titled "More options for modding with source code"

All posts could be transpkanted starting at least from my long post on the previous page...

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Also, reccommend good petition sites for this sort of thing if you know any :V
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Roman2211
Roman2211

Tavern Dweller
posted September 01, 2017 06:17 AM
Edited by Roman2211 at 06:23, 01 Sep 2017.

With both hands for petition! Source code should be open, because the H4 is old game.

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted September 01, 2017 10:16 AM

All NWC games are very old and should be public domain. Ubi has own games and can earn from it.

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dredknight
dredknight


Promising
Supreme Hero
disrupting the moding industry
posted September 06, 2017 03:39 PM

Nice things you say here. I think we can do a petition for both H4 and H5 source code. It is not that we need the Heroes V source code but if it is once made public Quantomas wouldn't be afraid anymore to share his work.
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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 15, 2017 02:41 PM

Maybe, but we have a problem with H5 in that it is still a game sold and developed within UBI, also it is 3D and much more modern...
I think it should be a separate petition.

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In any case, here are some updates spotlight for next version of the mod.

It will be called: THE RESTORATION OF AXEOTH (Get it? )


New combat terrain: Field of Life hybrid


New combat terrain: Scorched Earth hybrid



Creature portraits, now ringless


Town screen background changes.
Now all Dungeon backgrounds will be underground! (But different types of undergrounds )

Stay in tune because next upgrade will be the showcase for the technologies that ill revolutionize Heroes 4 forever and bring it closer to the level of H3 modding! (And eventually, better)
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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


Famous Hero
posted September 17, 2017 02:34 PM

The Restoration of Axeoth.. try looking it up and facebook
I think you'll find another H4 project with that name..

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted September 17, 2017 03:27 PM

My mod built finally 2 years ago name is Restoration of Herathia! So dont tell that I copy your idea if you find it! I want to join HIII and HIV because HIII world destruction was big fail. So I think about campaign in HIV with Catherine and Emila Nighthaven.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 18, 2017 06:37 PM

Damnit! I just wanted a recognizable name, since this "greatest mod" thing is not a real name :V

Also I will need a new campaign with that...

So... possibilities...

- HOMM: The Fourth Star

- H4: Waves of Invasion

- HOMM4: Legacy of the NWC

- Heroes 4: Phase II

Which one you like. Ah who I am kidding, they suck

Names open to suggestions, then
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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted September 18, 2017 06:57 PM

Rebirth of Axeoth will be good. Its the same!

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avatar


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2017 07:16 PM

Why Rebirth? It was dead? I think that something like 'Forgotten Tales' will be more accurate.

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Jonny Come Sometime
posted September 18, 2017 07:37 PM

mate why to have a Restoration of Axeoth as a parallel to Restoration of Erathia anyway, that is a poor parallel to be sure for Axeoth is a veritable planet while Erathia is a mere kingdom or nation-state lol

that's a tidbit like Restoration of Mars for Restoration of England, to get a parallel better a Restoration of Palaedra or Iranese if you would ask me or even of Great Arcan (does not roll off the tongue albeit) cheers lol
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Karmakeld
Karmakeld


Famous Hero
posted September 18, 2017 11:00 PM

avatar said:
Why Rebirth? It was dead? I think that something like 'Forgotten Tales' will be more accurate.


Not that it's a bad name, but what is it about his mod, that recovers what was forgotten? Or Tales? It would be fitting if NimoStar was planning to do a project like making the two unreleased Campaigns, as those story could be considered Forgotten Tales. Sorry to say, but in my optic Forgotten Tales would just be misleading, unless he would add a bunch of campaigns set in Axeoth, and then again, you would collide with the question of fan based stories being 'Forgotten Tales'.

I think Verriker has a good point (as always), although we did pick the exact same name The Restoration of Axeoth for the above mentioned campaigns, based on community suggestions. At the end of the day, it's just a name and I don't think we're any more entitled to use it, than you are. At worst it might be a handfull of people who might think the two projects would have anything in common or being made by the same person(s), I guess that's the worst that could happen

I would go for a name that somehow sums up your intention with your mod -
like the faction changes.

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted September 18, 2017 11:11 PM
Edited by Baronus at 23:12, 18 Sep 2017.

Baronus

RE BIRTH means second birth not turn dead. So its synonime to restoration. I dont know better.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 19, 2017 03:34 PM

I don'0t think there is anything wrong with "restoring a whole planet", if we are talking about restoring the lore and game where Axeoth first appears, and then it was left to rot by Ubi as they changed to Ashan...


But anyways, as pointed out, that name is taken.
And also many already did "Forgotten this or that", including H3: Forgotten Empires and also Heroes things as well

I think I will go with "Heroes 4: Return of the Ancients"

- Sounds good
- The Ancients have a lore point in NWC continuity
- It doubles to say "it is a return of an ancient game"
- Also ancient players :V

- Sets up the theme to having cool new map objects and artifacts as discoveries of "Ancient" stuff and ruins on the planet.

Etc.



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StevenAus
StevenAus


Adventuring Hero
HC SUPPORTER
posted October 07, 2017 01:08 AM

There are a few issues and bugs with the latest version.  I sent you an email and a PM on Celestial Heavens.  Could you reply to me?

Look forward to hearing from you.

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