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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 12, 2017 10:22 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 12, 2017 11:24 PM |
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Stevie said:
Remember those tricks we discovered a while back? That's not something you can post on a public forum. You will let everyone know about them, including the devs, and the advantage you're supposed to gain turns into a non-advantage. This time we found something so good we had to delete two pages of posts and head to discord to keep the information between ourselves. But if you really don't wanna come, then I guess that's how it is.
Yeah well first of all I don't see what's wrong about sharing information in a forum and specifically one like HC which is full of tricks and exploits about the Heroes series and the Might and Magic IP in general. Second of all, I mean lmao you think the designers are not aware of their own game's flaws? And you outright say you don't want them to read the forums they are reading on top of it? Please take a second to think on your actions Stevie. I did quit discord pretty fast because I don't see the point of moving the conversations in some other place, with no recent Might and Magic titles to discuss about I want to keep HC the most active possible with Creature Quest. Because the forum is ****ing dying just what the hell are you on about. Be aware the only reason I'm keeping you after such behavior is solely because of your high prestige and constant dedication to the game and the guild which I cannot discard.
Then about Sylve, I don't take it. I had already kicked him out once and left general messages about prestige a few times in the guild chat. If someone wants to tell me something I'm here to listen, either in the chat or preferably here, otherwise I am no wizard to guess what's in people's minds. I did take him back anyway but then noticed the prestige was kinda idle around same than before. With priority of HC members when I need to kick out somebody it has to be someone from the outside first, then inactive HCers. I am currently keeping the door shut to motivated players with high prestige pending because of this policy, but I don't think Vancho or Jolly for instance can keep on rolling their thumbs without posting here nor playing much in the challenges, benefiting from the rewards everybody but them worked for. OTOH it's not all about prestige, AxeTerio for instance doesn't score very high but he is active here and made a great contribution to the Compendium so I am very unlikely to kick him out.
Please do not bring back whatever it is you are talking about on discord here any longer. Thanks in advance.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 13, 2017 12:33 AM |
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I would like to keep the tone of the conversation friendly. I reflected on my actions as you requested and it seems to me that everything I've done so far was in good will and for the sake of the guild. If you have any specific complaint about my behavior, I'm all ears.
I don't understand why anyone would take an issue with a guild IRC, I can only see the benefits of bringing people together and leisurely discussing unimpeded by a forum format. That might come at the expense of less posting here, but keeping HC alive is not one of my life's priorities and I wouldn't understand why it would be anyone's except the owner's. In fact, an IRC for HC was proposed at times, but Valery decided to not go for it, so reorienting for one outside of the community was the only option left. And to explain again why we collectively decided on this, and I emphasize collectively - it's because the game is a competition. You don't want to announce the enemy what tricks and strategies you use on a public forum, that is at your disadvantage. And I know for a fact that there's many other guilds reading here because I already have half of my friends lists full of them (and guess where they got the code from). Also, while the devs might know about the shortcomings of their game, they do not know who, if and when people are abusing or exploiting them, unless people let them know themselves and make it much easier to receive a ban for breaking the rules (yes, the game has rules about that). Anonymity of your actions keeps you safe.
I don't feel strongly with regards to Sylve, he was not a member here after all. But then again, we have people who are technically members and weren't half as active as he was. Then, you don't have to be a wizard to understand that using challenge packs on the last day of the event is quite frankly a common strategy, because there is less time for enemies to attack and take away your prestige. So I guessed that the kick involved a bit of a misunderstanding and I only wanted to bring that into your attention to provide some clarity. Then again, getting players with 8k prestige instead of him is great, so props for that.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 13, 2017 02:01 AM |
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Stevie said:
I reflected on my actions as you requested and it seems to me that everything I've done so far was in good will and for the sake of the guild. If you have any specific complaint about my behavior, I'm all ears.
Well, I just told you. Maybe you need to reflect on it for more than 10 mns?
Stevie said:
I don't understand why anyone would take an issue with a guild IRC, I can only see the benefits of bringing people together and leisurely discussing unimpeded by a forum format [...]
And I know for a fact that there's many other guilds reading here because I already have half of my friends lists full of them (and guess where they got the code from).
I take issue with it because it drives the interaction away from the forums, if the HC guild conversations don't take place in HC I see something is wrong. Personally I don't care if people from other guilds read here, in fact I'm glad if they do, I even invite them to register and join us. If you are bothered by the lurkers you brought here by yourself, not my business, and I certainly didn't appreciate to come back in front of accomplished fact with the channel.
Stevie said:
Then, you don't have to be a wizard to understand that using challenge packs on the last day of the event is quite frankly a common strategy, because there is less time for enemies to attack and take away your prestige.
As far as I could see this is a rather poor strategy, good luck catching up during the last hours with the people who've been using the extra challenge points every single day of the event.
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted March 13, 2017 08:46 AM |
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It creates less forums on the traffics thats true, but i'm with stevie and think thays a good thing.
Short question? Ingame chat
Strategy article,monster information? Forums
Talking about bugs and *ahem* exploits, strategies you don't want your opponents to read? Discord.
The multi platform makes communication more easy if you ask me... especially since i mistly use my phone discord is more convenient but i'm also fond of the forums here
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hayenne
Known Hero
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posted March 13, 2017 09:05 AM |
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Edited by hayenne at 22:18, 13 Mar 2017.
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Galaad said:
hayenne said:
*4 dots Faerie Dragon*
Want.
Where did you get it, summon or battle tower?
Neither, it was a battle drop from the latest event. I power farmed Hyena and faerie dragons appeared in battles often enough to finally make a lucky roll for me.
Unfortunately, no such luck with the Hyena itself - I did not even get a 3* one 
But hey, I also got a 3* Visier, so it's some sort of consolation prize I guess.
Galaad said:
I take issue with it because it drives the interaction away from the forums, if the HC guild conversations don't take place in HC I see something is wrong.
I don't mean to pry into your conversation though I wish it was more private (lest people think we are a guild of drama queens which we are not), but honestly speaking, I do not see Discord stealing any attention from the forums. The lion's share of this thread consists of useful information, which people both from the inside and outside can come back to, while Discord is more or less chit chat or bantering which conveys no sense to litter the forum thread with.
Cheers
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted March 13, 2017 10:05 PM |
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Request for Galaad: Can this be copied to the OP? Or shall I begin a new topic?
Guild rules
HC Kreegans has been up now for a while now (party!) and I like most of you guys and want to thank you for helping in making Creature Quest an enjoyable experience.
However some people (me included) would also like to see an improvement in performance, which is during the events. Participating and getting a nice score not only gives you extra goodies, but also the other guild members for their hard earned work.
This is where it gets controversial, I don't like to kick people but I think it's unfair for the people that do spend a lot of time while there are other people 'leeching'. Don't get me wrong, you are no bad person for hardly participating, I can understand if you are short on time and have a busy schedule.
With average play I think it's reasonable to obtain a 5000 prestige at the end of the event from now on. We understand you might save your points for the end of the event to make a crushing victory or some people have already said they are unable to play at certain days, even with those conditions 5000 points should be possible.
Please note there can be a dozen of legit arguments for you to not be able to reach that in a week like: School exams, Extra busy at work, holidays etc....Just tell us what hinders you and at when you expect things to be back on track again. Do you expect it will be a longer period of time? We might ask you to leave but to come back when you have time again (we will always keep a special spot for fellow Heroes Community players).
If you fail to obtain the requested results a officer or leader might try to get in contact with you and decide the consequences based on your excuse or situation.
Please feel free to respond with feedback, agreements or even improvements of this method. Note that this isn't official yet from the guild untill HaltWhoGoesThere, Galaad and Stevie agreed (who are kinda like the backbone in the guild).
Rules will start to apply from 15/03/2017
Thanks for reading, and hopefully we will retain a great and enjoyable guild! 
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hayenne
Known Hero
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posted March 13, 2017 10:48 PM |
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As a person who tailed the guild prestige list once, I think 5000 is a fair requirement and manageable to achieve by everyone (maybe more challenging to lower levels, but I think we already imposed a level limit to remedy this).
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vancho1
Adventuring Hero
Learning
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posted March 13, 2017 10:50 PM |
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With regards to this new rule, I don't know if I will be able to accomplish such a feat by this deadline - as a student my time to play is limited, and I have still not reached the level of creature quality to be able to retain prestige (my defense rate is still abysmally low). As such a more "casual" player I feel bad for not being able to contribute to the guild's rank, but this rule will most certainly lead to me being kicked out before long.
As such, I will voluntarily leave the HC Kreegans. Thank you for tolerating my presence for this time. I may rejoin at some point in the future, once I can hold my own.
Best of luck! I
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted March 13, 2017 11:03 PM |
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vancho1 said:
With regards to this new rule, I don't know if I will be able to accomplish such a feat by this deadline - as a student my time to play is limited, and I have still not reached the level of creature quality to be able to retain prestige (my defense rate is still abysmally low). As such a more "casual" player I feel bad for not being able to contribute to the guild's rank, but this rule will most certainly lead to me being kicked out before long.
As such, I will voluntarily leave the HC Kreegans. Thank you for tolerating my presence for this time. I may rejoin at some point in the future, once I can hold my own.
Best of luck! I
It will be at the end of the next event, so no need to rush! I feel your pain as a fellow student although i gues i have the 'luck' i travel in public transport a lot
Edit: I see you already left, by no means was that my goal and i'm sorry to see it happened especially so close for the end of event....I wish you best of luck and feel free to hop by or claim your spot if you feel confident!
Best of luck to you too
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 13, 2017 11:07 PM |
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I believe a minimum of 5000 prestige is only reasonable. I would agree with such a rule. It also keeps things impersonal, people will know exactly why they'd get kicked and hopefully they'll remain on friendly terms.
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The Young Traveler
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vancho1
Adventuring Hero
Learning
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posted March 14, 2017 12:13 AM |
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With all due respect, the rule felt directed at me specifically as the only sub level 100 member (having joined before the current level minimum), especially since I have been mentioned before with regards to the guild's rank being lower than some would like. If rank is your concern, the rule is reasonable.
As I said, I'll take steps to rejoin (if there is room) once I meet the current requirements. I've never been a very active member here anyway (haven't really been too passionate about Heroes for a few years due to the state of the franchise) so there is really no reason apart from sentimentality to reserve me my spot if you are trying to be a top ranked guild.
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted March 14, 2017 03:23 AM |
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Jolly
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 14, 2017 05:26 AM |
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Edited by Jolly at 05:48, 14 Mar 2017.
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Galaad said:
I am currently keeping the door shut to motivated players with high prestige pending because of this policy, but I don't think Vancho or Jolly for instance can keep on rolling their thumbs without posting here nor playing much in the challenges, benefiting from the rewards everybody but them worked for. OTOH it's not all about prestige, AxeTerio for instance doesn't score very high but he is active here and made a great contribution to the Compendium so I am very unlikely to kick him out.
Hi guys,
I apologize for not being able to keep up with the forum, but I've been far too busy unfortunately to be able to do many things (such as video games) that I enjoy. The only reason I am actually still relatively active in the game, is because I do want to come back to it once I have more time.
I have always ended weeks with 5k+ (often 7k+ prestige) and enjoy this guild, so hopefully the fact that I am currently too busy to participate on the forums doesn't mean I'll be getting the boot. Likely, this will also change one I finish a course in mid April!
Cheers,
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TruthCQ
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 14, 2017 06:16 AM |
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Guys.. the five thousand rule is great.. i just hope the warning comes beforehand.. im not sure if ill be able to make 5k this week.. my wife is about to give birth anytime w/in the week to our baby girl.. will post pics soon.. next week ill try to make it..
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted March 14, 2017 07:18 AM |
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TruthCQ said:
Guys.. the five thousand rule is great.. i just hope the warning comes beforehand.. im not sure if ill be able to make 5k this week.. my wife is about to give birth anytime w/in the week to our baby girl.. will post pics soon.. next week ill try to make it..
Congratulations in advance and that is only reaaonable. Once again the current event is not what we judge upon it's understandable it's a short amount of time. Next event we'll start pushing a bit but like said before, if you got your reasons let is know
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Lunatic
Hired Hero
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posted March 14, 2017 08:21 AM |
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Hey everybody
On behalf of what I read and heard via discord I must say I like most of you and find both of your engangement ingame and your community outgame very good and motivating.
I must say in fair advance too I do not completely agree with the last postings from you Galaad (who is the guild boss,that's why i say it) both in terms of sight and behavior since I moderated myself a lot in the past,but i am quite a newcomer here... if that is no problem for you it will be none for me.
So I want to officially apply for a membership of the guild HC Kreegans starting tomorrow.
If you need more Information about me feel free to ask.
Please talk over if needed and let me know sometimes before Arena ends if you would like to have me
With best regards and looking forward to your answer
Luna
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AxeTerio
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 14, 2017 11:49 AM |
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Evening all,
I can't quote multiple posts as efficiently as others so I'm gonna just run down some thoughts and responses:
Hay, I get it definitely. Fully awakened creatures and anything 3* and up seem great for Dungeon defense.
Galaad, yeah like Manga I go Right to Left. But y'know cuz of this I didn't notice I also have a combo for Siren to increase her healing when needed by using Draconic Templar right before her. Funny how it was right in front of me the whole time but I didn't see it's use until later.
My Aunt is doing better and I got her out of the bedroom and walking around the house today, thx.
Mark, so the idea would be to end an event with that much prestige (5k) or higher?
Overall I think your layout is well written and I reread it a few times to try and catch all the nuances. Personally, utilizing the Revenge tab, Challenge Orb packs, creative use of playtimes and remembering that I'm not the only one with lacking Dungeon defense, I can see this being accomplished.
Vancho, Yeah by reading everything Mark wrote clearly, the Prestige min is for future events. With that in mind, you seem to be very astute with a great grasp of guild needs and only you know your schedule / abilities. Rak has similar time limitations as you but as you mentioned a better roster to attain and maintain prestige points. Leaving early was logical and helpful overall and I considered it myself.
Keep in mind this doesn't exclude your presence from the forums but I understand from your post why you've refrained. We'd want all to still visit, speak and theory craft regardless of current or previous guild affiliations.
Also, while the proposed rule wasn't directed at you exclusively it logically was because of your (and others) available playtimes showing the guild what's needed for proper progress. Think about it, almost every girl dates a man taller than herself. It's not a reflection on us personally but simply for the sake of being short.
Yasmiel, he's not too bad looking, thx for that. Any more info on his stats/abilities?
Jolly, one of the main points is that through one avenue or the other our presence is felt and shown on a productive basis. From what you've said OFC the ending Prestige should work still
Truth, Gz man! Wife gonna let you give baby a game inspired name?
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markmasters
Famous Hero
Dragon of justice
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posted March 14, 2017 11:57 AM |
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markmasters said:
TruthCQ said:
Guys.. the five thousand rule is great.. i just hope the warning comes beforehand.. im not sure if ill be able to make 5k this week.. my wife is about to give birth anytime w/in the week to our baby girl.. will post pics soon.. next week ill try to make it..
Congratulations in advance and that is only reasonable. Once again the current event is not what we judge upon it's understandable it's a short amount of time. Next event we'll start pushing a bit but like said before, if you got your reasons let us know
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 14, 2017 01:04 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 15:11, 14 Mar 2017.
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Ok guys I got it, that is (imo) not really going with the initial philosophy of this guild but if I'm the only one taking issue I will respect your opinions and end it there. I believe the subject is closed and we can keep on going, sorry for the outburst.
Marks of course I will add your text to the OP shortly and thanks for your initiative, we still need to hear from Raenus though.
Lunatic said:
So I want to officially apply for a membership of the guild HC Kreegans starting tomorrow.
If you need more Information about me feel free to ask.
Please talk over if needed and let me know sometimes before Arena ends if you would like to have me
With Vancho leaving there is currently a free spot, feel free to send the request.
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