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fiorin
fiorin


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posted June 11, 2018 04:21 AM

Quickly update to show the sunday improvements


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planetavril
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posted June 11, 2018 07:41 AM
Edited by planetavril at 07:44, 11 Jun 2018.

fiorin said:
Quickly update to show the sunday improvements




as Fred said you are making giant strides,
I will never get to your level

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Winston
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posted June 12, 2018 01:14 AM

fiorin said:
Macron1 said:
Pavel said:
Afanc looks better than peryton and cockotice


Nonsense.
Just create your own town and make all these creatures for it.
You seem to oppose every unit author made. Just make your own.



Macron1, thanks for teh defense. I admit, im really glad about all feedback, all ideas. Im doin the town, cause i like very much all the mod idea.

The Afanc is not a bad ideia, i searched about him and i thought could be, maybe an alternate creature. The images showed look so much a Hydra with one head. The Afanc description denotes something like a beaver-crocodile.

I like the Cockatrice idea. And Peryton. Both are famous mythological creatures, wich fits on heroes theme (elves, dragons, fairies)

PandaTar said:
fiorin said:

lvl7 --- Living Stones >> Living Ruins
For now, im using a Smite skin for the lvl7. I want a unique too, but just on future. Both are a slow, heavy creature. Stones have resistance from earth, ruins have immunity.  I wanted the upgraded one as a resilient creature with full regeneration and 250+ life. Its that too strong? Too useless? I thought too first about earthquake chance, or cast on battle beginning, but not so usefull off castle fight and maybe too strong on it.
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What u guys think about that ? Brainstorm me buddies


Yum Kaax

You could use that name, if you are willing to make a nature Stone-like being. Although I would point out you could make a Spiritual one as well, shapeshifter.


The problem i see with Yum Kaax its from Maya Pantheon. Too much different than another creatures.

Thats my idea for the future model Lvl7


I like the look of this. Just make sure to make it look massive like Titans.

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posted June 12, 2018 01:44 AM

fiorin said:
Quickly update to show the sunday improvements




very cool work.

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fiorin
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posted June 16, 2018 02:28 AM bonus applied by Maurice on 18 Jun 2018.



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53lm
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posted June 16, 2018 08:31 AM
Edited by 53lm at 08:32, 16 Jun 2018.

fred79 said:
fiorin said:
Quickly update to show the sunday improvements




very cool work.





Tundra?

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fiorin
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posted June 16, 2018 01:04 PM

53lm said:
fred79 said:
fiorin said:
Quickly update to show the sunday improvements


very cool work.





Tundra?


Something like that. I need learn more about texture painting, but for now gonna do the remaining buildings and creatures animations.

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fiorin
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posted June 18, 2018 05:44 PM bonus applied by Maurice on 18 Jun 2018.



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NimoStar
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posted June 18, 2018 06:02 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 18:03, 18 Jun 2018.

3D made everything worse. Go back to 2d rips and leave 3d untextured to H4




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fiorin
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posted June 18, 2018 06:30 PM

NimoStar said:
3D made everything worse. Go back to 2d rips and leave 3d untextured to H4


I understand your critics, but the problem with the ripped old version is the limitations about angles or improvements.

Im admit the 3d version is not better than real mountains or real buildings.. but i can make better with time. The creatures, since the beginning is not use wow models.


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posted June 18, 2018 07:15 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 19:16, 18 Jun 2018.

Well, if you want to use the town as an oppotunity to practice 3D modelling, rendering and texturing, I guess there is npothing I can do to stop you.

But take into account most H3 town graphics were handmade, not rendered (except Conflux)

In fact there were 3D models made first, but then they were painted with  2D art.

This is a 3D rendered version of Necropolis for example. Looks good to me but obviously it is not the final style:

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posted June 18, 2018 07:20 PM

I guess all h3 townscreens were rendered but for public purposes only few screens with models (Rampart) and old beta works were released.
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posted June 18, 2018 07:28 PM

@ nimo: dude, tf? Fiorin is new to 3d modeling, and he's doing a GREAT job considering how new he is to it. Hell, when i started out with my 2d work, i sucked. Fiorin is leagues ahead of where i was when i first started modding, and i was only doing 2d, whereas fiorin is doing 3d.

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acidchalk
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posted June 18, 2018 07:36 PM

Once he gets the 3d to where he wants it to be i'm sure he'll figure out how to do the filters to change it up in no time.

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NimoStar
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posted June 18, 2018 07:56 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 19:58, 18 Jun 2018.

Quote:
@ nimo: dude, tf? Fiorin is new to 3d modeling, and he's doing a GREAT job considering how new he is to it. Hell, when i started out with my 2d work, i sucked. Fiorin is leagues ahead of where i was when i first started modding, and i was only doing 2d, whereas fiorin is doing 3d.


Yopu misinterpret me. I am not saying his 3D is necessarily bad, he's only learning even and it would be low to say that.


What I am saying is about art design, 3D designs tend to not fit within H3. Thus why I show how 3D was deliberately overruled with sprites, filters, etc.

Actually someone with a keen eye can see which buildings are kept as 3d model renders. For example, Stronghold grail, the Banner. See it in context and you will notice it doesn't fit the rest.

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posted June 18, 2018 08:42 PM

Once he's done with the textures, all he should need to do is, run the townscreen work through a pixellation filter. That should accomplish the final homm3 texture, while still retaining his original work. I don't see that part as being complicated, especially not worth ditching his ongoing work to pick up where he left off with 2d; not in the least. He's progressing admirably as he is now, imo.

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53lm
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posted June 18, 2018 09:43 PM


ha ha



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fiorin
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posted June 19, 2018 01:56 AM

NimoStar said:
Quote:
@ nimo: dude, tf? Fiorin is new to 3d modeling, and he's doing a GREAT job considering how new he is to it. Hell, when i started out with my 2d work, i sucked. Fiorin is leagues ahead of where i was when i first started modding, and i was only doing 2d, whereas fiorin is doing 3d.


Yopu misinterpret me. I am not saying his 3D is necessarily bad, he's only learning even and it would be low to say that.

What I am saying is about art design, 3D designs tend to not fit within H3. Thus why I show how 3D was deliberately overruled with sprites, filters, etc.

Actually someone with a keen eye can see which buildings are kept as 3d model renders. For example, Stronghold grail, the Banner. See it in context and you will notice it doesn't fit the rest.


I have a critical sense about my job and im admit about a 'budget' 3d version. Im not happy about that version either. But i insist on 3d buildings because its more flexible to make town and map dwellings.

For now, im focused on a working version and interesting new creatures on lineup. Not a great model ? Not great animations? Not great graphics? I see. But i work daily on that and i like the town idea.

Btw, Thank all guys for the feedback. Thanks for critics and suggestions

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fiorin
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posted June 19, 2018 01:59 AM bonus applied by Maurice on 20 Jun 2018.
Edited by fiorin at 08:54, 27 Jun 2018.

53lm said:
ha ha

I just changed the lvl to a fatter version while im not done with the new model hehe

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NimoStar said:
Well, if you want to use the town as an oppotunity to practice 3D modelling, rendering and texturing, I guess there is npothing I can do to stop you.

But take into account most H3 town graphics were handmade, not rendered (except Conflux)

In fact there were 3D models made first, but then they were painted with  2D art.

This is a 3D rendered version of Necropolis for example. Looks good to me but obviously it is not the final style:


Im gonna think about that. Maybe then generate the buildings with 3d render to achieve the positions i want, then prepare the town screen on PS

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Spartak said:
Maybe better in a sitting position.
or

Buddy, i tried make the sitting position, but the model doesnt worked on deformation. Im gonna redo the bones before do all animations, but i dont think gonna work

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First animations test on Sorceress


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Pavel
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posted June 27, 2018 09:11 AM

i speak you what this creatures cool!

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