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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Spy poisoning: Russian diplomats expelled across US and Europe
Thread: Spy poisoning: Russian diplomats expelled across US and Europe This thread is 8 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 · «PREV
Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted April 20, 2018 01:40 PM

OPCW policy is not to make conclusions, only to gather evidence. I don't see how their modus operandi is so relevant.

But then there is the one who got attacked. Based on the facts one can make an educated guess who was behind the attack. Yes still a guess, but it surely was not the garden gnomes behind the attack now were they?

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It is highly unlikely that any former Soviet republic (other than Russia) pursued an offensive chemical weapons programme after independence. It is unlikely that Novichoks could be made and deployed by non-state actors


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during the 2000s, Russia commenced a programme to test means of delivering chemical warfare agents and to train personnel from special units in the use of these weapons. This programme subsequently included investigation of ways of delivering nerve agents, including by application to door handles. Within the last decade, Russia has produced and stockpiled small quantities of novichoks under the same programme


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Sergei Skripal was a former Russian military intelligence (GRU) officer, convicted of espionage in 2004. We have information indicating Russian intelligence service interest in the Skripals, dating back at least as far as 2013


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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted April 20, 2018 02:04 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 14:05, 20 Apr 2018.

Thing is, it was reported in the news pretty much worldwide that the OPCW's report confirmed that "Russia produced it" which turns to be a complete bull**** (yet you don't see another wave in the news stating "sorry, they didn't say that after all"). The rest is just the UK government's official position which still does not have a single evidence in its favour. Given that everyone, including the accusers, have admitted/confirmed that this chemical can be manufactured by pretty much everyone with a decent lab, such a "guess" does not hold any water.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 20, 2018 03:07 PM
Edited by Galaad at 15:09, 20 Apr 2018.

Skripal was freed by Russia in 2010 and has been living in the UK eversince. I don't understand why the Russians would suddenly feel the urge to eliminate him for which reason (how and why a threat) and at such timing (eight years later, right before elections, few weeks before soccer world cup).

As I already said the whole procedure was illegal to begin with, when a state is being accused of such crimes, it has ten days to reply, not 24hrs! That's the law, and laws aren't written for dogs.

International sanctions without evidence can lead to nothing good (in parallel see Syria), also, it's not like we haven't been lied to in the past.
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Minion
Minion


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posted April 20, 2018 03:20 PM
Edited by Minion at 15:41, 20 Apr 2018.

Russia did not free Skripal. It was an exchange of 10 Russian "sleepers" arrested in America to Russia in return for four alleged double agents. Not quite the same thing.


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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
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posted April 20, 2018 03:44 PM
Edited by Galaad at 15:47, 20 Apr 2018.

Yes that's true. Still, doesn't give more sense to Russia's supposed actions nor justify any of the sanctions taken.
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