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fred79
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posted March 27, 2018 07:48 PM

Minion said:
That is because the investigation is still very much going on.


you sure about that? are you really sure? because every link i can find says otherwise.

btw, just WHY are you attempting to derail this thread with snow like this? are you really attempting some bullsnow in another thread because you can't get to me in the mass shooting thread? because that's some sorry-ass snow if you are.

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Minion
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posted March 27, 2018 07:54 PM

Muller probe is the real investigation, what the heck does the corrupt republican congressional "investigation" have to do with anything. It is just politics, geez, you should know better!

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posted March 27, 2018 07:58 PM

dude, stop snowing with me. seriously. you're attacking me over something that isn't even the point of the subject matter. give it a rest, and get a hobby or something. i know you can't fulfill your quota for today since the other thread is locked, but that's not my problem. it's yours.

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posted March 27, 2018 08:04 PM

If you don't know the full picture and DON'T want to be responded to, don't use explosive rhetoric like this:

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and still, you have people claiming otherwise; either because they're willfully ignorant and enjoy taking bait(or having their reality fed to them with a spoon by their oppressors); or because they'd just rather lie and feel good about themselves or their comfort-bubble reality, than face the simple truth.


But anyhow, back to the topic.

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posted March 27, 2018 08:12 PM
Edited by fred79 at 20:12, 27 Mar 2018.

dude, even if the trump/russia collusion is still ongoing(which you haven't posted any proof to, btw), my point still stands. or are you saying the masses AREN'T manipulated by their controllers?

nobody in their right mind would deny that those in power do what they can to sway the hearts and minds of the mass public. as is seen here, in the topic at hand.

either way, your response is an attack. you pinpointed something that made no difference to pinpoint, and you used that to aggravate me. at least MY argument(and that post you quoted) was ON-TOPIC.

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Minion
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posted March 27, 2018 08:54 PM

Well I responded harshly because I thought you blatantly lied, but to your benefit it was just that you apparently thought the congressional inquiry was the real deal. The Mueller probe (which is the one that can get your president impeached if found guilty) is the legitimate one, and it is frequently on the news so I thought you were aware of it.

I do agree with you that the ones in power manipulate the masses, in more ways than one. No disagreement there.
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posted March 27, 2018 08:55 PM

It's already established that the Russian meddling in the US elections was on both sides. For Trump and for Hillary. Or I should say, against Trump and against Hillary. It was a troll, nothing more.

Other troll examples from the past :
- Russia took one of their submarine and went in US borders to take pictures of the US coast about 10 years ago. What can be gained from it? Well, the US could scramble and waste millions or billions in increasing their submarine detection and defense system, or if not, just a troll!
- An American diplomat went to Israel 15 or so years ago. Was given a hotel room to stay. He went to work downtown, somewhere. When he came back, his coke and sandwich had exchanged places in his fridge. Why did Israel do that? Hard to tell. Just a troll with some hidden meaning between Israel and the US.

Point being, sometimes, countries just trolls each other. Like 2 neighbors in a feud. You know the other guy isn't gonna change and is always gonna mess with you, so why not fling some poo over his fence once in a while? Russia hired a couple of trolls to mess with Hillary and Trump supporters just because they could, for the troll of it, nothing more. Payback for the Olympic ban and what's not.

As for the Russian investigation, I have my theory as well. I mean, we all have a theory, since all we're given are vague words of "Trump Russia collusion" or extremely specific reports that doesn't really mean anything alone.

Everyone seems to think they're rebels, nowadays. The older folk, they don't need to hide things like racism or being a sycophant or what's not. The younger folk though, it's like they all want to be rebellious. Being rebellious is a good feeling. I'm rebellious because I want Hillary to fight the Republicans, which are the establishment. I'm rebellious because I vote for Trump because he's gonna drain the swamp of all corruption and the establishment won't have it's way anymore.

Bla bla bla. With so many rebels, it's a wonder the establishment still gets stuff done! Some people must have it wrong lol.

If Trump ever proves to be a thorn that needs to be deposed, the establishment will suddenly reveal the Russian investigation to be real and get him impeached or similar. But if Trump does his job like the establishment wants him to, then the Russian collusion investigation will make Trump look like a rebel fighting the establishment once again and help him get reelected.

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posted March 27, 2018 09:07 PM

Minion said:
Well I responded harshly because I thought you blatantly lied


yeah, because i'm known to be a liar when it comes to serious topics or discussions, and not just for my lie detector thread. right.

as for the investigation you seem so concerned about for inexplicable reasons, that's not on-par with the subject matter. i only used it to point out something that actually pertains to the subject matter.

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posted March 27, 2018 09:09 PM

Kayna said:
When he came back, his coke and sandwich had exchanged places in his fridge. Why did Israel do that? Hard to tell.


lol, win.

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posted March 27, 2018 09:13 PM
Edited by Kayna at 21:15, 27 Mar 2018.

I tried to dig for that article but couldn't find it. It was specifically stated in it that chamber maids and such weren't to go in his room. There was absolutely no difference ( according to the American diplomat ) in his room when he came back, except for that. My guess is that it was some kind of security related hidden message.

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posted March 27, 2018 10:04 PM

In the next episode: while Europe is staging its teatro, New Zealand has a real problem. And to think that Moscow's master spy is right under their nose, posing as a humble forum admin...

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posted March 27, 2018 10:06 PM

lol, he's onto you, val.

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posted March 28, 2018 10:37 AM

Kayna said:
My guess is that it was some kind of security related hidden message.


My guess? Undermine the sense of security. Apparently, someone could get access to his fridge (and thereby his food and drink) without anyone noticing it. While harmless in that particular case, it does mean it's possible to meddle with the food and drink and make it "less harmless" - or anything else within that person's immediate area, which was considered safe.

Basically, it's saying, "we have our eyes on you".
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posted March 30, 2018 08:10 AM

60 US diplomats expelled from Russia. The same number which the US expelled previously. The latter say that this isn't fair, oh dear.

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posted March 30, 2018 10:29 AM
Edited by fred79 at 10:30, 30 Mar 2018.

rich, grown "adult" leaders of nations in action:


"you're a poopyhead!"


"nuh-uh! you're a poopyhead!"


"fine! i'm not playing with you anymore!"


"i don't care! i'm keeping all the toys!"


"teacher! teacher! they're not sharing the toys!"



...

*blasts off into outer space*

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posted April 02, 2018 08:18 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 08:26, 02 Apr 2018.

Spies Like Us (1985)  with Dan Aykroyd and Chevy Chase is still the best spy movie.  

UK should invade Ireland in response to Russia's actions. It's what I would do. A clear message needs to be delivered.
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posted April 04, 2018 02:07 PM

Guess I'll share Nafeez Ahmed's article on the issue...
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posted April 06, 2018 11:46 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 23:55, 06 Apr 2018.

Zenofex said:
That whole thing is a typical witch hunt. Even if the Russians did it - which would be one of the most normal things in the world of intelligence for literally every country on this planet, especially if the guy was a threat to their national security - the entire story is purposefully overblown to justify pointing fingers and formalizing some anti-Russian measures. There are no hard evidences, yet the EU + the US as preparing a verdict - that alone is enough to tell what is the real purpose. Of course the public will never know who's the real perpetrator, unless there is some massive information leak from somewhere, but that's not really important in this case.


As usual, a sad attempt to hide your veiled patriotism towards a country that has one of the lowest rates of life satisfaction on Earth. "Russia is bad but everybody else is just as bad". Nope. Wrong. England is an enormously better place, hence the defections from people that dont want to work for an oligarchy of fraticidal sociopaths. #BetterThanYouInEveryWay

And Moscow can expel as many diplomats from its 3rd world country as it wants. Europe/US can afford it far more than they can, and its pretty obvious that besides the dictatorship of Belarus, the entire Eastern bloc is moving away from its former imperialist ruler. Russia is a loser, literally.
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posted April 07, 2018 12:09 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 00:11, 07 Apr 2018.


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posted April 07, 2018 12:22 AM

blizzardboy said:
As usual, a sad attempt to hide your veiled patriotism towards a country that has one of the lowest rates of life satisfaction on Earth.


Except that life rate satisfaction has nothing to do with Putin, but is only a burden from past regimes. Which Putin spectacularly improved, about 80% of Russians admit their life condition are much better under Putin.
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