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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM3: The Succession Wars Mod This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · «PREV / NEXT»
planetavril
planetavril


Known Hero
posted January 03, 2019 12:05 PM
Edited by planetavril at 12:13, 03 Jan 2019.

revolut1oN said:
planetavril said:
what are the coordinates of the new game loadgame buttons etc.?


Does that mean another half-baked VCMI frankenstein incoming? xD


the idea was that, but you have to rewrite all the cities, the creatures, the artifacts in json files, you can not do it by inserting the pac files as in wog or in the legend of the red dragon

so nothing to do at least for now

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planetavril
planetavril


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posted January 03, 2019 12:08 PM

Salamandre said:
planetavril said:
studying the code of H2Sw_town_ look.era and H2_towns.era is possible by making the necessary changes to add city to era instead of replacing the originals



Correct me if wrong but SW doesn't add any town - I checked there are 8 of them vs 9 in vanilla. It only replaces factions.


I thought they had added cities

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Galaad
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posted January 03, 2019 12:22 PM

planetavril said:
I thought they had added cities


It certainly feels that way if you think you're playing HII.
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Promising
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posted January 03, 2019 12:26 PM

Modder should play game which want to mod
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 03, 2019 12:56 PM

It helps, yeah
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mhorohello
mhorohello


Hired Hero
posted January 03, 2019 01:05 PM

Thanks for the mod. I enjoyed the nostalgia and all that. Great work!


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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 03, 2019 03:18 PM

DUDE. the desert town is so cool! i can't wait to play this. great work, man!

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olorin
olorin


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posted January 03, 2019 06:47 PM

Oh my... every single year of waiting was worth it.



I wanna thank Orzie & co for such an amazing accomplishment. You've just made the perfect Heroes all by yourself. I love you guys

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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted January 03, 2019 09:05 PM

RerryR said:
I packed myself a Mod Pack with all Quick Battle Options for H3TSW:

-Resolve Battle instantly
-Replay Battle Plugin
-Chose Quick Combat/play normally before combat

so far it works without problems. Such things could be considered in the next version.


How? Sorry if it's a noob question.

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RerryR
RerryR


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posted January 03, 2019 10:08 PM
Edited by RerryR at 22:56, 03 Jan 2019.

pellish said:
RerryR said:
I packed myself a Mod Pack with all Quick Battle Options for H3TSW:

-Resolve Battle instantly
-Replay Battle Plugin
-Chose Quick Combat/play normally before combat

so far it works without problems. Such things could be considered in the next version.


How? Sorry if it's a noob question.


Well it's not a noob question. You can find it here:

Dropbox

Activate with Mod Manager which you can find in the Game folder.
So far it works but is still a testing version which i made for me.  

Edit: try now

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pellish
pellish


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posted January 03, 2019 10:45 PM
Edited by pellish at 23:04, 03 Jan 2019.

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

EDIT: I can't access the file.

2nd edit: Thanks, it worked.

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DonCanardo
DonCanardo


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posted January 04, 2019 11:53 AM
Edited by DonCanardo at 12:03, 04 Jan 2019.

Truly amazing work guys. Thank you so much for making this dream come true. I hope this mod is going to have the popularity it deserves.

I just wanted to report a few bugs i had after playing 4 games.
Before that I have a couple questions about the design :

What did motivate your choice of having non stackable recruits on dwellings on the map ? In heroes 2 the recruits on maps dwellings  stacks every week. I always prefered this mechanic because it is less enjoyable having a hero doing the bus every week to collect all the recruits.

Another interesting choice you made is the native terrain attribution. I play random maps so I think you still start on your native land right ?
I can see why you gave wasteland to wizard although i prefered snow but I really don't think sand matches warlock (would matches barbarian better IMO). What is the reason behind these choices ?

Another thing i noticed on random maps is that there are rarely snowlands and i never saw lavalands.

That been said, here are the bugs i encountered so far that you are probably already aware of:
- random knights units popping in the opponent army
- Random castle can be heretic
- heretic heroes are available in the CPU tavern (never saw one in mine)
- Apart from heretic units i once saw an air elemental on the battle field that is not suppose to be out yet
- I had "access violation" when entering a town or engaging monsters on the map that make the game crashes. The bug persists if I try to do the same action the same day but usually go away if i wait a day
- The black tower building picture is replace by the magic well
- sometimes some pictures in the building section are out of their frame.

that's all so far. I can provide screenshots. I hope that help.
I did the installation on a clean heroes 3 and put the tweak at 0 in HD mod by the way.

Again, thank you so much for your hard work, I haven't been that excited about a video game in years.



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orzie
orzie


Responsible
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Reinventing the Steel
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posted January 04, 2019 07:24 PM
Edited by orzie at 19:25, 04 Jan 2019.

Thanks for the feedback.

Quote:
What did motivate your choice of having non stackable recruits on dwellings on the map ? In heroes 2 the recruits on maps dwellings  stacks every week. I always prefered this mechanic because it is less enjoyable having a hero doing the bus every week to collect all the recruits.
It was not a choice. In order to make something different from Heroes 3, you should implement it. Not all of the things are easily implementable or floating on the surface.

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Another interesting choice you made is the native terrain attribution. I play random maps so I think you still start on your native land right ?
I can see why you gave wasteland to wizard although i prefered snow but I really don't think sand matches warlock (would matches barbarian better IMO). What is the reason behind these choices ?
Sand is currently used as underground terrain as well, not mentioning 35% of lava there. Someone must be underground, especially when you don't have a working Heretic faction yet.
If you use swamp terrain for Warlock, it will be just the same as for the Witch.

In future, there will be a new design of underground objects implemented.

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Another thing i noticed on random maps is that there are rarely snowlands and i never saw lavalands.
These things are template-dependent.

Quote:
- heretic heroes are available in the CPU tavern (never saw one in mine)
They get them from Jails. Yes, we know about the Heretic. But, another 6-year wait for the community is not a good idea.

Quote:
- Apart from heretic units i once saw an air elemental on the battle field that is not suppose to be out yet
That was a restricted creature. Will fix.

Quote:
- I had "access violation" when entering a town or engaging monsters on the map that make the game crashes. The bug persists if I try to do the same action the same day but usually go away if i wait a day
These are 2 different bugs. To remove crashes with monsters, delete this file:
<Heroes 3>/Mods/The Succession Wars/EraPlugins/h3sw_diplomacy.era
The Diplomacy skill effect will be reverted back to H3 mechanics, Serena the Sorceress will have an inactive specialty.


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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted January 04, 2019 07:44 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:46, 04 Jan 2019.

There is wog option to stack recruits on map, didn't work with SW?
Also I re-report the map editor "bug" I get, hero can't be given more than one spell.

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orzie
orzie


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
HC SUPPORTER
posted January 04, 2019 07:56 PM

Well, I don't know. Perhaps we should discuss the problem. What spells have you tried?

We prefer staying away from WoG options because most of our achievements are made via ERA plugins. I made a note, however - never researched the sphere of WoG scripts that much, keeping in mind only some interface adjustments (for later versions of H3SW).

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Popcioslav
Popcioslav


Hired Hero
The best H4 unit
posted January 04, 2019 08:18 PM

I think the access crash is related to Treasure building. After building it the game crashes on the beginning of the week, at least it did on my side when playing the Vikings map

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orzie
orzie


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Reinventing the Steel
HC SUPPORTER
posted January 04, 2019 08:25 PM

Popcioslav said:
I think the access crash is related to Treasure building. After building it the game crashes on the beginning of the week, at least it did on my side when playing the Vikings map

Thanks, will investigate.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted January 04, 2019 08:46 PM

orzie said:
What spells have you tried?


Giving a new spell disables the previous.




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orzie
orzie


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
HC SUPPORTER
posted January 04, 2019 09:09 PM

That is because you opened Beltway, which is a "Heroes 2 flavor map" (technically, the former Armageddon's Blade format). So, it's the original game mechanics.

In order to implement the desired changes, you need to use a newer format (well, there is still former WoG, which has maximal functionality).

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TristanIJB
TristanIJB


Hired Hero
posted January 04, 2019 10:29 PM

Great mod!

But I have just built Capitol in the Knight Castle and now I can't access it :-/ It completely changed the model into the HIII Capitol model and when I try to click it to build other structures nothing happens (the Castle building is being clicked instead).
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