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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM3: The Succession Wars Mod This thread is 20 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 · «PREV / NEXT»
Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted February 13, 2023 06:53 AM

orzie said:
There will be no "Inferno" as well as there is no "Castle" or "Rampart" already in the mod.




It would be called "Heretic", right?
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portus
portus


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posted February 13, 2023 10:05 AM

Well we’re talking Heroes here, so….. “Herotic” I guess?

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
posted February 13, 2023 01:30 PM
Edited by orzie at 13:32, 13 Feb 2023.

Drakon-Deus said:
orzie said:
There will be no "Inferno" as well as there is no "Castle" or "Rampart" already in the mod.




It would be called "Heretic", right?

Not necessarily so. I am not very enthusiastic about this option, but we will have to look what's better for the general concept of the game.
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luk3Z
luk3Z


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posted February 14, 2023 09:44 PM

orzie said:
There will be no "Inferno" as well as there is no "Castle" or "Rampart" already in the mod.

No, we don't consider porting the mod to VCMI at this moment.


Hopefully some stuff was partly ported to VCMI long time ago:
https://heroes3wog.net/abode-vcmi-town/
https://heroes3wog.net/necropolis-town-v1-01-vcmi-mod/
https://heroes3wog.net/warlock-town-v1-0-vcmi/

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orzie
orzie


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posted March 09, 2023 10:11 AM
Edited by orzie at 10:14, 09 Mar 2023.

Some drafts of the new character candidates for the next H3SW update.
Can you guess who belongs to which class?



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shev441
shev441


Adventuring Hero
posted March 25, 2023 05:20 PM

nice to hear that next update will be released.
New heroes looks great. Most of them seem to be warlock/witch.
Are they going to replace current heroes from existing towns?  Or they will be in some upcoming town - maybe some dark elf inspired?

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orzie
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posted March 27, 2023 08:32 PM

We have a lot of hopeless fillers in the most recent release. These (and many more others) will turn the tide.
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LordInsane
LordInsane


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posted March 28, 2023 05:34 PM

shev441 said:
nice to hear that next update will be released.
New heroes looks great. Most of them seem to be warlock/witch.
Are they going to replace current heroes from existing towns?  Or they will be in some upcoming town - maybe some dark elf inspired?

Can't really see a dark elf town fitting in in the H3SW concept, to be honest. There's not enough to make an entire folklore-inspired town around them (even if you count the 'myrkálfar' themselves as appropriate enough to fit in the H2 style, what do you do for the other six creatures the town needs?), and of course while dark elves do exist in the canon, their society is over on another continent (and is the second coolest dark elf society in video games).

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orzie
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posted March 29, 2023 01:21 PM

Yes, it's enough to have them that way.
Though, we don't have dark elves even in the hero rosters. That grey-skinned elf is the Vori elf, the "high elf" equivalent of the Might & Magic universe.
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Kojin_01
Kojin_01

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posted March 29, 2023 10:30 PM

Mod Request

Hey everyone!

First of all, I apologize for posting an irrelevant request in this thread, I couldn't figure out how to create a new one and my searches for old threads didn't turn up anything...

Second, this is for unmodded Complete Edition. I'm a long time player but for some reason I've never ventured into mod territory in this game. Besides WoG, which I played for a few months, I've only played the vanilla versions and the Complete Edition. I would like to stick to them, but would love to play the game with a custom hero. I haven't hex edited anything in 10-12 years and after some research, I think it'd be too great a task for me to understand the codes and experiment with them. Would anyone be so kind to make me a custom hero or help me find exactly what to change? I don't want anything fancy, just a custom pic, name, bio, specialty and skills. I'll sacrifice Alamar if a pre-made hero is needed. I'm planning to install a 'hire any hero' mod, so I'd be able to play thorugh the campaigns using my custom hero. If anyone is willing, I'll give all the details I'd like him to have.

Thank you in advance to anyone who's willing to spend some time helping me!

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weilan
weilan


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posted June 04, 2023 09:05 AM

How is this mod coming along? Has it been completely converted? I remember last time I tried it it was years ago and there were a lot of HoMM3 assets not converted to HoMM2 and not all factions were changed either.

I haven't played HoMM2 a lot, maybe 1-2 hours in my life and the reason is that I can't get adjusted to the balance, I can play HoMM3 just fine, but in HoMM2 I seem to get defeated by everything very easily, so how is the balance? Like HoMM2, like HoMM3 or a mixture of both?

I'm really looking forward to experience HoMM2 in a more modern way, when I tried the real HoMM2, it just felt so dated and limited in every way, especially how many artifacts each hero can carry.

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lea
lea


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posted June 07, 2023 09:36 AM
Edited by lea at 10:24, 07 Jun 2023.

weilan said:
How is this mod coming along? Has it been completely converted? ...
would you care to check for yourself?
version 0.8.2 is here:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/h3sw/downloads/h3sw-v082-installer

from what I remember (from trying version 0.8.1) it has at least 6 fully converted town types (7 according to release trailer for version 0.8.2)
I did not encounter any assets from HoMM3 - it is essentially HoMM3 game mechanics with HoMM2 aesthetics
regarding balance it feels much closer to HoMM3

many WoG/Era mods reportedly can be made to work with it (despite no official support for it from orzie)
HDmod works with it as well

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shev441
shev441


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posted August 08, 2023 03:04 PM

any new news? last post seemed promising in new content coming soon.

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luk3Z
luk3Z


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posted August 15, 2023 07:04 PM

Good idea will be porting SW also on VCMI.

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
posted August 15, 2023 07:36 PM

shev441 said:
any new news? last post seemed promising in new content coming soon.

We've done a great deal of graphics - more than we probably dreamt of before. However, what we need for the next release is programming, and it's not gonna move until November I suppose.

luk3Z said:
Good idea will be porting SW also on VCMI.

Not gonna happen anytime soon. It does not make sense to port an incomplete work to another platform without a goal of completing it there, not to mention little sense in dealing with VCMI in general.
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shev441
shev441


Adventuring Hero
posted August 26, 2023 08:35 PM

sounds great, could you show us some new material/graphics that will likely be in next update?

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shev441
shev441


Adventuring Hero
posted August 26, 2023 08:43 PM

sounds great, could you show us some new material/graphics that will likely be in next update?

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2023 10:05 AM
Edited by orzie at 10:06, 27 Sep 2023.

Regarding updates, we have finally set up our official Discord.
There, we will be able to provide information much easier

https://discord.gg/wZe4Pg7Ba6
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AlexSpl
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posted October 05, 2023 11:07 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 23:10, 05 Oct 2023.

Well, slightly belated thoughts on integrity. Don't make features of HoMM3 unshakable just because some limitations of the engine. I understand that you cannot eliminate wait for it will require rewriting the whole AI part. But, you can still make flying units to behave like their HoMM2 collegues. Also you can rewrite spell system as well as secondary skill system, so that they correspond to original spells/skills system. Don't make exceptions just because something is "impossible" on the HoMM3 engine. All is possible with hands from the right place. And remember that the final result, as the name of the projects implies, should be HoMM 2.4 rather than HoMM 2.6, if you know what I mean

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orzie
orzie


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posted October 14, 2023 07:50 PM
Edited by orzie at 20:01, 14 Oct 2023.

While some things you say are true, we are neither H3 or H2 - I'd say, it's more like an alternative sequel slash remake. H2 was a nice game, but it was not perfect, especially in terms of magic and secondary skills.

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Also you can rewrite spell system as well as secondary skill system, so that they correspond to original spells/skills system.

We cannot.

While Wait removal is dubious because it seems the majority still likes it, our magic 'system' is definitely not a choice - it is because we don't have enough steam to remake it as of now. We need a programmer's help for that, as well as many other H2 (or brand new, like some new spells or some redesigned secondary skill mechanics) features, including the campaign mechanics which are now on hold and which are seriously needed for the next release.

We did have a demonstration video with some of the features partially working, even. See 0:42 and 0:55 for instance.

Regarding flyers, I raised a question in the team's Discord on a close topic (regulating the battlefield starting points), but I didn't see enthusiasm. The problem with H3 mechanics here is that creature speed defines creature battle order, while in H2 things were more flexible. Again, we need a programmer to do something about that.


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