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Gandalf196
Disgraceful
Supreme Hero
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posted August 27, 2019 05:22 PM |
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The only thing resembling 2008's praised reboot is the name itself 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 27, 2019 11:44 PM |
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So looking at those images, I can say that it looks very much like Heroes 7 aesthetically, which is a bad omen to me. The first thing I that comes to mind when I see that is not fantasy, but medieval dark age. It's dispelling all my immersion, because you have this excellent setting for fairy-tale-like fantasy and it's getting ruined. Too bad, I don't feel confident about it.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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gemeaux333
Known Hero
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posted February 21, 2020 06:54 PM |
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First devs diary :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCpJ6eOBpo&feature=youtu.be
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gemeaux333
Known Hero
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posted February 21, 2020 06:59 PM |
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Dev diary 1 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCpJ6eOBpo&feature=youtu.be
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted February 21, 2020 11:37 PM |
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I cannot say I am overly impressed by what I've seen.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted February 22, 2020 11:43 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 11:48, 22 Feb 2020.
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OmegaDestroyer said:
I cannot say I am overly impressed by what I've seen.
Why? I think it's an interesting take on the franchise: graphically it's ok, setting-wise a bit more mature, and there aren't actually that many games which piece together heavy exploration and rpg elements with armies and TBS battles.
The only thing that might be missing here is the more "flimsy, fairy tale fantasy" element of past games, but I have a feeling they didn't show us everything and we can expect something like Witcher 3 Blood and Wines fable story arc.
I'm positive about it, definately something to be looking forward to.
Please I think the game is in the right hands 
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted February 22, 2020 06:42 PM |
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Edited by artu at 18:45, 22 Feb 2020.
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Elvin said:
Also simpler and more dated. Otherwise ofc H3 is a more complete product. As for modding, there's H5.5 that has managed to produce some spectacular things..
A huge portion of the fan base will disagree that H3 is “more dated” in the sense you mean. The board game style 2D map works better and since it works better it’s not dated compared to H5 map lay out. On the other hand, the 3D map and graphics are no longer the new shiny thing to impress anyone. So where as H3 is like a timeless b&w movie with awesome cinematography, H5 is like a technicolor movie from the early 50’s with bad cinematography and messy directing.
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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gemeaux333
Known Hero
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posted February 22, 2020 07:48 PM |
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HOMM 6 is the best (after HOMM 3) with HOMM 4, it is only hated by a noisy niche part of the community and way more appreciated by most players since Shades of Darkness have been release as it is now perfectly stable (asside from a recurring bug that cause the conflux and Uplay to not be synchonized and prevent to benefit of the 5th dynasty trait (in the best case, prevent to fullfill the uplay achivements if not yet forcing you to do a request for all those not unlocked when they should have had)
Actually, HOMM 6 was at least one step in the right direction ! Just don't know what happened then...
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 05, 2020 10:18 PM |
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I'm gonna tell you all: THIS IS (censored). As a true fan of King's Bounty series, who has played the games for over 20 times (and well over 700 hours), this is pure crap (excuse my language, please)(Also, this is made by another team which consists of "enthusiast young adults" and big fattie dev leader). WHY?? Let's make a list (gonna make it short, since you probably are not people who know all about King's Bounty):
1. They changed the game into an RPG! Why!? To please the idiots people who never were fans of games like King's Bounty in the first place! The devs said the game will be only 1/3 battles, which is an heresy as great as ashan itself! They also said the game will be centered around story! For us, the fans, it's just the same thing as if Ubi changed HoMM to be a story-centered game that is based around politics and economy!
2. Unit cap will be 12... Do I have to say something else? Now you can't have armies of 5000 Sprites with doubled dmg because of artifacts (making their dmg reasonable). They also said you HAVE to change army composition EVERY TIME you progress into another kingdom (dwarf, elf, etc.), because our idiotic peasants, knights and mages can't compare with half-naked dwarf berserkers! This is, in comparison, as if you switched the HoMM growth system with a leadership system, where your army size is limited by leadership based on level!
3. The camera view is now 3rd person, not top-view! Just imagine the heresy if Ubi made this change for HoMM! It's just the same!
4. No more TRUE looting. Ofc, you probably don't know what I mean. In the old games, you could "fool" (more like histerically running away from ) creature stacks to loot what they guard. Now you only search through barrels and inside people's houses.
5. They just wanted to rip-off The Witcher. They can't say it though, since they're russian and it would look bad because they're creating a game that is supposed to be original (they said it. The part about original).
6. The UI. It's ugly, in comparison with the old one, which was a masterpiece. Now, it looks just like any other UI for console games. And the controls are also created for console. Bleah.
7. The game lost its feeling. Simply. Just like HoMM7. At least HoMM6 had a certain feel. Now it's just a dusty medieval world without too much fairy-tale, as King's Bounty was supposed to be.
I'm done for now. Conclusion: King's Bounty is an heresy which has to be exterminated by Paladins in a holy crusade!
Also, this is unofficial thread on official forum (they didn't even bother making a forum section for KB2, LOL): http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=230357
I am Spaceknight, btw.
Edit: Removed/drew a line over too offensive or vulgar stuff. I was just a little too angry at that time.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 05, 2020 10:22 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
The only thing resembling 2008's praised reboot is the name itself
Someone in their right mind. Stevie and OmegaDestroyer too.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 05, 2020 11:37 PM |
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Cool story bro. Maybe try it first?
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 05, 2020 11:41 PM |
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blob2 said:
Cool story bro. Maybe try it first?
What do you mean? Have you ever been a true fan of KB? They butchered it. Worse than Ubi.
As a side note, they did showcase dragon artworks (and other creatures' artwork at Gamescom). It was on a russian blog. The dragon at least was cool tho.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted March 06, 2020 09:23 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 09:24, 06 Mar 2020.
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FirePaladin said:
What do you mean? Have you ever been a true fan of KB? They butchered it. Worse than Ubi.
No, I was never a TRUE fan of KB. But it's the same thing happening to Baldurs Gate 3 - true fans hatin' cus it's not "true" Baldurs Gate while not even touching the game yet.
I also liked the whimsical remake of Kings Bounty, was a very good game. But it had so many expansion packs that I don't know if they would even be able to think of anything new. It's a complete game, you can always go back to it. It's now time to try something different.
KB remake was always advertised as a sort of RPG/Tbs hybrid, they now want to build on the formula while adding a more mature setting. Plus we've only seen like a handful of the games snippets.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 06, 2020 11:47 AM |
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blob2 said:
FirePaladin said:
What do you mean? Have you ever been a true fan of KB? They butchered it. Worse than Ubi.
No, I was never a TRUE fan of KB. But it's the same thing happening to Baldurs Gate 3 - true fans hatin' cus it's not "true" Baldurs Gate while not even touching the game yet.
I also liked the whimsical remake of Kings Bounty, was a very good game. But it had so many expansion packs that I don't know if they would even be able to think of anything new. It's a complete game, you can always go back to it. It's now time to try something different.
KB remake was always advertised as a sort of RPG/Tbs hybrid, they now want to build on the formula while adding a more mature setting. Plus we've only seen like a handful of the games snippets.
The thing remains, they could have always done it a different way, without touching the core basics (or at least not altering them THAT much). I don't remember HoMM4 being praised too much for what it did to the series (even though it's a good game itself, but not such a good HoMM).
There were only 2 expansion packs (i big, 1 minor) and 1 game which included several more campaigns.
But the problem is, not that KB2 in itself would be totally bad (creatures themselves are ok, at least until now), but that it deviated so much from the original, you're just basically giving the fans another game instead of KB (let's not forget the basic of basics: their troop limit is 12. Wow. The mage class becomes even more obsolete). And even though they didn't reveal all game snippets, the most fundamental things, that changed, are still there (and they already revealed what they are), and nothing changes them, even if you can marry dragons and fairies.
Also, let's not forget the majority of people who played KB; they are just casual players who played the game for its charm and its simple mechanics, nice battles and silly story. Now 1C basically got rid of them. And it's not like I don't know such people.
Anyway, the other two classes are: a woman with Cleopatra-like hair, who looks like Amelie, and a guy with a relatively long, grey beard and a two-handed longsword. You can see this at the end of dev diary 1.
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 07, 2020 03:11 PM |
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This game looks fun enough to try out for sure, but it's not giving off KB vibes. The way creatures are being handled is my biggest beef with the game. The whole reason I play King's Bounty is their huge creature bank and the way they all level up with random bonuses.
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 07, 2020 03:29 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
This game looks fun enough to try out for sure, but it's not giving off KB vibes. The way creatures are being handled is my biggest beef with the game. The whole reason I play King's Bounty is their huge creature bank and the way they all level up with random bonuses.
Well, that's the main reason I complained (the vibe thing), together with the fact that it became totally another game. And yes, that pool of creatures is amazing (I'm currently doing a The Legend no-loss impossible run with Paladin and an exclusively dragon army + auxiliary unit. However, I started it months ago, but I do continue it several times a week).
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted March 12, 2020 05:10 PM |
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gemeaux333
Known Hero
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posted April 04, 2020 08:02 PM |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aki19o0iHW8
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gemeaux333
Known Hero
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posted April 04, 2020 08:04 PM |
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FirePaladin
Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
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posted April 04, 2020 08:11 PM |
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I copied my last comment on official King's Bounty forum, with more info than the old info available on russian forums which was re-released as something called Dev Diary 2 (the info in it was over 6 months old, anyone interested in what KB2 is knew it already):
"Also, Dev Diary 2 was released!
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1135300
This is when you can see someone repair a golem like those in HoMM7: https://youtu.be/Aki19o0iHW8?t=402
Edit: I found a dragon troop in this video about KB2: https://youtu.be/7JxNWELTKaI?t=815
The dragon is here: https://youtu.be/7JxNWELTKaI?t=838
It seems to be the same as the one I was talking before. Battledogs (clearer image) are also shown, together with the wolves, bears, stonemen, skeletons, dual-wielding black-haired protagonist (does that flag something?), thieves, more skeletons, Resurrection spell, Lightning Bolt, rocs (brown eagles, like those in HoMM3), a crossbow (skeleton wields it).
Edit 2: Also, is anyone here? Steam is relatively active, to be honest, but the official forum is all dormant.
Edit 3: ..."
This is it, and the link to my comment: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=230357&page=5
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