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fred79
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posted May 09, 2021 01:58 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 02:06, 09 May 2021.
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maybe i am, maybe i'm not. shirley.
speaking of shirley; i want to remind you of your post in this very thread:
Corribus said:
Can you articulate why a rule requiring a substance be injected into you is different from a rule requiring a substance be placed against your skin?
surely you can articulate your reasoning behind posting this frightenening lack of awareness?
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Gnomes2169
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posted May 09, 2021 02:23 AM |
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Population naturally balances at a certain level of access/ effectiveness of contraceptives and birth control. Hell, most of Europe and the USA only sees positive population growth because of immigration.
But sure, we need a chip to reprogram people’s brains to stop them from reproducing. Oh, and to also damage their fertility, so we can artificially reduce the population further. And we also need to develop secretly evil technology to cull ~66-75% (target herd immunity levels most governments are pushing for) of the global population (which is what that conspiracy theory that the RNA COVID shots kill their recipients in 5 years logically implies.) That won’t completely unmake every power structure currently in the world, in completely unpredictable ways. That’s clearly what a shadowy coalition bent on eliminating variables to assume more and more control would want. That makes sense.
Your ideas get ridiculed instead of being engaged in good faith because they are ridiculous. These three-step conspiracy theories are childish. Step 1) Bill Gates is obscenely rich and has his hands in medicine (objectively true.) Step 2) Obscenely rich people are bad (I mean... yeah pretty much) Step 3) Bill gates is using medicine to hurt people because he’s bad (flying off the rail, if anything he’s restricting access to medicine by artificially limiting production in order to drive up prices through scarcity, which is bad, but it makes sense because that fuels his greed. It isn’t micro-chipping and secret forced sterilization, which would do nothing but hurt his long-term profits.)
I’m glad I don’t drink alcohol because my brain is rotting enough as it is, but buddha help me is it tempting some days...
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Corribus
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posted May 09, 2021 02:45 AM |
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I dont know, fred, maybe because I'm a scientist who believes in science and doesnt believe in every bat snow conspiracy theory I see posted on the internet.
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Skeggy
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posted May 09, 2021 08:28 AM |
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If it's about science then the scientific community should tell people to use the maximum daily amount of vitamin d3; 20 000 IU's, to be exact, daily. Every human being can produce that much when exposed to UV-B radiation in the equatorial region between 10 AM and 2 PM.
The beneficial effects of d3 on the lungs are great indeed. Just google d3 and tuberculosis scientific evidence. It is quite puzzling why the scientific community does not suggest supplementation with d3 with 20 000 IU's daily. It doesn't have to be all once, it can be 5000 IU's every hour until 20 000 is reached.
I suppose that practice is frowned upon by the scientific community because of what exactly? The reason is false and treacherous at best. If there is clear scientific evidence that d3 is extremely efficient regarding tuberculosis, why does the scientific community prolong suffering by not issuing public proclamation regarding d3 and covid19?
Why scientific community does not do experiments with 20 000 IU's of d3 daily basis?
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fred79
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posted May 09, 2021 08:34 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 08:35, 09 May 2021.
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@ the person i was talking to:
so you believe the two to be comparable?
1. getting dressed,
2. and having a unified system of government/corporate entities/pharmaceutical companies/mass media push to inject a substance into your body for a threat that has only the tiniest fraction of even harming you, let alone killing you? an injection that they legally insulated themselves from repercussions beforehand?
you and logic seem to have parted ways.
or maybe, you can better explain what you mean, exactly?
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artu
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posted May 09, 2021 12:22 PM |
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Edited by artu at 12:24, 09 May 2021.
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Just out of curiousity fred,
1- Do you think people should also refrain from having their usual vaccines as well? You know, the ones we and all of our parents and grandparents had as kids during the last century.
2- Since this is a pandemic and it’s not just one country’s government applying precautions or getting people vaccinated, you must conclude that they are all acting in sync and are part of the same control mechanism then? And not one single doctor is out of this system, so that they wouldnt go to a lab, decode this “population control thingy” hidden in the vaccines and expose it to the press with evidence? But what am I thinking, every media platform must be in on it, too.
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Salamandre
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posted May 09, 2021 12:26 PM |
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They control me already by placing a Starbucks down my street.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted May 09, 2021 12:30 PM |
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Dont you have a sleeping disorder Sal? Doesnt coffee make it worse?
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Neraus
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posted May 09, 2021 12:47 PM |
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There is a more plausible and sensible argument for skepticism towards mass vaccination in this context.
I both laugh and get saddened that it gets drowned out by microchip conspiracies and whatnot, we don't have the technology for that to be even possible, let alone feasible. Only shady thing they could do is a sort of mark of the beast by making your skin fluorescent with tattoos, but of all the no-vax nurses, no one even reported anything of the sort, so there you have it.
A media conspiracy isn't too far-fetched tho, Italy's public television is literally controlled by the majority parties, so I wouldn't discount it happening, it's easy to align journalists and whatnot.
Now, there's an easy way to get out of having to involve weird theories, just consider that governments panicked, they ordered an excess of vaccine doses that far exceed double the population, before discovering that deaths and hospitalizations involve mostly a specific category, and that said vaccines allegedly don't block the spread (I still need proof of that myself tho, I'm skeptical that it allows enough replication to let you develop enough viral charge to spread), so a total population coverage wasn't necessary and in certain cases could be useless.
But you know, they spent billions, so if public opinion discovered it was a wasted expense, how would it react?
You could easily just say that, and you could be justified to wait it out a bit to see if you really need the vaccine or not, instead of just outright saying no because evil Bill Gates wants to make you human cattle.
That said, I don't blame those who are scared of Bill Gates getting involved, he promoted some nutty ideas himself, so of course imagination would run wild if the vaccine is funded by the man who wanted to make chemtrails real to stop climate change. 
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blob2
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posted May 09, 2021 04:48 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 16:50, 09 May 2021.
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If that's what it takes for the ease of mind I'll gladly take it.
Not to mention back when I was a kid we had a lot of vaccines applied to us. Aside from some edge cases where a vaccinated child developed some unwanted symptoms, do you even think someone went out of their way to extensivly research the after-effects of said vaccines? I highly doubt it, the authority ordered so the society complied...
At the end of the day what are you afraid of? Death? Control? Whatever... we are all going down the drain either way.
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fred79
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posted May 09, 2021 05:26 PM |
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this doesn't effect only us, but future generations. every bit of control they ADD, that always INCREASES, effects not only OUR generation. stop being so goddamn shortsighted; that's peasant thinking. they continually WIN, because they're NOT shortsighted.
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Salamandre
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posted May 09, 2021 05:48 PM |
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How is vaccine a control over population? You never take medication?
Personally I hope the majority around gets vaccinated because the lock-down starts to hurt a lot. So far France is third world country in vaccination race, my turn will be around September probably.
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fred79
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posted May 09, 2021 05:52 PM |
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this is why i get so angry. it's like i'm talking to walls.
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Corribus
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posted May 09, 2021 05:54 PM |
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Maybe you're not articulating your points very well, fred. All I hear is rage.
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fred79
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posted May 09, 2021 06:00 PM |
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maybe that's because literally nothing i and people like me say or point out, EVER sinks in with your kind. are you all incapable of putting yourselves in someone else's shoes? are you capable AT ALL of changing your line of thinking? of being empathetic in any way, shape, or form?
i can do that. why can't any of you? that's why you lack understanding.
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Galaad
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posted May 09, 2021 06:02 PM |
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You clearly can't fred, and sorry to say it shows in every single one of your responses.
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fred79
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posted May 09, 2021 06:05 PM |
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you ARE trying to infuriate me. you clearly need to step down as a mod. until then, go. away. now.
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Galaad
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posted May 09, 2021 06:07 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 18:11, 09 May 2021.
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Yes, the two active mods need to step down because they don't agree with you. That's perfectly unbiased opinion, pure fact indeed.
Also, please do take the time to give a proper reply to Sal here
Salamandre said:
How is vaccine a control over population?
I am very open and interested in hearing what you have to say about that, be sure to be in front of a good keyboard.
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Corribus
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posted May 09, 2021 06:19 PM |
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Fred, being honest here, most the time I have no idea what you're going on about. You know how when you turn a stereo up too loud all it sounds like is static? If you turned down the rage volume a hair, you might find your fidelity turned up and people would stop covering their ears when you tried to say something.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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blob2
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posted May 09, 2021 08:04 PM |
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fred79 said:
this doesn't effect only us, but future generations. every bit of control they ADD, that always INCREASES, effects not only OUR generation. stop being so goddamn shortsighted; that's peasant thinking. they continually WIN, because they're NOT shortsighted.
Why should I care for future populations? We're doomed either way...
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