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Galaad
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posted August 28, 2021 09:49 PM |
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fred79 said:
i've already stated my stance on it before, but you don't pay attention.
I must have missed it then, can you link it please ?
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fred79
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posted August 28, 2021 10:01 PM |
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i'm not holding your snowing hand anymore, guy. just admit that you don't have an answer, because it's not part of your programming. your kind are incapable of thinking for yourselves, and your repeated utter refusal to answer a question on your own PROVES that.
i posed that question to every single one of you, and from what i've read, not ONE of you have answered it. then YOU keep running from it, while telling ME to answer it, when in that very same post, i stated clearly and concisely that i wasn't going to DO that, because it is up to YA'LL to be able to put 2 and 2 together.
if YOU(or any of you) don't answer it, then i will KNOW you can't PUT 2 and 2 together. and everyone else reading this back and forth, will know as well.
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JollyJoker
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posted August 28, 2021 10:10 PM |
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fred79 said:
... i stated clearly and concisely ...
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Galaad
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posted August 28, 2021 10:49 PM |
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Fred, I ask you a question, and you reply by asking me to reply for you instead. No one can ever understand you if you don't explain yourself. I can't put two and two together, help me please.
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fred79
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posted August 29, 2021 04:36 AM |
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For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.
i'm not going to explain this any further. what i quoted here from their own website, contains all the information you need to know. now, apply reasoning. you will understand why i say what i say, when you apply reasoning to those two simple sentences. if you cannot do this, then you're NEVER going to see ANYTHING other than the globalist narrative being "fact", for you.
there. i posted it again. and i'll wait for your answers.
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zippergoob
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posted August 29, 2021 05:22 AM |
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Why would anyone quote inflated CDC statistics as any kind of argument; Covid has been a for-profit endeavor since the inception and Chinese new years parties.
Testing is straight profit, covid deaths are straight profit for hospitals. We live in a capitalistic world; Think of the money spent to get a small add to your eyes.
I think the big issue here is that your trying to make a counter argument with math-reason, IE " They say its 1+3=-1 and they are the experts! " and he is there holding the numbers in his hands trying to convince you.
Lol I just read this entire thread
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posted August 29, 2021 06:37 AM |
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JollyJoker
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posted August 29, 2021 08:34 AM |
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The bullsh!t never stops.
Capitalism 101: if there is a demand for something, profit will be made. If there is a new demand for something HIGH profit will be made by the first ones supplying it.
So the question to ask would be - is anything ARTIFICIAL in the demand created (which would be, masks, tests, vaccines, dividing panels, gloves, and so on)? The answer would be double-pronged: 1) does the virus justifiably need all this (and is it even real???)? 2) Is the virus a product designed by humans to boost some political or ecomic interest?
Answer to 1 - who cares? Or to answer with another question - what DO we actually justifiably need in our respective societes? Social media? Advertisements on youtuve every couple of seconds? A million TV channels and streaming services? Bigger and more cars? Boob jobs? Antibiotics for each little scratch you get or cough you utter? (And is it even real? Snow, who cares? Masks are cool, says superhero culture - think about the fun: two years ago, if a car with two people in it had stopped in front of a bank, the people donning masks before entering it, people had called the cops)
Answer to 2 - one way or another it IS a product designed by humans, that is, by the ecological changes our species brings about. Did it come out of a lab? I'd answer again - who cares? Thing happened, period. But between you and me - I doubt it. Why? Because it's an RNA-based virus, that's why. RNA-based virusses have too high a mutation rate to be controllable or even predictable. With the current one you can see (virus) evolution in full swing; there is also a high chance that this virus will combine with others to build completely new ones, if there is "contact".
So - it's simply WAY too dangerous (you'd want to have much more STABLE virusses, that is DNA-based ones, that don't mutate fast) - it can too easily spiral completely out of control.
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posted August 29, 2021 10:52 AM |
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zippergoob said:
Why would anyone quote inflated CDC statistics as any kind of argument; Covid has been a for-profit endeavor since the inception and Chinese new years parties.
Testing is straight profit, covid deaths are straight profit for hospitals. We live in a capitalistic world; Think of the money spent to get a small add to your eyes.
I think the big issue here is that your trying to make a counter argument with math-reason, IE " They say its 1+3=-1 and they are the experts! " and he is there holding the numbers in his hands trying to convince you.
Lol I just read this entire thread
And which part of this dialogue is "1+3 = -1" exactly?
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Fred : Covid does not kill that much
Galaad : Shows excess mortality graph
Fred : That graph is bogus, and contradicts cdc + who
Galaad : Shows about the same graph taken from cdc website
Fred : These two statements invalidate the graph
Galaad : How?
Fred : I'm not going to tell you.
The statements dont inflate the death rate. As it has already been said, cause of death may not be only covid while covid is still a factor to be estimated. People sometimes get a disease, it turns them weak, another disease steps in, and you die of combined causes. JJ even gave his mother as a real example. So, no, such statement isnt enough to conclude all is fake to make some bucks. Why would they put it in, if it was anyway.
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Galaad
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posted August 29, 2021 04:08 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 16:13, 29 Aug 2021.
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fred79 said:
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For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death.
i'm not going to explain this any further. what i quoted here from their own website, contains all the information you need to know. now, apply reasoning. you will understand why i say what i say, when you apply reasoning to those two simple sentences. if you cannot do this, then you're NEVER going to see ANYTHING other than the globalist narrative being "fact", for you.
there. i posted it again. and i'll wait for your answers.
Literally running in circle...
I cannot understand why you say what you say, so I've been asking you what your reasoning is, and you are doing your very best to not reply. Can you please reply so we can go further in the discussion? Because this is getting really counter-productive.
Edit: Fixed link.
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fred79
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posted August 29, 2021 04:50 PM |
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wtf part of this do you not get:
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i'm not going to explain this any further. what i quoted here from their own website, contains all the information you need to know. now, apply reasoning. you will understand why i say what i say, when you apply reasoning to those two simple sentences. if you cannot do this, then you're NEVER going to see ANYTHING other than the globalist narrative being "fact", for you.
this was posted BEFORE your reply. BEFORE. wtf part of "i'm not going to explain this any further" is CONFUSING you? htf do you figure you can DEMAND me to explain something i JUST TOLD YOU to explain YOURSELF?
don't bother me anymore, if you're not going to make ANY effort on YOUR part to think FOR YOURSELF. stop WASTING my time.
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Galaad
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posted August 29, 2021 06:22 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 18:29, 29 Aug 2021.
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Ok Fred, you do realize that, you pick two sentences from a website and say it invalidates the data shown, from the same website you apparently trust, and you refuse to give an explanation.
You also completely disregarded JJ's reaction to your post, and kept repeating -ironically like a programmed robot- that you're "not going to explain this any further".
My reasoning, when I see there is an excess mortality worldwide, just at the same time there is Covid happening, is that people die from Covid.
I also don't forget neo-liberal capitalistic world killed economy to protect people, because of Covid.
Sorry for wasting your time.
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zippergoob
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posted August 29, 2021 07:21 PM |
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So it seems you like to argue over insignificant subtleties instead of the " Big picture "
I hate to say this, but 1+3= never happened, it.... it was... a metaphor!
CDC is corrupt, trying to push a narrative, and thusly, how can the data be trusted? Their data is too flawed. No real data reports can be trusted to be accurate.
Tell me this;
Where are the bodies? There are no bodies. Look at 1910 flu, bodies all over, coffins stacked sky high. Nothing like that, no reporting.
Wouldn't the sensationalist media be shoving the piles of rotten bodies in your face 24/7? There are none.
This is all a thought exercise. More wealth has been generated during this pandemic than the last decade. More is coming.
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fred79
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posted August 29, 2021 07:32 PM |
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i didn't pick that website because i trusted it, i picked it because ya'll trust it. and it argues AGAINST their own bs covid argument. you can't SEE that, because it's not part of what they TOLD you. all you ever hear about is covid, covid, covid; but none of what shows it, for the most part, WASN'T covid killing people. they INFLATED the death numbers, using the reasoning of those two sentences; and DRASTICALLY so.
we have family who we were told died from "covid". and yet, if you've ever been to one of my family reunions, you would see a cluster of fatasses who gave NO snows about their own health for DECADES.
but some magic flu comes along and THAT'S what kills them? NOT the fact they were fatasses who didn't take care of themselves and are all prone to cancer anyway? case in point: i have an aunt who started getting headaches AFTER she got "vaccinated". and what caused it? a brain tumor. they tell her that she won't survive the year. and to add to that, she is currently UNDER HOME QUARANTINE for testing POSITIVE for covid AFTER she got the shot. and because of THAT, she cannot go to her radiation treatments.
now, which has killed MORE people? covid? or CANCER???
i hold people accountable for their bs; unlike you people. you don't even think, you people just take whatever they're spewing into your ears as FACT, and NEVER QUESTION ANYTHING THEY SAY or even apply REASONING to what they tell you.
and because of that, the whole western world gets to suffer because YOU take their gross expansion of power over the populace as something BENIGN because of the deaths of the weak-ass people who DON'T take care of THEMSELVES. and they deliberately put more SERIOUS illnesses on the back burner, because they want you to get a shot that DOESN'T work as intended, while the manufacturers of said shots get paid ASSLOADS of cash and are legally IMMUNE to repercussions from THEIR product, that hasn't come CLOSE to their trial end date, yet.
you people are a plague all on your own.
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posted August 29, 2021 08:16 PM |
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So, fred, when you die from covid, you actually didn't die from covid, but from overdosing Monster, sleep deprivation and the long-term consequences of having been in the army (plus, everything we don't know about you, like, smoking, drinking, illegal substance abuse, malnutrition, having been in dangerous countries with dangerous plagues and virusses, eating too much sugar and/or fat, and whatnot)?
How foolish can it get?
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fred79
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posted August 29, 2021 08:37 PM |
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covid doesn't kill 99% of the people who even HAVE symptoms. how ridiculous can YA'LL get?
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JollyJoker
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posted August 29, 2021 09:54 PM |
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fred79
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posted August 29, 2021 09:59 PM |
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your words mean nothing. they aren't backed by fact. you might as well say, "fred's a government agent". you'd be just as wrong.
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zippergoob
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posted August 29, 2021 10:11 PM |
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Lol he is using the really pathetic technique to make baseless accusations about your possible history in an attempt to somehow influence interpretations about anything else you say.
Jesus H Christ! I am declaring the ascertainment wherein people are utilizing classic Marxist playbook techniques but ineffectively outside of a public speaking space.
There is only one solution, nuke the site from orbit, its the only way to be sure.
 *Plot twist*
Fred *IS* a government agent. Who else would use " Y'all " ?
Anyway, the real issue here is that this is not actually a vaccine and is an exploratory dip into the world of forcing human cells to print inflammatory spike protiens. They changed the definition of virus from a de-natured or weakened real life viral example into " Induces an immune response " so by spitting in your face im really giving you a vaccine now.
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posted August 29, 2021 10:23 PM |
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Paranoid AND incoherent AND a double account.
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